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dankie

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #135 on: September 12, 2009, 05:52:28 PM »
LtfDniel , I disagreee with your statement .

The person with ''hands-on'' skills who did a bit of zpe studying sees exactly the same picture as the guy who doesnt know about ''hands-on''  and has read about zpe.

ZPE information is all a bunch of hogwash anyways , you `think` it might be like this  when its not , and if it was how can you bring those  effects into something useable , `''studying zpe'' is easier said than done . You might stand there wasting your time when you could of been in fact learning ''hands-on'' with some books and google , and making your own instruments , repairing your own oscilloscopes that you bought for 1/4 the price. How somebody can stand there giving excuses with ''google'' @ his fingertips is beyond me .

Everything is available for free for the curious mind , for god`s chosen people .







« Last Edit: September 12, 2009, 06:12:50 PM by dankie »

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« Reply #136 on: September 12, 2009, 07:12:31 PM »
If your reasoning can understand this,

The universe is without beginning and is without end...you cannot create nor destory.

If you think about that carefully...the universe has already existed forever and will continue to do so.

If it was not perpetual the universe would never had existed.. i mean it recycles it's self endlessly but the cavity effect is a wonder that only god knows.

There is at least one person i know of, who is exploreing about the process of createing mass out of nothing.

I mean you tell me, can you think like this?

If you had a set of magnets in a circle and got stuck at the sticky point and then you use a electromagnet and quickly turn it on and then off and it does another revolution and repeat and use it to run a generator..most of the work in that revolution will be done with the magnets and not the electromagnet.

I find the universe running out illogical and not straight thinking...like the sun.

I mean its like saying well the universe is 95% efficient and i'm like well the universe would have gone kaput in well 0 seconds.

Then it's like Well something must of magically created a barrel of energy so to speak and then go down hill..and i am like pfft.

In the energy world it all gets traced back to the cause that created the universe which it's self is a cavity effect and it speeds up to infinity all the time that it is instantaneous and is the backbone of the universe.

Yep beyond human illusion what seems to be a balanced force it has an unbalanced force sustaining it and interacting with it..

The tesla switch deals with this perfect 50/50 scenario and this is where bedini get's his overunity..so if it gets overunity...and then all of this energy being extracted and we know we cannot create nor destory...then that means the universe is overunity..because it is going with the flow of the universe..and it is a recycling process.

Sure energy from the vaccum seems to be mass free but then with an overunity system there is energy from the vaccum extraction.

It is why bedini can run with empty batteries :D.

If the circuit gets cold what does that mean :D?

It is extracting zpe and is not wasteing energy, it goes with the flow and it get's repaid more energy.

It takes a sharp mind to notice this cavity effect in everything,

You can create scalar waves when such forces cancel out and this interacts with the vaccum.

So if you convert this to that it all goes back to the cause instantanously and if it was 95% efficient we wouldn't be here so it is a cavity it's self.

Now doesn't that sound harmonic..

If it is not harmonic with the big bang mm no wonder a cavity is like that...then it does not go with the flow.

So if it goes to infinity why does it not slow down like you would seem to expect it to be?

So as with energy like a pack of dominos then the vaccum it's self gives more out than in.

People back in the 1900's were enlightened by god..



« Last Edit: September 12, 2009, 08:20:35 PM by lltfdaniel1 »

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« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2009, 05:22:19 AM »
If you cancel the flux and then let it reconnect then the return is much greater. Cavity closure! Nature abhors a vacuum! In a resonant chamber a void is always filled by an abundance. Back and forth, back and forth.

Abhorrence = ferocity. A magnet will always find a magnet.

The kick is actually an external return.

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« Reply #138 on: September 13, 2009, 07:42:41 PM »
If the vacuum is like a kid jumping on a trampoline and at the point of maximum stress on the surface of the trampoline we introduce a knife point force.  The trampoline punctures and rips and the kid goes inertial. 
Where and when and how much is needed to rip the fabric of the Universe?  Or is that necessary, perhaps we can slide a board in between the kid and the trampoline and get some ZPE.  The point charge will decrease (sorry quantom physics the Universe is not black and white) but we should beable to get some energy flowing in a desired current.

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« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2009, 04:07:10 AM »
Trampoline is a good example! It is more like 'Sending'. It only takes a toe press of the sender at the right time to send the jumper flying.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 04:40:03 AM by giantkiller »

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« Reply #140 on: September 14, 2009, 07:59:33 PM »
Here is a question for back to basics. I now know the FTPU has at least 6 small capacitors and one resistor.

Delay in the case of the TPUs would offer a successive pulsing in two or more coils, rings, control coils, or what ever.

