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powerunlimited

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2009, 02:45:25 AM »
@harvey,instead of saying lying,I should have said obfuscate,in the rod video
he said the rods were
made of 73,74 elements,In a post to a news group he said,he only said that
 because a friend video taped the rods
and was going to  show it to friends in the US,the camcorder got stolen,that was in 1988.
He recently send an email to
hartiberlin saying that hes computer was hacked a while back and they stole the
 videos of the rods
 from hes computer
and posted them on youtube.So which is it stolen camcorder or hacked computer
.As to the rods
there isn't going to be any rods in the ERR,its the principle that I'm refering too.
Have you seen a working elemental rod device recently not in the distant past and if you
have does it have magnets, or has the
 Doctor told you about them and said there not related.
 why hasn't the doctor taken out a patent on the rods
 if there not related.In the rod videos he says that the rod device puts out 18 watts,
in the japan version it puts out 300 watts,if this claim is true then your pulling massive
 amounts of power out of thin air,for the rod devices size thats better than any technology on earth,
don't you find odd he didn't patent it,unless hes hiding something.Yes I do speculate a lot,
when there are few facts you have too,I find it odd the doctor came up with two separate technolgies
that seemingly pull massive amounts of power out of  thin air and are not related,
and he doesn't know the source of the energy.

Heres something the doctor posted to a newsgroup


Question

This device appears to be related to the "elemental rod generator"
that was previously marketed in Japan by the ERR Company. In a
translation of the Japanese marketing documents, the inventor is
appears to also be a Dr. Schwartz from the Noah's Ark Research
Foundation. Are these units being offered for sale today?

Answer
Yes, this is related to the Rod Generator. That video was taken in
1988 by a friend of mine who came to visit me in the Philippines. His
video cam was stolen from his bag on his way back to the US so who
ever posted that video is still a mystery. Because he was planning on
showing the video to some people in the US we decided to say that one
rod contained 73 elements and the other 74. That was only to confuse
people so that they wouldn't know how really simple the rods were. I
considered my first Rod Generator a toy that needed a lot of research
and testing.

Back in 2002 my board of directors talked me into marketing small Rod
Generators to help poor countries. We pooled our money to set up a
small manufacturing plant to build our Rod Generators. We were
planning on selling them at cost to help do our part to save the world
form the Oil Companies. A week later we got a notice from the Dept. of
Energy in Japan that required the Rod Generator to be safety checked
by their laboratory before it could be sold in Japan. It took them
almost six months to test it before we received notice that it was
unsafe for public use. All the units that we had already manufactured
plus our jigs and dies had to be destroyed. That really hurt me and my
partners because we put a lot of money into that project. Since our
wife's told us not to put money into the Rod Generator we now have to
live with the old "I told you so". At least we learned a very
important lesson, I will never try to market one of my ERR generators.
When I have finished my ERR research and I fully understand how it
works, we plan on posting it on the internet. My board of directs and
myself are the ones that fund all of our Noah's Ark Research
facilities so we have no investors to account to.

Since I do a lot of lectures at different Universities we decided to
keep the big business interest and the people from the oil companies
from trying to figure out my new ERR. They like to send their people
to take close-up pictures so they can study my prototype but it won't
do them any good because we only use a small portion of the circuit
board that you see in the photos, the rest is just for show. We're
making sure that OPEC and the powerful companies don't patent my ERR
technology to keep it from the people.

markdansie

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2009, 07:48:57 AM »
the plot thickens,
I see that the rod generator was knocked back in japan...but I have to wonder about other countries. It would be interesting to know why it was considered unsafe. That initself might help us gain some understanding. That might be a question you can ask oneday Harvey if you have the opportunity.
It is the ERR device we are concerned with here. That leads to another question. If it is the intent to release all the details on the internet (that is good), then why not release what is known now?
I feel having many ppeople working on it would surely increase the speed it could be developed.
I am not in anyway trying to be negative here but these are questions that I feel need to be answered. However I of course respect any inventors intention.
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #167 on: August 19, 2009, 03:29:54 PM »
Does it matter from electrons are coming if they are all free electricity ?
IMHO Kapanadze is using simply a water pipe as electron source.
The main advance (?) of presented device is to use many small circuits instead of one large.
Isn't that any two metals generating a good quantity of free electrons could work ? Simply - electrochemical battery makes very small current without depleting metals. Somehow that current is a bias for a large energy source ,effectively converting that energy into electrical one , into current.
Any ideas ?

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #168 on: August 20, 2009, 12:08:01 AM »
It would be interesting to know why it was considered unsafe.

