Author Topic: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology. (Read 71852 times)

triffid · « **Reply #60 on:** September 06, 2009, 09:23:36 PM »

A wire held 200 meters up will generate 2000 volts.Same source.triffid

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #61 on:** September 07, 2009, 03:29:57 AM »

Quote from: triffid on September 06, 2009, 09:18:32 PM

I have recently read that a wire held 600 meters up in the air will generate 20,000 volts(balloon ,I guess).Popular science magazine,1973.Very little amps.triffid

Good, I agree with you for the most part.
However, when the inventors of the '20s and '30s worked, there was a lot less 60 cycle power available to tap into by resonance.

Plauson , in his patent, implied he needed several km of cable, suspended from balloons, to power a 500 HP motor. I agree. He stepped down, by transformer, the HV to something his motor could tolerate, though.

But my question to you, triffid, is how long is the wire you're using? I remember, on the Internet, and this site, a 250-300 foot antenna wire would generate up to 3,000 VAC to be stepped down with a car ignition coil and a spark plug.

--Lee

triffid · « **Reply #62 on:** September 07, 2009, 05:07:37 AM »

Somewhere here on overunity I posted a link to a capacitance charger made with 200 feet of insulated wire about 5 feet off the ground .As the wind blows over the wire ,the wire acts as a capacitor,picks up a charge from the wind supposedly in the 3000 volt range.Gets downgraded into a 12 volt battery charger.Supposely charges up a 12 volt battery in 2 or 3 days.No I have not built one.It works best in cold weather.Most of the time I don't build anything.I hear about something somewhere and pass on the information here.I have done experiments in the past.I have no plans right now on putting up a wire.I might put up one in 2 or 3 months about 20 feet high on a friends property.I will try to find that link and post it here.Triffid

triffid · « **Reply #63 on:** September 07, 2009, 05:12:34 AM »

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #64 on:** September 07, 2009, 04:50:29 PM »

Quote from: triffid on September 07, 2009, 05:12:34 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid

@triffid
Yes, exactly. 300-350 feet of co-ax cable should do the trick. Twice the wire would take less time, but it was pointed out elsewhere, I think, that risky voltages levels would be present. Even more lengthy wire runs were potentially dangerous to deadly if you touched the ungrounded end.

--Lee

triffid · « **Reply #65 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:00:52 PM »

I have all the parts to put it together but never did.My property was too short for a 200 foot length of wire,even zig-zag.I also wonder about a battery charge controller for it.It needs something to switch over to the next battery that needs recharging.triffid

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #66 on:** September 08, 2009, 07:36:27 PM »

Quote from: triffid on September 07, 2009, 05:12:34 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/capacitorcharger.htm
look here for something interesting.Triffid

50-60 hz power contributes a lot to the output of these systems.

Another Overunity Member indicated in a post that putting up many antennae systems would require power companies to increase the output of their plants.
He's right. Resonance induction is what these aerials do and they'll load a municipal power main circuit down. That's why tapping power from a power company's cable is illegal. It loads to system unnecessarily and is stealing as well.

Now, take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=Ko55AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=antenna+coil&num=100&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q=antenna%20coil&f=false

Back in the '20s, more wire was needed than now, since municipal power wasn't widely available like it is now. I have a place in mind to do what the invention implies, but not the freedom to do it, unfortunately.

--Lee

triffid · « **Reply #67 on:** September 08, 2009, 08:47:09 PM »

Can the 3000 volts really be gotten from magnentic induction on a 200 foot wire from the power company if you don't have high tension wires over head?I know friction can generate high voltage static electricity.I was quite happy thinking that the wire picks up a charge from the wind.I do like the coil antenna patent .I could for sure put 200 feet of wire in that configuration.I could wear it on my body almost.One of my friends said he would make one which he never did.A sign of the times I guess.triffid

triffid · « **Reply #68 on:** September 08, 2009, 08:48:34 PM »

I guess one could hook up a scope to the wire to see if its 50-60 hz.triffid

triffid · « **Reply #69 on:** September 08, 2009, 09:01:56 PM »

I do agree that one has to be careful not to tap into the power company illegally.Which is one reason I'm so big on solar power or making huge batteries(earth batteries,mostly).I am now considering peltier modules to convert some heat energy into electrical energy.To use them in place of solar panels.They are said to be 5-8% efficient but a lot cheaper than solar panels.12.99+shipping on ebay for 158 watt unit.Triffid

nueview · « **Reply #70 on:** September 08, 2009, 10:04:05 PM »

triffid
has anyone thought of useing thermocouples on the heat sink for there inverter heat sinks as this would recover waist heat and could be used for charging the batteries just a thought as it would still provide cooling in the passing.
Martin

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #71 on:** September 09, 2009, 02:43:06 AM »

nueview said:

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triffid
has anyone thought of useing thermocouples on the heat sink for there inverter heat sinks as this would recover waist heat and could be used for charging the batteries just a thought as it would still provide cooling in the passing.
Martin

@nueview(Martin)
Peltier module and thermocouples are, say, 3-7% efficient, in terms of power consumption compared to heating or cooling rates achieved.
The Rankine or Carnot refrigerator is 40-60% efficient.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_cycle

Thermocouples and Peltier devices would be unnecessarily large and power inefficient.

--Lee

triffid · « **Reply #72 on:** September 09, 2009, 05:22:17 AM »

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/ambientpower.htm is another interesting way to get power from an antenna.triffid

the_big_m_in_ok · « **Reply #73 on:** September 09, 2009, 05:39:35 PM »

Quote from: triffid on September 09, 2009, 05:22:17 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/energy21/ambientpower.htm is another interesting way to get power from an antenna.triffid

@triffid
You're right. Tate had a patent issued for his invention: #4,628,299. GOOGLizing "ambient power module" and "tate" or "patent 4628299" should get you more information.

--Lee

kukulcangod · « **Reply #74 on:** October 09, 2009, 05:48:33 AM »

Hi

I got sometimes up to 200 volts and some milliamps , how do we get something to run with this?say a small dc motor?
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