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Offline aussepom

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #345 on: October 24, 2007, 05:59:49 AM »
Hi keithTurtle
The process you are looking into is in use for spraying molten metals to build up shafts etc.

The coil wrapped around the acrylic tube, they use fine copper tube similar to that used in your freezer compartment, they pump cooling water though the centre because of the heat created by the high current used.
This is a form of DC induction, where the two magnetic field meet in the centre this is the area where a plasma field can be formed.
Down the centre into the plasma field area, they then under pressure they pump air with the metal dust which ever they want to use, the air with the metal dust under pressure through a narrow tube, this is centred in the middle of the acrylic tube,  heats up, the intense magnetic field in the centre reacts and in the heated air and metal dust forming a plasma field, this melts the meal dust, then is forced out at the end of the tube though a narrow opening onto the material that is to be built up.
Now it is possible, not tried to my knowledge; that if fine misted water instead of the metal dust was used maybe it could split into HOH.
This is another thing that I wanted to try but you need a heavy low voltage power supply, which I have.
The OZ Injector will use a plasma field and should give a large supply of HOH but it will be like a large bunson burner or small rocket engine flame. I do have plans to 'quench' the output so it does not 'fire up', this will give gas. The 'burner' will be use in a gas turbine engine. Water will then replace Nat gas or kerosene of JET fuel. But that is my pet project.  I will look into this HOPE cell project.
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #345 on: October 24, 2007, 05:59:49 AM »

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #346 on: October 24, 2007, 06:19:56 AM »
Hi keithTurtle
Follow up on the HOPE
  Just looked at the HOPE cell yes it seems to use the principal that I have just described, but it seems that they are using the 'touch' principal, or possibly a high voltage arc to start off the plasma field, once formed you only need to keep the power on the induction coil.
 WHY do these guys rush off to patent these things, the OZ Injector basics have already been placed on the web to stop the any one from patenting it, I have not put out the fine art of it yet that makes it work, but I will eventually.
aussepom

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #347 on: October 24, 2007, 09:24:21 AM »
Oh, good!  It looks like there be hope for this thing.  I wanna git the rough prototype together and post it.   

The large bunsen is what I'm after, raw thermal potential; power input is to be minimal.

A little further thought changed the square solid center rod to a 1/2" OD tube, into which can be  inserted magnets (got 'em, neos), a small coil to generate harmonic freqs, hysteresis, or sumthin' to kick the process into warp drive...

<grin>

Gotta run fer now, thanks fer your input!

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #347 on: October 24, 2007, 09:24:21 AM »
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2007, 05:44:11 AM »
hey
        whats the go guys don't you like me any more ???
   I can not get into the builders forum to access the plasma arc that I started????
  comming up with error 403 denighing access even on my old emails ???
 as the MIB been at the site???
 aussepom

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #349 on: December 01, 2007, 07:14:19 AM »
Unfortunately we have to run an emergency maintenance
Thank you
IronHead
« Last Edit: December 01, 2007, 04:53:12 PM by IronHead »

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #350 on: December 22, 2007, 07:27:21 AM »
Howdy fellers.
I am really interested in more of your guys experiences. I am fixin to build me a plasma generator and am learning about this stuff fast. Thanks for teaching me what you have posted so far.
A few questions
would tungsten carbide last longer?
anybody try 50K volts? would a car coil work?
Are all those other people trying this accounting for HHO production and its energy potenial in their output?
WIth carbon rods does the gas not burn in plasma or produce that other gas, magnegas etc?
Thanks I really appreciate it. I know I need to learn alot about electronics, chemistry and all that but I want to try too and maybe come up with some novel idea that might help.

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #351 on: December 23, 2007, 04:07:39 AM »
Welcome to the quest, pgflyjoe;

The basic elements of plasma are four:  Rod, charged negative; Field, charged pos, stainless preferred; solution, predominately natural water but with Na2 H CO3, KOH or K2CO3 as additives in small qty to increase conductivity; and a containment vessel capable of transporting away the heated solution to a heat exchanger. [ After the basics, there is a plethora of variables; you ain't ready fer that, and neither am I]

The power applied must be, initially, DC.  Things start happening above 180 volts, so be prepared to use mains power and a decent bridge rectifier.   Be prepared to provide 20 amps at start up.  Mondo variac almost a must.   

Start with green rod pure tungsten.

Try any and every combination of the above, and log every detail of yer process.

This ain't fer the faint of heart.

You have a tremendous amount to learn, and the cell will do the teaching..

Build it and learn.

Turtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #352 on: December 23, 2007, 04:11:10 AM »
Howdy fellers.
I am really interested in more of your guys experiences. I am fixin to build me a plasma generator and am learning about this stuff fast.

Yer youth betrays you.  Take yer time, lest you not live to tell the tale.

Turtle

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #353 on: December 03, 2008, 06:48:55 PM »
Walking down your old path Iron Head, thank you for all the info and inspiration

Ooooh and they make a great looking light  ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd3jAuCi3-c


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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #353 on: December 03, 2008, 06:48:55 PM »
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #354 on: January 11, 2009, 04:41:59 AM »
@ IronHead, did you try connecting a microwave oven transformer's primary in series with the anode? 
This is my latest progress of my experiments. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h00kMLVy8AM&feature=channel_page
Even though this is a small cell, I am still able to sustain the reaction at 200watts.  I have too much electrolyte in the water so that causes the larger consumption of power.  I believe the increase in light and sound has to do with resonance somehow.  Here is the circuit I built. 
http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/1/10/f_circuitm_c1572bd.jpg
I can not locate a MoT (microwave transformer) anywhere and had to use an oil burner transformer.  I get the same results, but the oil burner transformer doesn't like much current at all.  If you haven't tried it already, try it.  It easily doubled the production and heat for me. 

The capacitor bank on the AC side creates a voltage drop in essence limits current.  The dimmer.......I don't know what it does to the whole circuit, but it allows me to tune into the best "groove".  I am still trying to figure out how to use the secondary of the transformer.  Someone suggested spark gaps, but I don't think the oil burner transformer puts out enough volts off the secondary (supposed to be around 9000 to 10000 volts). 
« Last Edit: January 11, 2009, 05:51:48 AM by ApEkV2 »

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #355 on: June 29, 2009, 09:19:18 PM »
Hi,
Recently stumbled across this fascinating chain and am slowly amassing the bits needed to build a cell.
Whilst researching, also found this article:
'Generation of Heat and Products During Plasma Electrolysis'
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTgeneration.pdf

Apologies if it's already been posted, but I thought it may be relevant, and interesting.

Cheers

TC

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #356 on: July 31, 2009, 09:36:32 PM »
 :) Hi. I also started doing some research into plasma electrolysis, what a fascinating world...
     I posted a video of my early experiments on youtube if anyone is interested.
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALFYm_6IlX8

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #357 on: August 12, 2009, 12:32:38 AM »
Nice vid there duke,, what is the setup? pm me if ya like.

:) Hi. I also started doing some research into plasma electrolysis, what a fascinating world...
     I posted a video of my early experiments on youtube if anyone is interested.
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALFYm_6IlX8

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Re: Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead
« Reply #358 on: August 12, 2009, 12:47:06 AM »
Great job Duke, looks like she is really running clean.
Keep up the good work

 

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