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Author Topic: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps  (Read 160612 times)

Offline Harvey

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2009, 02:27:45 AM »
Let's see: the 6-rod in the plastic case appears in the Japanese brochure for Schwartz's ERR Corp. And it is featured at the top of Sterling's page on these devices. And I do recall seeing it on a NARF page, although the link doesn't work for me now. But OK, if you want to imply that I am not correct in associating Schwartz with the rods device, that's your prerogative. It's wrong, of course, but you have that privilege.

And if you are implying that I have been deliberately distracted to prevent me from applying my vaunted debunking powers and enormous intellect to projects like Schwartz's, then you've been reading Rosemary's verbiage for far too long.

There is absolutely no doubt that Dr. Schwartz was involved in the original video and subsequent attempts at manufacturing. There is also no doubt in my mind that I actually saw one of those 2 rod plastic devices here in the states at the swap meet, which means they were manufactured by some entity. It is also clear, that this technology has be 'binned' as you say. If anyone else is able to recreate them and market them, I hope the best for you - but the research shows them not to be cost effective.

I have to say, from first hand involvement with both individuals, TK and Dr. Schwartz, that TK encouraged hundreds of dollars to be spent on a known hoax where as Dr. Schwartz has not. If I had to make a character assessment between the two, TK just wouldn't measure up. Dr. Schwartz has been working toward giving the world access to better technology, while TK has been working hard at tearing it down.

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ETA: Your 'enormous intellect' can no doubt discern that I am referring to your career and what you probably would have been involved with had we not routed you in another direction so many years ago.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2009, 02:35:07 AM »
I would be willing to bet that no matter what energy has to come from somewhere so I do not believe that it will be created overunity the Co Efficient is simply a number that we derive in instances where we can not explain where the extra energy is extracted from ...

I believe the way to energy freedom is finding other sources and increasing ouput of current models.
(Most likely the later first.)

Oddly though there is a little of tree shaking going on in the ZPE field ... Coincidence maybe IDK but anyways energy is everything and everything is energy. Not destroyed and not created. The alpha and omega so to speak.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2009, 02:42:18 AM »
Alpha and omega.

Zpe/quantum/energy from the vaccum/cavitys, is without beginning and is without end..the universe has already existed forever ..and it will recycle it's self endlessly and it is a miracle that gives more out than in..that only god him self knows.

Zpe/quantum/energy from the vaccum/cavitys...is the backbone of the universe and acts as a catalyst.

Must faster than the speed of like...more like 0 seconds no matter the distance and gets faster and faster.

http://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience i had a conversation with this guy...and it smells of quantum to me.

It's goes in and out of existance http://sites.google.com/site/appliedbiophysicsresearch/ .

Sorry but.

Where is the Void? I know. The Void* is inside and outside everything. You, right now even while you live, are always inside and outside the Void simultaneously. You don't have to go anywhere or die to get there. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components.

* The Force - JAH.
King of kings' Bible - Thomas 1:6 But the Kingdom is within you and it is without you.
1:7 If you will know yourselves, then you will be known and you will know that you are the sons of the Living Father.
1:8 But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero-point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately*. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

* How could a finite object measure infinity? How can infinity be zero, except in man's illogic? - JAH.

What mystics call the Void is not a void. It is so full of energy*, a different kind of energy that has created everything that we are. Everything since the (supposed - JAH) Big Bang is vibration, from the first Word, which is the first vibration.

* The Force - JAH.
http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

So creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable, in an ongoing, infinite exploration through every one of us. Through every piece of hair on your head, through every leaf on every tree, through every atom, God is exploring God's Self, the great "I am". I began to see that everything that is, is part of God, literally, you, me. Everything is part of the Great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is possible because wherever you are, there is God, the center of the universe. Wherever any atom is, there is God in that atom, and God in the Void.

As I was exploring the Void and all the Yugas or creations, I was completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I discovered that creation is about Absolute Pure Consciousness, or God, coming into the Experience of Life as we know it. Godhead is about more than Life and Death. Therefore there is even more than Life and Death to experience in the Universe!
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

I was in the Void and I was aware of everything that had ever been created. It was like I was seeing through God's eyes. I had become part of God. Suddenly I wasn't me anymore. The only thing I can say, I was looking through God's eyes. And suddenly I knew why every atom was, and I could see everything. The interesting point was that I went into the Void, I came back with this understanding that God is not there. God is here. That's what it is all about.
http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

So this constant search of the human race to go out and find God ... God gave everything to us, everything is here - this is where we find Him.

When I realized this, I was finished with the Void, and wanted to return to this creation, or Yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do. Then I suddenly came back through the second Light, hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness back through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The super clusters of galaxies came through me with even more insights.

