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Author Topic: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody  (Read 8630 times)

Offline jibbguy

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2009, 07:56:15 PM »
I hope that you are not referring to the "XSF" concept from Vlad over at Zpenergy.

Imo, it is not what you are suggesting, although it is not exactly "Open Source" either... It is something in between and unique in that sense, and the outcome would be O-S in the end from my understanding of it. I don't agree 100% with everything in that concept (i think the "Panacea-BOCAF" concept/model of a University Research Center would be more effective world-wide if properly funded), but XSF has some very interesting aspects and some good promise... And "results" will be the final arbitrator ;)

It is important to remember, that if a commercial venture for F-E is allowed to come to market, that will still allow us to reach our Goals. For instance: Should such a thing be allowed finally by the status quo, it means that the suppressions in the mainstream media regarding F-E technologies will be over as well (otherwise, the device would not have been permitted to come to market in the first place). So the device / technology can then be widely publicized, and Public Awareness about F-E greatly raised. Open and sincere University studies will then happen; and the suppression house of cards comes crashing down for good. 

Once a device is being marketed, we simply reverse-engineer it, come up with parallel applications with slight changes, and Open Source the hell out of it ;) They can't stop that, and once out of the bag, its too late. The world will still benefit... The O-S versions of the basic technology being reproduced all over the planet by thousands of concerned peeps, being reported on, being accepted and implemented. Meanwhile, the markets we are talking about here are so HUGE... That any inventor with a successful working device that comes to market via the commercial route is still a Multi-Billionaire.

We are not "communists". Inventors SHOULD benefit from their great work, it is just that so far, they have not been allowed to when it comes to Free Energy. If this finally changes, it's "a good thing" imo, and still spells the end of using fossil fuels ;)

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2009, 07:56:15 PM »

Offline also antlike

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2009, 08:14:01 PM »
We are not "communists". Inventors SHOULD benefit from their great work, it is just that so far, they have not been allowed to when it comes to Free Energy. If this finally changes, it's "a good thing" imo, and still spells the end of using fossil fuels ;)

But inventors have been allowed to profit.  Look at all the solar, wind and geo technologies in use today.

Offline jibbguy

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2009, 09:57:21 PM »
The difference is in the cost verses oil and coal... When much more expensive than using oil, these conventional alternative energy techs are allowed to come to market without hindrance. Lol, B.P. is even one of the largest suppliers of solar cells in the world today (and are rumored to be now sitting on much more efficient designs).

When much cheaper than fossil fuels, the techs have not been allowed to be marketed.... Either through Patent "secretization" in the name of "national security", or through other means such as corporate shelving, legal harassments, and in the past; murder and strong-arm tactics.

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2009, 09:57:21 PM »
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Offline poynt99

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2009, 02:03:18 AM »
Some are oblivious and others may just be playing games (spare me the reprisal).

In a sense, maybe it would have been better to have addressed only this handful of folks directly, although that was not my first instinct. Rather, I felt all here should be given the opportunity to protect themselves and their knowledge if they so choose, given the knowledge that there is a group of individuals out there seeking to recruit inventors and other insightful individuals, secure promising or partly developed technologies, and glean whatever useful that may be found on these forums etc., all for profit, without acknowledgment to the originator, and not open-sourced.

Once in a blue moon there is bona-fide, valuable information presented on this forum, but it is rare. This of course is the stuff they are interested in.

Even if this company is indeed in it to acquire brilliant minds and technologies, and to try to bring a viable FE product to market, it will not happen on their say. So either way, YOUR ideas, inventions, diagrams, concepts etc, could end up "on the shelf" without you even knowing. Go ahead and try to market it or open-source it yourself. If they did covertly capture and develop your idea to maturity before you did, then you'd be in deep poo poo.

Myself, and I know of 3 others as well here that are now screening our own posts because of this debacle. There is already evidence of "information/concept/idea theft" from this forum.

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Offline ramset

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2009, 03:31:07 AM »
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Quote> given the knowledge that there is a group of individuals out there seeking to recruit inventors and other insightful individuals, secure promising or partly developed technologies, and glean whatever useful that may be found on these forums etc., all for profit, without acknowledgment to the originator, and not open-sourced.<end quote

This sounds like an average day in the life of an R+D engineer

If someone here figured out what Tesla did in the last century,
patents and all.
Would they,could they, end up in poo poo [in a court room???]
Chet
PS
the Buzz threw himself out of this Forum but I sure would love to here his opinion on this [seeing as how his wife is a patent attorney]

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2009, 03:31:07 AM »
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Offline Grumpy

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2009, 04:02:27 AM »
The technology is out there.

Who profits from this technology is yet to be determined.

It's about money, freedom is along for the ride. 

Now, say you got the goods, you don't have the funds to perfect it or market it, but a company like Chava Energy does.  They cut you a deal and your goods become their goods. 

What happens after that is anyone's guess...

Offline ramset

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2009, 05:00:50 AM »
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What happens after that is anyone's guess...
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DUST... dust is what happens next, all over the shelves in the patent office
D   U   S   T  .....
Chet

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2009, 05:00:50 AM »
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Offline X00013

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2009, 06:53:58 AM »
Before the forums are locked down, i would like all of you to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU_16dqfQIk

 and if u live in the world, u mite learn somthing about,well, somthing

Offline Overtone

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2009, 09:16:23 PM »
Chava is not interested in surpressing revolutionary energy technology but in putting it into mass production asap.

Anyone studying our website ought to be able to figure that out pretty easily.

Inventors working with Chava who have something of merit are the basis of the Company. We cheer them on!

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2009, 09:16:23 PM »
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Offline jibbguy

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2009, 10:59:39 PM »
Best of luck to you and Chavez, Mark ;)

We're rooting for your success, too :)
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2009, 08:46:50 PM »
I think most would agree that suppression is out there. I'm not an alarmist nor conspiracy theorist, but I feel it's very important to bring something to light that is concerning me and a few others.

If my observation is correct, suppression is mainly in the form of withdrawal of financial support (and political support) for the FE research community. The wall street is probably is the best place to follow where the money goes.

Edit: Removed the first paragraph.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2009, 09:13:50 PM by blueplanet »

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Re: All FE Forums May Soon Be In Jeoprody
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2009, 08:46:50 PM »
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