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Author Topic: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps  (Read 166559 times)

Offline Harvey

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2009, 01:52:06 AM »
Look who's involved.

It doesn't appear any of it holds any water...

.99

Grow up already.  ::)

TK, can you provide a direct link to the (6?) rod image? For some reason my system is not accessing that. Thanx.

As wonderful as those rods seemed, those that worked were easily depleted over time (the charge rate was slow - see Tesla's associated radiant energy patent and the time frames involved) and they were low wattage. The cost of production was prohibitive and there are other unsavory aspects to its release to the public which effectively locked down its distribution at any cost. If you wish to experiment with something like that then have a look at Einstein's works on the photoelectric effects of various metals and evaluate the atmospheric window that is transparent to specific frequencies. Combine those two things and you may be able to produce something similar. One of the things that bugs me about those rods, is that I held one of those plastic containers in my hand once in the desert (you know where), at a swap meet back in the '70's. I had no idea what I was looking at and the fella behind the table told me it was some sort of generator that worked for a few years and then just stopped working. I could have bought it for a quarter but I was young, stupid and had no idea what I was looking at. But it looked interesting because it had a 110V outlet in the base and no other place for batteries or wires. I walked that same swap meet that day, found a chopper that was smaller, but had a 12V Ciggybuttlighter connector on it and used that to make coffee on the job sites for years before the contacts on the relay literally popped off the rivets. That may still be in my gargage somewhere. Bottom line here on the rods, unless Dr. Schwartz was the original inventor from the late 60's I think he was just trying to revive an old technology that existed from the 1800's on. I remember discussions regarding that material in high school. Nearly all records have been completely stripped from the internet and public libraries, but you may find some in a private library somewhere - I know I've read it in hardcopy print at some time and I wish I could remember when and where. I have a nagging memory that explained the process as a thermocouple bond combined with a low grade radioactive decay that resulted in a transmutation of the metals where extra electrons were given up in the process. Maybe you all can find it somewhere. For some reason I have a mental association of Mischmetal and Mantel material to all of this but please don't ask me how my brain ties all that together - bleagh.

Has anyone yet, actually replicated Marks' TPU? I heard that someone actually had one running but it melted down after a few hours in a runaway mode. I offered to help put in fail safes to prevent that, but never got any takers. The video I have on file, of the small open ring demonstration in the garage is very convincing. And the gyroscopic effects are intriquing. Poynt99, do you have any experience with it?

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Offline xee2

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2009, 02:52:16 AM »
@ Harvey

I suspect you may be thinking of the peltier effect. Used in many space satellites but does not produce much power.


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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #92 on: August 10, 2009, 04:39:21 AM »
@Harvey,very interesting information on the rods,have you asked
Dr. Schwartz if he is the original inventor and if
he can give you a rough
explaination as to how they work,since I don't think
 he will release the exact information on how to make them.
Thanks

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #92 on: August 10, 2009, 04:39:21 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2009, 10:20:34 AM »
@Harvey: I can't find the link to the webpage right now, but here's the ERR Japanese brochure, there are some pix of it in there:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/EnergyReceiver.zip

And it's on Sterling's PESwiki page concerning the devices.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Elemental_rod_generator_900W_jp70.jpg

And This is interesting:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/

And so is this:
http://www.rexresearch.com/craig/craig.htm

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2009, 10:26:02 AM »
The Vortex list discussion is interesting.

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg33518.html
Quote
"It's "grounded to the earth" but there's no ground wire, as they show us
after it's "activated".  So, the statement that it's "grounded" is just
misdirection, like most of what he says.

I loved the bit where they pick up the case and turn it over -- this is
pure stage-magician stuff: see, the box is solid on all sides.
Unfortunately for the demo that little operation also shows that it's
not "grounded to the earth" no matter what he says about it; the claim
that it's grounded was a simple lie."

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2009, 10:42:23 AM »
It just gets more and more interesting.

We are agreed that the elemental rods are in the direct lineage of the Schwartz device, right?

Well, it looks like Stefan has been aware of this story for a while:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/Rodgen2.htm


And as if that's not enough, it appears that there is some kind of link with Dennis Lee. The one linked video seems to be missing, but there's another one in the same ucsofa directory that contains the same stuff, if you can stand to watch Dennis perform. He shows the "original" video at 1:45, and says that he (Dennis) has been showing this since 1997.
http://www.ucsofa.com/videos/case2.rm




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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #96 on: August 11, 2009, 12:44:04 AM »
@Tk
you mentioned the D word (Dennis) wash your mouth out with soap.
I think the Rod's are a dead duck. Lets face it...if there were 74 elements in it you don't have to be Einstein to figure out there is something pretty hot in there with a reasonable half life.
However for the latest device in a box I am very interested to see what is really driving that.
@Harvey
I am happy to go to the phillipines to view the said device including signing an NDA and leaving the video camera behind. There are a lot of red flags from the video demo I saw, however there are somethings I am curious about. My main specialty has been as mentioned before hydrogen injection and as a hobby following magnetic motors.
I have doubts that it is tuned to the earths frequencies (I could be wrong) but the materials used may act as a capicitor or battery.
Mark

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Offline Harvey

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2009, 12:52:09 AM »
@ Harvey

I suspect you may be thinking of the peltier effect. Used in many space satellites but does not produce much power.

