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Title: Flying quartz?
Post by: raburgeson on March 05, 2006, 04:20:30 AM
Does anyone got a quick scoop on this. I'm not lazy but I'm on a chase for the gravity formula they are using now and if I give any hints to were I'm looking the source will dry up. Been at this one till the eyes are fried, I have a blue screen sized square in front of me that makes it hard to get to sleep now. I will share if I find it.
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: sypherios on February 21, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
I have read in a book that there was an experiment done in the 1920's with a cubic foot of quartz. The scientist hooked it up to an ocilating high tension electrical current. It streched out to roughly twice its size and lifted 5kg's off the ground with it. Thisis the real deal. With an nuclear generator there would be enough electricity to lift a large craft.

              Sincerely Sypherios
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: Nali2001 on February 22, 2007, 04:12:23 PM
Only thing I read about it is that is was a deliberate hoax made by some of scientific paper to see how many people would fall for it... But then again, who know for sure?
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: sypherios on February 27, 2007, 06:56:00 PM
YES!! This is the article I read. I believe it. I know somewhere there is a craft flying around with an engine made of this tech
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: Nali2001 on February 27, 2007, 06:58:16 PM
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: devilzangel on October 24, 2007, 03:53:41 AM
a change in opacity and a 10x increase in crystal size. wow.

wonder if Peter Cook was aware of this when he wrote about the german antigrav research during WW2 ; it seems the germans had an interest in antigrav atleast a few decades before Nazi rise to power.

wonder if this phenomenon is related to C Poher's research. possible.

addition: @nally2001 .. why would anybody want to "see" if people fall for this??? Especially in 1927? Most of Germany was suffering from severe economic inflation and burdened with war reparations, setting the stage for Hitler. At the same time USA was enjoying the gilded age along with other powerful countries. What would be the purpose anyways? whether the answer was yes people fell for it or no people were skeptical?

Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: EMdevices on December 04, 2007, 07:27:45 PM
this story sounds true to me, it shows that the molecular structure of the piezoelectric crystal is permanantly altered, and also that there is a gravitation/electromagnetic implication.

I coun't help but wonder about aerogels, could this be a way to make them?

Will aerogels also exibit antigravity under the right frequency?


Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: sypherios on December 06, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
there has got to be a scientist that can replicate this with little $. please ppl do it for the love of this site
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: IndianaBoys on December 06, 2007, 06:33:52 PM
You can order some online from here:

Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 10, 2007, 06:51:30 AM
@ indiannaboy

have you played with stuff at all??

can you melt down the smaller chunks and/or granular gel and mold it into any shape?

@ approx. 2200 deg?
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: IndianaBoys on December 10, 2007, 07:19:26 AM

You would need to ask the supplier.

They also have all kinds of other cool stuff/resources as well.

They are also working on an Hydrogen Fuel System.

Happy R&D'ing over the Holidays,


Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: Koen1 on December 10, 2007, 02:59:57 PM

what makes you think aerogel is even close to quartz?
Quartz is SiO2. Pure.
Aerogel does consist of SiO2-based miniature polymers that are allowed to settle into one big molecule,
but it consists of 50 to 60 percent air. Hence the name aerogel.

Quartz is piezoelectric, which explains why the chunk of quartz in the Frost-article expands in size when high voltages are applied.
Similarly if you would compress the chunk of quartz a relatively high voltage can be generated on the surface of the quartz.
Aerogel is not piezoelectric.

Quartz is a natural oscillator, which is also why it is used in digital watches.
Aerogel is not a natural oscillator.

Clearly, quartz has interesting electrical properties. Aerogel does not.
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: sm0ky2 on December 11, 2007, 12:36:28 AM
true as it may be,. areogel does have amazing properties, structually per mass,
 as well as mass to size ratio.

its the closest thing we have to a 0 bouyancy mass in the air.

granted we still have a long way to go, but this is certainly a step in the right direction.

when you get a large solid mass, that is LESS dense than air, it flies on its own. no EMF required.  think about that for a second.
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: Koen1 on December 11, 2007, 12:35:42 PM
True, a body of mass with a lower volume to mass ratio than air will float in air.
It will also get blown all over the place by the slightest gush of wind.
We already have ways of creating a vessel that is lighter than air: a blimp.

That still does not give credibility to the Frost article, nor does it provide any link between aerogel and quartz.

Let's assume we can actually make a piece of quartz float by stimulating it with high voltage and radio waves;
to make any form of flying craft with it, we will need it to carry the apparatus for delivering said voltages and waves, along
with a power source. The Frost article does not give indications as to how much power is needed to achieve the effect.
The weight of the power system and circuitry will probably be significantly higher than the "lift" produced.
And that is ignoring the freezing temperatures that were apparently needed according to the article. We'd need machinery to
keep the low temperature as well.
All in all seems quite unfeasable to use it for flight.