I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole. Black holes are the great processors or recyclers of the Universe. Do you know what is on the other side of a Black Hole? We are; our galaxy; which has been reprocessed from another Universe. In its total energy configuration, the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. Every sub-atom, atom, star, planet, even consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle. Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the Light of God; everything is very intelligently formed.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2009, 02:42:18 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2009, 03:09:18 AM »
When will this unit go on sale in the philipines?


If i read good things about it..on the internet..think i'll order one from the philipines if i could.

Oh wait silly me it will never be on the market system.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2009, 03:26:52 AM »
My goodness, Harvey, I see you are indeed taking a page from Ainslie's book. Innuendo without support, ad hominem abusive argumentation, straw men, and ill-conceived jumping to conclusions, all in one short post. I think you should refresh your beverage, you've clearly drunk that one dry.

Please provide a link to where TK has, as you accuse, encouraged anyone to spend hundreds of dollars on a known hoax. If you are referring to the "al" character, you will find, I believe, that he ALWAYS told people not to spend anything they couldn't well afford, and that there was nothing unusual about his device anyway, and absolutely never did he claim in any way that "free energy" was involved. In fact, IIRC, he even sent out parts on his own dime to aid the builders in their quest. Has Schwartz done anything like that? No.
If you can provide evidence otherwise, let's see it.

And as far as surreptitiously influencing my career goes, you are spinning fantasy. My privileges and problems are my own doing, and if I seriously thought that you or anyone else was in any way manipulating me, I would be compelled to take action. But I'm not that paranoid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29JewlGsYxs

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2009, 04:48:23 AM »
My goodness, Harvey, I see you are indeed taking a page from Ainslie's book. Innuendo without support, ad hominem abusive argumentation, straw men, and ill-conceived jumping to conclusions, all in one short post. I think you should refresh your beverage, you've clearly drunk that one dry.

Please provide a link to where TK has, as you accuse, encouraged anyone to spend hundreds of dollars on a known hoax. If you are referring to the "al" character, you will find, I believe, that he ALWAYS told people not to spend anything they couldn't well afford, and that there was nothing unusual about his device anyway, and absolutely never did he claim in any way that "free energy" was involved. In fact, IIRC, he even sent out parts on his own dime to aid the builders in their quest. Has Schwartz done anything like that? No.
If you can provide evidence otherwise, let's see it.

And as far as surreptitiously influencing my career goes, you are spinning fantasy. My privileges and problems are my own doing, and if I seriously thought that you or anyone else was in any way manipulating me, I would be compelled to take action. But I'm not that paranoid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29JewlGsYxs

You knew the WhiPMag was powered and you withheld that information even when you knew Madprof was spending hundreds of dollars trying to replicate the results to substantiate your claims that it ran for 7 hours. Then, instead of just coming clean and telling everyone the unit was powered, you even perpetuated the construction of it by assisting in getting correct dimension and supplying the spindles to us. Your continued exclusion of the fact that you did motorize the OCMPMM is a sign of untruthfulness. That being said, I am able to see the larger picture and both the lessons and research involved. Most of those involved have no regrets for having spent the money, I know I don't. And most of us recognize what you are and why you do what you do. Even so, I place Dr. Schwartz above you as far as social trustworthiness and forthrightness go. You will always hide your real self and real motives. He places his picture on the group for all to see, and only isolates himself for privacy to do work and out of concern for his family. You could still redeem yourself you know, the fellows at FizzX are waiting for you to confirm that my analysis was correct.

Game Over.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2009, 05:12:04 AM »
@ tell me Tk
do you not respond to any of my posts because you feel I am intellectually not up to it. or is there another reason. I am very thick skinned.
i have found over many years that everyone is valuable and I am at home talking to would be inventors in a tin shed or lobbying a senator.
I may appear to be a simpleton to many, but that is my choice. However I find it a common courtesy to respond.
I do know about some of your pranks in the past ..and in at least one case alerted others to the follie. However I do have respect for you intellect.
Kind regards
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2009, 05:13:55 AM »

@Harvey:
Once again, you are mistaken. Ask Babcat, he knows the truth.
I am afraid your analysis is, at best, incomplete, if not totally incorrect. The game isn't over, because you are now out on a couple of limbs that surely will not support real weight, and you will see, soon enough.
Your evident collusion with Schwartz and that curious coincidence with the Ainslie parts supplier indicates to me that the "degrees of separation" are a bit too few where you are concerned, certainly. I'm not sure what your motives are but they seem increasingly sinister to me.