Acutally it would be the opposite effect known as the Seebeck Effect. But of course this does not fully explain the action, only a possible portion of it.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2009, 12:57:55 AM »
@Harvey,very interesting information on the rods,have you asked
Dr. Schwartz if he is the original inventor and if
he can give you a rough
explaination as to how they work,since I don't think
 he will release the exact information on how to make them.
Thanks

I told him that I had seen these original rods before at the swap meet and he said he wished I had that apparatus as it was part of some early market test or something. But he never confirmed or denied being the actual inventor.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2009, 12:57:55 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2009, 12:59:26 AM »
@Harvey: I can't find the link to the webpage right now, but here's the ERR Japanese brochure, there are some pix of it in there:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/EnergyReceiver.zip

And it's on Sterling's PESwiki page concerning the devices.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Elemental_rod_generator_900W_jp70.jpg

And This is interesting:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/

And so is this:
http://www.rexresearch.com/craig/craig.htm

Ok, that's what I thought. I wanted to make certain that the rods were not being promoted in any way by NARF.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2009, 01:06:28 AM »
@Tk
you mentioned the D word (Dennis) wash your mouth out with soap.
I think the Rod's are a dead duck. Lets face it...if there were 74 elements in it you don't have to be Einstein to figure out there is something pretty hot in there with a reasonable half life.
However for the latest device in a box I am very interested to see what is really driving that.
@Harvey
I am happy to go to the phillipines to view the said device including signing an NDA and leaving the video camera behind. There are a lot of red flags from the video demo I saw, however there are somethings I am curious about. My main specialty has been as mentioned before hydrogen injection and as a hobby following magnetic motors.
I have doubts that it is tuned to the earths frequencies (I could be wrong) but the materials used may act as a capicitor or battery.
Mark

Rods = DeadDuck  ;)

When the device is available for public viewing you may well be among the first to see it. Those involved are working hard to ensure that this will not be suppressed in any way. I imagine they will seek UL certification prior to public access to it.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2009, 01:17:20 AM »
The Vortex list discussion is interesting.

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg33518.html

There will always be misunderstandings surrounding written and spoken phrases. I know your education is well 'grounded' in science but it does not imply a physical wired connection. The use of the term is obvious in the context, has already been explained by myself in a prior post and the taking of exception of it is where the real misdirection exists.

Ask yourself this TK...what were you working on when you fell into the "Nowhere Man" project? Why have we kept you busy on other things all these years?  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2009, 01:57:32 AM »
Ok, that's what I thought. I wanted to make certain that the rods were not being promoted in any way by NARF.

Let's see: the 6-rod in the plastic case appears in the Japanese brochure for Schwartz's ERR Corp. And it is featured at the top of Sterling's page on these devices. And I do recall seeing it on a NARF page, although the link doesn't work for me now. But OK, if you want to imply that I am not correct in associating Schwartz with the rods device, that's your prerogative. It's wrong, of course, but you have that privilege.

And if you are implying that I have been deliberately distracted to prevent me from applying my vaunted debunking powers and enormous intellect to projects like Schwartz's, then you've been reading Rosemary's verbiage for far too long.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #103 on: August 11, 2009, 02:03:08 AM »
Let's see: the 6-rod in the plastic case appears in the Japanese brochure for Schwartz's ERR Corp. And it is featured at the top of Sterling's page on these devices. And I do recall seeing it on a NARF page, although the link doesn't work for me now. But OK, if you want to imply that I am not correct in associating Schwartz with the rods device, that's your prerogative. It's wrong, of course, but you have that privilege.

And if you are implying that I have been deliberately distracted to prevent me from applying my vaunted debunking powers and enormous intellect to projects like Schwartz's, then you've been reading Rosemary's verbiage for far too long.

Shame if i knew how a overunity device worked...i'd explain it all..and even the techniques...because all it takes is some misunderstanding.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2009, 02:03:30 AM »
It just gets more and more interesting.

We are agreed that the elemental rods are in the direct lineage of the Schwartz device, right?

Well, it looks like Stefan has been aware of this story for a while:
http://freenrg.fr/JapRod/Rodgen2.htm


And as if that's not enough, it appears that there is some kind of link with Dennis Lee. The one linked video seems to be missing, but there's another one in the same ucsofa directory that contains the same stuff, if you can stand to watch Dennis perform. He shows the "original" video at 1:45, and says that he (Dennis) has been showing this since 1997.
http://www.ucsofa.com/videos/case2.rm

This is one place we definitely disagree. The rods are not part of the ERR lineage. They may both be radiation reception devices, but then so are solar panels, TV antennas and a whole list of other devices common to all. The only connection between these two is Dr. Schwartz. His foundation has no negative association with it, and your inference here that it does borders on libel. As far as Dennis goes, I've never met the person nor am I personally familiar with any negative association therewith. I have seen many negative posts regarding this person, like the one above and I simply ignore them. What exactly was there in that video you linked to that you found objectionable?

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