So let's say I had a positive pulse line to which I connect four small capacitors (all with slightly different values) all in parallel but the other end of each capacitor goes to an individual coil or whatever. Then the other end of the coils or whatever goes to one primary side of a transformer to have a good place to land the pulses and measure off the secondary. The other end of the primary goes to negative.

So the question is if I pulse this, will each coil get 1/4th of the pulse energy at a different time, even though the capacitors are pulsed all at the same time? This woul dbe good since being in parallel will never overload the capacitor and this will also provide a place to increase in gain as pulse energy increases, it will always be divided by four.

Can anyone give me a straight answer?


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« Reply #141 on: September 14, 2009, 08:43:59 PM »
    Sorry wattsup but along those lines.  If you've been following Grumpy's line of  thought we need to get some kinda dielectric stress going in the tpu.  The Hendershot torroidal core is placed between two plastic plates.  Then the plates are pulsed with what I would imagine are high voltage dc spikes/kicks.  (The Hendershot device does not work if filtering capacitors are used in the dc input.)  This does two things it stresses the vacuum and creates a displacement magnetic field.  I believe the timing device is  mod: used to shorten the duty cycle of the input waveform and to phase the kick.    Say the ambient magnetic field flux is influenced by an external modulator of some sort.  Iron's atoms respond more to the magnetic dipole moments alignment with a magnetic field change than it's electric dipole moments do to an electrical field change.  Therefore the resistance to current of an iron conductor is more influenced by an external magnetic field  shift than an imposed voltage.   If there are any vacuum fluctuations or changes in the dielectric k value within the field of the big round capacitor plates it will appear in the displacement magnetic field where we find the collectors/induction coils.  This process would magnify any vacuum produced electrical flux changes.  On top of the displacement magnetic field generated by the input kick charging the plates would be the vacuum generated flux variants. 
   I guess the next logical step would be to produce a kick on like two records or some static stuff like wire spool plastic and measure the magnetic flux produced by the kick with a sampling variable inductor capacitor network.  The vacuum flux would appear as hash on top of the input displacement .  SM could have been inputting 5kz and making the thing ring for maximum efficiency but his gain is the hash riding the 5kz. If the kick breaks down into alot of different freqs it is a matter of which freq to become resonant with.  We don't want to go too high or the kick just goes radiant and is wasted.  A number of pickup tanks could be used ringing at different freqs all with the vacuum flux gain riding them.  The power in the circuit would be increased by the amplitude of the currents in the periphial tanks circuits.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 09:38:25 PM by sparks »

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« Reply #142 on: September 14, 2009, 10:58:06 PM »
Here is a question for back to basics. I now know the FTPU has at least 6 small capacitors and one resistor.

Delay in the case of the TPUs would offer a successive pulsing in two or more coils, rings, control coils, or what ever.

So let's say I had a positive pulse line to which I connect four small capacitors (all with slightly different values) all in parallel but the other end of each capacitor goes to an individual coil or whatever. Then the other end of the coils or whatever goes to one primary side of a transformer to have a good place to land the pulses and measure off the secondary. The other end of the primary goes to negative.

So the question is if I pulse this, will each coil get 1/4th of the pulse energy at a different time, even though the capacitors are pulsed all at the same time? This woul dbe good since being in parallel will never overload the capacitor and this will also provide a place to increase in gain as pulse energy increases, it will always be divided by four.

Can anyone give me a straight answer?

For true sequential activation of coils, I recommend some sort of triggering arrangement that will allow adjustment between each coil in the sequence and not allow the first to turn on again before it's turn. 

Just knowing that something uses six capacitors doesn't tell you very much without a very good theory of operation or a schematic.  You can have six caps in a delay line or a Marx generator or a voltage multiplier or a filter or a thousand other circuits.

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« Reply #143 on: September 15, 2009, 05:17:28 PM »
Well OK I know you can use caps for many uses but the question was pretty specific to this case and well outlined. I was not asking what the caps can be used for.

Anyways, tonight, hopefully I will post a nice picture of the FTPU with some great
discoveries that will give a better idea on the winding and control. I now know the front end to the right of the toroid is the top ring/coil control and the bottom ring/coil control is situated behind the toroid where there is the same capacitor as the EM capacitor. The back end also has the feed power coming in via a resistor. lol

You can also see the bottom ring wire going up from the center of the spool, coming out between the two magnet placement terminals flush with the toroid then it hugs the toroid to the right going to the back end. lol

The basic premise is mutual induction to achieve mutual gain. The toroid has two coils and there are two half wound control coils on each outer ring. Half top goes with  half bottom control coil going to positive of the toroid half and the top ring goes to negative of the same toroid half. Same thing for the other toroid half but in reverse. All you have to do is pulse the top two control coils and all the energy will circulate through the complete circuit (top and bottom control coil halves, toroid half, top ring) + (other top and bottom control coil halves, other toroid coil and bottom ring) and back making two loops with the core of the toroid being used as an accumulator point. The more the toroid core accumulates, the more it has to send around again increasing with gain. The latent state of the pulsing will create mini-field collapses that will return from both ends of the rings and add to the energy being circulated to the point that an output can be taken from circulating polarities. Kind of like having an automatic apple peeler scrapping off the skin as the apple turns. The pulsing not only gives the pulse but more importantly, system directionality or proper biasing.