If the Frost experiment was ever real, that is. ;)
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: raburgeson on December 14, 2007, 08:30:20 PM
OK, Let me explain were this is coming from and a quick run down on what I believe so you know what I'm steering at. I read released documents, one of my favorite lurking sites is the black vault. Some were in the past I read a document saying they recovered a craft that was constructed with a quartz hull with an embedded gold lattice. Now let me explain were I think this craft came from, quickly became obsolete and won't be heard of again.

Secrecy and psyops go hand in hand, the government has spent 98% of the research moneys since 1905. Of course all break throughs are shelved and we are to believe no advancements are made in science. Let's look at this another way. The government does 50 times the research that the civilian world does per year. Let's be real kind here and start the clock at 1940. At the Roswell point 1947 they would have advanced 7 X 50 = 350 years worth of civilian advancement in science. That means they would be doing things civilian research would be doing in 2290. That's discounting a lot of data like theft, scare tactics, buying out, and murdering inventors and scientists in the civilian world. (Your tax dollars working for you.)

What we are doing now, Making human hybreds, looking past all the disinformation about gravity and working on space time control through neutrino energy, making leaps in quantum physics. The leaps in quantum are coming from good hard bench work. They have fired a sub atomic particle into a Y shaped tube and had 2 particle come out 1 each side of the Y. They have fired a particle into a tube and had a particle exit before the original particle entered. They have sped up, slowed down and reversed the speed of light. The fastest paced advances in science right now are in nano-technology. Scientist are leaving the Theory of Relativity like rats leaving a sinking ship. Sub atomic particle researchers brought out the string theory because bench work absolutely proves Relativity does not work. The civilian world is doing this in 2007 so imagine what the government was doing in 1947.

In 1947 we could have built the disk shaped craft, the aliens, had interstellar flight and a secret space program. I don't believe in aliens, oh, they may exist but, give them one look at what's going on on this planet and they would leave and pass the word around, Never stop here again. The so called aliens and their mental powers! Take a look at this.    Now I ask you to look closely at the monkey that has had his skull opened and wired. This represents research and development money. This is a division of science in it's own right and this is old released crap. They are still spending billions a year on it today. So, now that I ruin the disinformers day (believe me they would jump on this post in a heart beat with ridicule).
I point out to you that all the alien's mental attributes are described in these pages of old mind control technology. So lets put together hybred, nanotechnology, and implants, we get an alien! The human being is capable of marvelous things and the science they hide from us would look like total magic to you. It was your tax money that made these developments and you receive no benefit. If I made a list of what I think they are hiding I take the dumb smile off your face. You could be living a truly amazing life with a span that is indefinite. No, I do not believe in aliens, I do believe they have had plenty of time to salt synthetic lifeforms all over the place. It will be based on our DNA of course.

Why would they do this? To keep control and power. To create an enemy that we can't even chase.

They have a one track mind, let's weaponize it. What they do. They look at the reaction to the broadcast  of War of the Worlds and say let's weaponize it. Look at this, they want it forgotten, no new mention of this has been made.

They look at this and say let's weaponize it. They already have chemical, nano-tech, and electromagnetic mind control and, that's not enough for them. So they create biological mind control and were they are in science they do not fumble around they simply build what they want.

I'm trying to bring you up to speed here they are hiding far more than free energy. As far as interstellar flight goes even without the research they've done they should have had this one year after They robbed Tesla's work. They had that before the body got cold, they couldn't let that fall into civilian hands now could they?

So now you know I do believe in psyops and crooked government.
My curiosity is peaked be the information that fine quartz particles are found in chemtrails. Quartz being heavier than air may give a clue to at least one type of electromagnetic polution we have to endure.

The silicone chip is so obsolete well the gallium chip was so obsolete they never produced it. Since it's Christmas I'll make a list of a couple of things that would make acceptable gifts if we can beat the hidden science out of them.
An AI super computer for development and research with an IQ of 10,000, upgradable of course.
A nano-tech playroom that becomes anything you want at a verbal command.
A holographic entertainment center, real 3d games. Scads of other stuff, instead of trying to convince the public that a phone or TV is high tech, I'm tired of their crap and I for 1 am not a good mushroom. You can't keep me in the dark and feed me bull feeces long.

They don't have the colleges and universities working on government projects because they need the handout of scientific research. They do it to make sure their developed curriculum is keeping people from thinking in a way that they would make a break though.
Title: Re: Flying quartz?
Post by: raburgeson on December 18, 2007, 10:45:04 AM
I think if you toss a whale into a large pond full of Piranha the whale won't do so good. Sorry it took me so long to edit the long post, I found a whole mess of released stuff I haven't seen. No not new releases, 1990s stuff I haven't read yet.

Just trying to let you know the small fish out number the big fish at least a million to one.