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BEP

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For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« on: August 06, 2009, 03:44:34 AM »
I think the Pencil-Heads are catching up with us  :o

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009AIPC.1103..501V

Now, if these idiots would just understand that space-charge and current flow are opposites sides of the same coin  ;)

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2009, 06:43:41 AM »
You know, it is pretty darn sad, we have a National Security System that keeps Air & Space Vehicles a Secret, We have NASA and Aerospace struggling for new ideas on Air & Space Concepts, We have countries around the world struggling to keep up.

when all this time, every single book of religion in the world tells how to make the most sophisticated Air & Space craft that may ever be known to mankind. the lost Scrolls are the best, they were purposely hidden for a very long time from mainstream religion. why is that I wonder!

Why is it that nobody in 3000 years figured out the blue print yet, it is in plain sight and right in front of everyones eyes. God gave it to mankind.

but see, nobody wants to touch it because it has a curse on it and everyone is afraid of what will happen if they build it.

Most people don't even know about the books and let alone the book of Enoch, and 2 thousand years before that the Anki God which also has the same spaceship described to the T! 1000 years before the Gods of the Egyptions.

Even the American Indians tell of the same space ship that was even visited in the Aztecs and Mayans, The orient was also visited by the same spaceship.

everyone wants to know the truth but it was all there all along. governments can't cover it up because religion will not and won't be band.

+6,774,705,647 people and 3000 years since, come on guys!

why is it do you think he/she gave it to every religion for, to me that would start another space race and that would include 3rd world countries and all the internet as well.

I would start reading you're good book, it has everything one needs to know maybe even take in some spiritual insight at the same time.

Cheeri'O and God Bless you.
Jerry ;)

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 02:08:15 PM »
When these historical facts (?) also provide enough detail to build something that works I'll look into it.

Until then, where is my MODERATE tab  ???

Anyone have any comments on the fact that terms like 'quantum vacuum' and 'ZPE' show up in a NASA reference?

How about someone understanding that diodes, even true zero-bias ones,  conduct charge both ways instantly but only cut current off one way - and only then after current has equalized on both sides of the diode?

Nah.... Even the so-called experts think a diode blocks all reverse current within the operating parameters of the diode.

How about you @Farrah Day?

Do you want to know why water can hold a charge? Reverse polarity than expected? Or perhaps why a water bridge can be formed between beakers?

I look forward to your standard stream of insults.

Never mind. This forum has degraded to a septic tank of zealot debunkers, space aliens and religious fanatics.


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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 03:34:20 PM »
Anyone have any comments on the fact that terms like 'quantum vacuum' and 'ZPE' show up in a NASA reference?

The author is Tom Valone, who is one of us. He often manages to get in under the radar. Interesting what he says though, that Johnson noise (quantum fluctuations) can move electrons across some diodes. That's direct use of ZPE to produce DC.

How about someone understanding that diodes, even true zero-bias ones,  conduct charge both ways instantly but only cut current off one way - and only then after current has equalized on both sides of the diode?

That's simple enough to understand using that analogy of a water pipe with a check valve in the middle. There's still pressure on both sides so water, or charge, can still move in either direction on each side. But water will cross the valve in only one direction. Is that what you mean? I've had to think in those terms recently when working on my testatika.
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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 06:51:00 PM »
Steve

On the check valve analogy...

Yes, but think of a simple one transistor blocking oscillator. Add a diode between the base and common (emitter side - NPN). Face the cathode so it doesn't have much effect on the operation. Then reverse the diode polarity. If the circuit is fast enough you will see there is a diode turn-on time even when current is a forward bias.
This makes a great short spike generator.

So they aren't catching up with us. 'They' are us. 8-)

Scary!

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 10:06:14 PM »
Hi BEP.

it's okay, the whole blue print is divided up among 12 different religious books from 12 different sub cultured races anyhow. which is the 12 fruits of the tree of life and also the 12 labors of Heracules and the golden apples and on and on.

if you have studied the books then you would realize why it is called the 'engrafted word' because the religious books form a tree to the whole blue print. it requires a full religion theologists and a very good scientific background to figure it out. a person with both of these attributes can learn from it rather well.