All you need is one pulse frequency per TPU, but in the case of the LTPU, the design is two TPUs in one so you do need two pulse frequencies.

I have not found a diode yet. But, the FTPU will give up most of its build secrets soon enough.

Just read Bruce_TPU's last post as he is also on a similiar track. But you cannot post on his thread because it is locked. Smart guy.

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« Reply #144 on: September 15, 2009, 08:37:48 PM »
I have not had time to read all the post yet so i just wanted to ask...

Bruce_TPU is getting his info from who?

Bruce_TPU's info is credible?

Bruce_TPU has built one that works?

Thanks

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« Reply #145 on: September 15, 2009, 11:24:47 PM »
GOD?

Sure! Like this: "There is absolutely NO denying the fact that those two carrier frequencies of 115 KHz and 222 KHz were found and engineered in that sense to do EXACTLY what they do." what?  ???


Not yet.

Good - that would ruin all the fun lol..

Im still waiting for the secret photo of S.M. at E.V.Grays estate sale to surface...lol...

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« Reply #146 on: September 16, 2009, 12:34:48 AM »
@wattsup,
I follow your work. I am using the items you have displayed. I took the ECD switched the controls from the large bottom ring and switched them to the smaller top ring (Can you say magamp toroid?). I use a Homebrew version of JDO300 USB connected controller to drive 2 of his SSR fet boards with the 2 pulse kick accepting protocol.  ;)
And guess what?

@all,
Remember 2 things. My spastic results from the GK4(iron core, mobius wound) and JDO300's lightbulb flash ECD video. With the controller connected via USB I have a firewall against the 'Bang on' effect, NO?! So when I reach that poynt, guess what happens? ???

This latest setup is the smaller ring is 2" diam and the larger ring is 15" diam. in series with one inside the other and 2 control coils. Just like the toroid thingy. I turn this thing on and tune the 2 freqs and adjust the delay. I have 180vdc across the collector. I have a 1 layer device. But have the other layers at my beck and call. But that addition is in a few. I believe the capture happens from another layer.

The spikes are 400vdc. There are ringing bursts across the full graticle of all 4 scope channels, 2 scopes. This is the kick taking off. They look like quick random shotgun blasts. It runs for a while then the meters go to '1' (haywire), the scope screens are full of freqs higher than the driving one, the amperage goes to 10millamps( :o). It is not about current flow...
The 'Bang on' gets more and more until the final hit. Then the USB acts like a safety switch and shuts down leaving the SSRs full on with no pulsing. The amperage exceeds that of the controller power supply and the lm317 thermally shuts down the controller.
I do this over and over again. This is with a microwave oven cap and a 1uf mylar cap in parallel to the 180vdc supply across the coil. Resonance. ;)

Now I go back and address the capture to avoid the RF/RE emissions.
I now have a device that is a hybrid design of the ECD and SM17.
Does everybody see this? This is what Bruce is talking about. Very feasible with or without control. But, I could be wrong (legal caveat). :D

A side step is to work the waveform capture and fourier transforms with the 2 scope's / 4 channel data. The displays go by too fast to acurately show the static results.

Pix#1: Controller and SSR fet boards
Pix#2: HV power supply
Pix#3: Coil with toroid thingy inside

--giantkiller. I continue on. I got to get this done.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 04:49:14 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #147 on: September 16, 2009, 12:39:36 AM »
Do you have any pictures?

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« Reply #148 on: September 16, 2009, 12:42:43 AM »
@Gk

what are your thoughts on Bruce's releases?  Do you know if he actually has voltage gains?

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« Reply #149 on: September 16, 2009, 12:48:55 AM »
That is his domain. I only pull the nuggets from the mine to make my jewelry.

But for now the process does exist randomly in this form I have. Capture or control is the next path to take. If I do the capture then the control wouldn't be so neccessary. This would keep it simple. But to try control first means energy still flying away and this would just keep shutting things down. And that can hurt. The largest dog in the house wants to hide under the couch when the the burst happens. WaHaaHaa! I have to be careful, again.

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