Dr. Schwartz reported, that it was unsafe e.g. during thunderstorms,
that it could arc over and then fires could start..

Maybe with better control circuits this could be prevented.. ? Who knows...

sigmaX

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Just in case...
« Reply #169 on: August 20, 2009, 02:26:58 PM »
When I see the first video, with the large white board behind, I cannot dismiss the resemblance with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIhPayFBE9c

Or the comercial product:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz5D5_Jzg-M

rods aside, magic is easier to produce nowadays (with easy explanations behind). I am not saying this thread is being wasted to some kind of con / joke, but then we need clear documentation to reproduce the phenomena for ourselves.

I am big enough to asess the risk involved on testing it and being responsible for any fire hazard due to a distant storm! And I live in a third world country, so no comitee will declare it unsafe and order me to destroy anything, if it works.

Regards!

SigmaX.

markdansie

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« Reply #170 on: August 21, 2009, 11:33:29 AM »
@SigmaX
some good points , I am soory to hear that you live in a third world country if you are refering to the USA.
There are some excellent thirdworld countries with more equality and better universal healthcare other than the USA.
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #171 on: August 21, 2009, 02:08:59 PM »
Found this on a russian site a while ago.
It`s a video demonstration of a smaller suitcase device that might help you guys figuring out some components.
Apologies if this has been posted or linked to here already.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=1b050bf84208b671e7ba8e3c6e11ce20e04e75f6e8ebb871

powerunlimited

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #172 on: September 23, 2009, 12:53:35 PM »
To Harvey:
Do you know the part number of the lamps used in the demo,I think it was said that they were 12 volt lamps,I located a 300 watt ,12 volt lamp, but no 800 watt ,12 volt lamps.

Thanks

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2009, 05:16:33 PM »
test

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2009, 11:53:17 PM »
I have not read through all the posts here.About the first 8 pages I guess but I noticed the lights get hot  here when the device is operated whereas Dr.Moray's lights stayed cold.Sooo,I guess cold electricity is not being produced by these magnetic panels?Triffid

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #175 on: December 16, 2009, 03:34:37 AM »
hrmmm... I wonder how they obtain the frequency to extract the energy from the ground I sure hope some of our ground or earth energy folks are looking into this it seems way too simplistic maybe real who knows ...

But from my observation the dress style looks a bit last century ...

Not to say folks don't dress like that today...

Also it looks as if it is a VHS dub just some simple observations but the more people laying claims the more people invest research into stuff like this...

if my grandfather walked out onto this video dressed as he normally is he would fit in.  there are old fashion people around that still dress like that :) and this looks like similiar stuff my grandfather has talked about before. he was a self taught electrician.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #176 on: January 03, 2010, 03:17:08 AM »
Hello Forum.
I just joined so that I could post this comment. I very often read threads here and find this site very informative and provacative...in a good way.
I stumbled upon this thread in a search of "Kapanadze Generator" and thought that this is what you are talking about.
I recently have taken on the task of building a Bedini type wheel system after reading and researching Ed Leedskalnin. Anyway, my path has taken me to a place now where I just wound a caduceus coil with the hopes of using a high frequency AC current from the wheel to put into the caduceus coil to study any scalar effects that may occur.
Today I was researching and came across the video on this thread of this machine. My first inclination was that this thing was making a high frequency current to pass through a caduceus coil and having a secondary coil to collect the resultant magnetic scalar waves. The scalar waves are not measureable with conventional equipement. The guy with this device also illudes to the fact that his coils are special...and won't show them...hmmm.
I am a couple of days from being able to find the time to try this. My thoughts initially were that Ed Leedskalnin did this and used the scalar waves to move his rocks at Coral Castle.
I think that the scalar waves are the reason that the Japanese didn't like it. Also, if two of these were next to each other and the beams crossed at 90 degrees there may be big trouble...this is how Scalar Energy Weapons work...a la Tesla.
Just a few thoughts

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« Reply #177 on: January 03, 2010, 06:25:16 AM »
The fact that the coils are on these plates is very interesting. The plates (the "pick-up") are on 1 plane in relation to the coils...this is exactly how scalar waves would be emitted from a cylindrical caduceus coil. I will guess that 1 plate layer type would be negative and the other positive.
Ed Leedskalnin wrote a book called "Magnetic Current" that explains that there are always 2 polarized forces running against each other...both in a right hand screw fashion.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/242432/Ed-Leedskalnin-Magnetic-Current-Illustrated

Here is a Perpetual Motion Holder that Ed designed...or maybe I should say the Masonic heritage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfBcYyr0fWI

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #178 on: January 03, 2010, 11:40:05 AM »
I just wanted to say, WOW, about this thread. Very very interesting stuff here and I read the whole thing in one shot. And I learned some interesting things about some interesting people here also. ;]

Powerunlimited

I found it interesting that the rods were magnetic when you put the ruler on them. Would you ascertain that each end of the rods were of opposite polarity as the ruler stuck to both rods? It still would not indicate if the rods were permanent  mags or not, they could be electro induced.