I'll just leave this post alone and be on my merry way.

Cheeri'O
Jerry ;)

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 10:20:45 PM »
Tunnel diodes are pretty interesting because of what happens in the tunnel (an electron seems to 'disappear' for a moment: it needs some [constant] time to enter the tunnel, no time to traverse it, and then again some [constant] time to leave it – see links in this article – and I've heard it described in a [very] simplified way as entering and leaving 'mini' black and white holes, which seem to be somewhat similar to the huge energy balancing pair in the center of every galaxy). The 'trick' seems to be to 'un-balance' the environment of the diode so that there is an 'energy surplus' on the outside of the tunnel (which seems to involve electro-magnetic fields as well as [a disconnection from mass] consciousness). Too bad tunnel diodes cannot be mass-manufactured cheaply...

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 11:39:07 PM »
Too bad tunnel diodes cannot be mass-manufactured cheaply...

They can be. They just aren't. As far as being cheap - use a 2N2222 transistor without a connection to the base. Devices aren't much cheaper than that.

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 12:05:34 AM »
They can be. They just aren't.

My understanding is that the non-resonant variety is difficult to produce with matching characteristics – they vary widely in their characteristic (N-shaped) curve. So I guess the selection process is the expensive part. Also, only a very few manufacturing companies left, for special-purpose tunnel diodes...

use a 2N2222 transistor without a connection to the base.

Hmmm... Didn't know the old 2N2222 is rad hard like a TD...  ;D
I have my doubts though – this sounds more like the circuit usually used to generate white noise, right? Was recently in a few libraries and most literature about TDs is from the 60s...

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United States Patent 7,379,286 -- Quantum Vacuum Energy Extraction
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 05:16:16 PM »
A spinoff company from Caltech, Jovion Corporation, has been awarded US Patent 7,379,286.

http://www.calphysics.org/Patent.html

These guys are not crackpots. They are using the Casimir effect to extract 2.1 KW of energy from a cube of microchanneled material 10 cm on a side. They use 1.7 milliwatts input. That is a COP of 1.2 million!

I know you may say who cares? There is no way I can make a microchanneled block like that in my garage. Besides, a windmill has a COP of infinity. Yes, but the wind doesn't blow all the time. The same goes for solar cells. The sun doesn't shine all the time. But the Casimir effect will operate anywhere anytime. No deadly radiation and no deadly radioactive byproducts. Mainstream science won't even consider (or won't admit to) extracting vacuum energy using electromagnetic energy.

Hang in there guys. Extraction of vacuum energy IS possible. Think of this patent as another proof of principal. Tom Bearden may just yet become mainstream science before this is all over.  He may even end up with a Nobel Prize!

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Re: United States Patent 7,379,286 -- Quantum Vacuum Energy Extraction
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 08:17:18 PM »
.....

 Tom Bearden may just yet become mainstream science before this is all over.


I wish him success,  at least I wish this technology should spread much quicker into practical solutions,  unlike his MEG device for instance on which they have been working on for more than a decade now, without success.

Thanks for the info.

rgds, Gyula

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Re: United States Patent 7,379,286 -- Quantum Vacuum Energy Extraction
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 08:46:36 PM »
US Patent 7,379,286

Interesting (I think this kind of research was also recently mentioned at a conference).

Translation of some values from physicist's language to engineer's language, for perspective:

0.529 Ã… = 0.0529 nm = 52.9 pm
455 Å = 0.0455 µm = 45.5 nm
0.1..0.2 µm = 100..200 nm
6.6 × 1015 s-1 = 6600 THz = 6.6 PHz
13.6 eV = 2.18 × 10-18 Ws
1..10 eV = 0.16..1.6 × 10-18 Ws

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Re: For all the ZPE & Quantum Vacuum Energy Fans...
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 06:18:42 PM »
anything new? or dead fad?