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« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2009, 05:16:36 AM »
@ tell me Tk
do you not respond to any of my posts because you feel I am intellectually not up to it. or is there another reason. I am very thick skinned.
i have found over many years that everyone is valuable and I am at home talking to would be inventors in a tin shed or lobbying a senator.
I may appear to be a simpleton to many, but that is my choice. However I find it a common courtesy to respond.
I do know about some of your pranks in the past ..and in at least one case alerted others to the follie. However I do have respect for you intellect.
Kind regards
Mark
I don't really see anything that I need to respond to, sorry. I don't think you are a simpleton at all, wherever did you get that idea?
And you really should be certain of your target, before you loose any arrows.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2009, 05:38:45 AM »
@Tk,
I wasnt actually firing any arrows, sorry I expressed myself in a way you thought that.
I remember back in the days when I was a NEC member alerting Sterling and the NEC about your device and video's. You were very clever in your wording, but your intent was clear to me from the start that you wanted to teach people a broader lesson, whilst still maintaining some belief that their may be some potential. I found it ironic that Sterling defended you with a vengence and yet embraced Mylow with such passion to the point of putting himself at financial risk and damaging the NEC (lots of resignations followed mine...shame really they are a good group)
Now in the case of Dr Schwartz, I think we can agree the rods ..whoever developed or promoted them is a dead duck. They were never overunity devices..but I susspect we all know how they really worked (just speculation on my part)
However with his new ERR it did start me on investigating left hand materials. Some interesting possabilities there.
At this stage I will be specific and will make it easy as a multiple choice question to see what your thoughts are.
1. The ERR is a hoax powered by a hidden battery, cap or perhaps some rod's
2. There could be something to ERR left field materials
3. The arrangements of the plates allow them to act as a capacitor or battery that can store a few hundreds w/h for short demonstrations
4. You have issues with Dr Schartz past and poor choice in associates (Mr Lee)
5. You have better things to do with your time.

You are very good at semantics, and many other things.
Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2009, 08:59:28 AM »
Prior work by the same inventor seems very important to me.
Mylow may work another couple of years, with real determination, on a simple permanent magnet motor. Will we believe him when he claims that again?
With Schwarz having prior work, it is quite vital to know of the relevance of those rods. Who knows, he may have sold the rights, only to be further explored (by the buyer or even Schwarz himself) after a contracted amount of years. But, he can come up with new things. If the rods were real, this will likely also be.

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Re: Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps
« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2009, 11:14:33 AM »
I posted in the solar area but I think it is due to be said here. I was reading of this new idea invented in I believe Canada. It is a solar panel with higher output than the silicon style. It uses various sprayed layers of elements and it produces electricity. Is this not left handed materials at work? One of the companies I saw was NanoSolar. Google it up. I think there are many combinations of materials to work with this idea. Why be disproving the nanotechnology when we could rationalize possible materials and get building? Thanks.

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« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2009, 02:32:46 PM »
@ Cloxxki
You make a good point. I do think however it needs to be independently tested or validated. Why show a video at all at this stage?
However I guess we will have to be patient and work to their schedule.
Anything we conclude at this stage would be speculation, however I will err on the side of caution as yhe onus is on the claim being made.
I do not believe this is overunity but if it does work will be fully explainable by conventional physics.
However there are a lot of red flags, but we do have a witness at least, just not enough test data.
Mark

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« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2009, 04:33:43 PM »
Mark asked:

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1. The ERR is a hoax powered by a hidden battery, cap or perhaps some rod's
2. There could be something to ERR left field materials
3. The arrangements of the plates allow them to act as a capacitor or battery that can store a few hundreds w/h for short demonstrations
4. You have issues with Dr Schartz past and poor choice in associates (Mr Lee)
5. You have better things to do with your time.

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Let's see...
1) Probably. I think that's got to be the default assumption until Harvey or someone else who knows which end of a probe gets plugged in where gets to take a closer look.
2) Sure. I don't know enough about the theory but you've got to ask yourself if it is consistent with what we pretty much do know about other stuff.
3) Almost certainly not.
4) I don't know Schwartz from Noah, but I would like to know what his doctorate is in and where he got it from, and the topic of his dissertation, and who his thesis advisor was. If he's a medical doctor, what is his specialty and how long has he been practicing? All of these are perfectly legitimate questions for anyone who calls themselves "Doctor" and expects others to do the same.
As far as his association with Dennis Lee goes, I am only aware of that through the links on the site I linked above. I seriously doubt that anyone but a fool would associate with Lee at this point.
5) That's probably true. Like I said earlier, the only thing that even remotely interested me about this thing was when Harvey started talking about seeing it in person. I have had a lot of respect for Harvey, so I perked up and started paying attention. But I think I've learned enough to satisfy me for a while--both about ERR and NARF, and about Harvey as well.

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« Reply #119 on: August 11, 2009, 05:46:24 PM »
With all the Tesla wireless energy transmission experiments going on (Dr. Stiffler seems to lead the pack here), I can well imagine such plates to be used as resonators. I'll admit this idea comes from the Steven Marks discussions, where it has been suggested that perhaps he had the one replication, but was presenting it as the other.

Somehow all this plate business reminds me of the new loudspeaker technology, which pretty much consists of a thin square plate rather than a usual round speaker with acoustic box, and the plate can be snipe-aimed at the desired destination of the sound. An acoustic laser, if you will, I just made that up.

 

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