Magluvin

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #179 on: January 03, 2010, 12:00:34 PM »
Hi guys, this is just my idea of how ERR may work in spirit of trying to help,
Appologies to Dr Schwartz for errors as I don't really know the whole story.
 
I believe the ERR device is a magnifier just like a curved magnifying glass lens or more closely like a Fresnel lens.  Instead of light being bent inward toward the focal point it works to bend EM waves inward toward it's focal point.

Not only this, it does a clever frequency shift by beating (heterodyning) incoming ambient energy frequencies with an internal voltage tuned generator frequency.  The frequency difference a constant frequency band(f in - f local) appears across both halves of the waveguide which houses the left and right coils.

The slots or guides are run in transverse electric mode (TE) with voltage vertical across the narrow dimension of the slot and magnetic field sideways. Just like an aperture antenna often used in microwave.

The coils & slots are arranged in pairs 180 degrees out of phase with each other, when one side goes positive the other goes negative.
The outer width measured across the two slots defines a full wavelength at the highest frequency of the guides passband without mode changing.
 
The thickness of the aluminum slab which the slot is cut from defines the lowest frequency of the guide pass band.

The aluminum outer panel has a negative dielectric response to incoming EM radiation. This means the voltage part of the incoming field gets shifted in relation to the magnetic part of the field distorting its normal electric to magnetic phase relationship.
To bend the incoming wave completely just like a thick piece of glass or the surface of some water. We have to bend both the electric and the magnetic part of the wave.
When the advancing distorted wavefront appears on the inside of the aluminum  it meets the Bismuth surface. Now Bismuth is diamagnetic it exhibits both Hall effect and an extremely non linear permeabilty to magnetic fields.

The coils in the guide slots underneath the Bismuth strobe the Bismuth surface magnetically.

Because the Bismuth layer is very thin compared to the incoming frequencies wavelength and because it's diamagnetic it has a negative response to magnetic fields.  This bends the magnetic part of the incoming waves field.

The response from the Bismuth is able to act as a catalyst mobilising the atoms in the aluminum plate causing it to bulge and compress across it's surface making it act like a fresnel type lens to incoming EM radiation.
 Causing it to behave like a hyper efficient lens literally BEAMING energy to the guide slots below.
To get extra bending toward the focal point in the centre of the guide cavity, extra layers of aluminum & bismuth can be added. Just like stacking lenses in a telescope or multi coating our spectacles (with metalic oxides).

The strobing of the non linear Bismuth also has another consequence.
When 2 frequencies are combined in something linear like a resistor we just get the same two frequencies out again they superimpose but don't mix as can be seen on a scope.

When 2 frequencies are combined in something non linear like our human ear or a piece of Bismuth or a semiconductor. We get sum and difference frequencies produced as well as the original frequencies.

The guide slots are tuned to pick off the difference frequency or narrower range of difference frequencies. The broader the bandwidth the higher the power available to us (from Boltzmans).

From here I am less sure, it may be .....from Dr Schwarts drawings.
Each turn of each coil on the rods themselves look like short circuit to the advancing RF wavefront down the guide. Simply because of the high stray capacitance at the start and finish of each turn & perhaps by the special winding technique of each turn. 
Anyhow suffice to say there's a negative electric permittivity from the ferrite in the rod itself and a negative magnetic permeability from the special coil design.

When you drop a stone in a pond the waves radiate outward with exponentially diminishing amplitude.
With man made "Metamaterials" assembled as the genuis of Dr Schwarz has done it is possible to achieve the opposite.
 
ie Collect EM waves and concentrate them, just like a magnifying glass a microwave dish or a Yagi antenna does.

How the output becomes DC with out a rectifier? Don't really know only seen one paper on this concerning diffraction grating effects & can't understand it yet.


Thanks to
Dr Schwartsz for the info you kindly provided to the Yahoo Noahs Ark Group files. 
to BeanangelTreon On YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9cFOqIDgqc
to Mr Thomas Henry Hand of Duke University for his pdf on tuneable metamaterials.

Gerry