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Author Topic: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.  (Read 71719 times)

triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2009, 03:49:01 PM »
 I think that increasing surface area is not the same as increasing mass.I believe that surface area can be increased  many times(example a human lung small as it is has the surface area of a football field).So one lb of metal dissolved in solution would have a maximum value of (X).You add another lb of that metal.And you doubled the surface area (2X).X is the max value of the surface area of one lb of metal in solution.Its how I see it in my head.Triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2009, 03:52:31 PM »
I can only work with a limited amount of metal in my attic.Too much metal would bring down the house.So I try to increase the surface area of the metal plate instead.Its appears to be a trade off to me.Triffid

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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2009, 05:24:27 PM »
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I think that increasing surface area is not the same as increasing mass.I believe that surface area can be increased  many times(example a human lung small as it is has the surface area of a football field).
Hi triffid,
I think I see now.  In rocket fuel engineering, manufacturers use finely ground up solid fuels and oxidizers.  The smaller the particle size, the greater the surface area presented to the flame front of the fuel grain burning from inside out to the case---and the faster the fuel burns.

You might have a point on that.

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triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2009, 05:08:29 PM »
To big M,You gave me an idea.Maybe the plate could be a bucket of nails (all in contact with each other) or a tray of metal powder (all electrically connected)?You may not need an acid solution or a base solution up in your attic.Maybe just small pieces of metal in electrical contact with each other.A bucket of nails would have more surface area than a flat metal sheet of the same mass.Likewise a box or tray of small metal parts all touching each other(electrically)?Just thinking out loud here.This way you would not need acids or bases(liquids) anywhere around you?Triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2009, 05:59:15 PM »
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To big M,You gave me an idea.Maybe the plate could be a bucket of nails (all in contact with each other) or a tray of metal powder (all electrically connected)?You may not need an acid solution or a base solution up in your attic.
@triffid
I think I see you point, but my Dad told me when I was a teenager that electrical resistance always increased with the length of wire.

Now, the same may be true with a bucket of nails?  But the concept of volume being an augmenter for electrical power may be something to think about more.

Have to go, can write later,

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2009, 06:35:25 PM »
Maybe a plastic tub with a plastic lid would insulate the metal parts inside?Triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2009, 06:45:47 PM »
Maybe different metals would collect the ionizing charge differently?Some better than others?I'm not really set up to experiment a lot.I haven't really seen anyone too concerned about resistance in these simple antenna setups yet so I hadn't really thought about it at all.Maybe a mistake?Silver wire would have less resistance than copper wire.Maybe a plate ( consisting of silver coins in the plastic tub with a with a plastic lid covering it) would collect the energy better than a bucket of brand new clean nails?Triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2009, 06:49:18 PM »
Just kicking out some ideas here.Triffid

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« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2009, 06:52:03 PM »
Maybe a plastic tub with a plastic lid would insulate the metal parts inside?Triffid
Electrically, yes.  The idea is not to make a Faraday cage, which plastic won't do.

But I entertain the concept that if a greater volume of material, regardless of shape, might cause greater power generation by allowing more interaction with radio wave fronts impacting it.

That thought crossed my mind in conjunction with yours, or someone's, comment concerning, "More volume means more power."

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #54 on: September 01, 2009, 07:12:52 PM »
I see "more volume" as connected to "more mass".So I can see how more mass(i.e.more volume) could increase the power.Surface area is not the same unit as volume just as it is not the same unit as mass.So far The units I use to think of these plates in are just "surface area" and "mass ".
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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2009, 05:19:59 PM »
Yes, a greater volume of material would increase the power.Since it means a greater quanity of material would be added to what you already had.Triffid

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« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2009, 05:15:48 AM »
I see "more volume" as connected to "more mass". ... Yes, a greater volume of material would increase the power.Since it means a greater quanity of material would be added to what you already had.Triffid
I have many patents(mostly older, from the Teens and Roaring Twenties) on my thread...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0 ,

...in no order, but inventors thought suspending a wire or grid arrangement from a balloon was popular way back then for generating power.  It would work then, as now.  "The bigger the better," as they say.  Up to the lifting limit of the balloon(s).
It's just that there was little or no 60 Hz house/industry wiring to add to the power generation by resonance effects.  A very long wire or cable was required at that time.

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2009, 06:17:04 PM »
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triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2009, 09:14:26 PM »
So to recap,"Volume" is an older term for "mass". Big M is saying volume is the term used by a lot of inventors from the 19 tens through 20's for their antenna systems.Like a lot of todays chemicals were called different names 100 years ago.No wonder I couldn't wrap my head around "volume" at first.It's an expression used before my time.triffid

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Re: Free energy, from a antenna. Tesla technology.
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2009, 09:18:32 PM »
I have recently read that a wire held 600 meters up in the air will generate 20,000 volts(balloon ,I guess).Popular science magazine,1973.Very little amps.triffid