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Author Topic: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts  (Read 418497 times)

Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #555 on: September 24, 2020, 08:15:59 PM »
Displacement current. He probably thought it was obvious to most.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #556 on: September 24, 2020, 09:45:23 PM »
Few years back i had huge interest in this Don's device, sadly he never revealed how exactly he interrupted the field between two attracting magnets without rotor getting stuck.

Host in the video says it's enough to sprinkle little bit of neodymium dust on a vinyl record which is of course not true.


What has to be accomplished is to make the reluctance between the two generator magnets greater than the reluctance between the two poles of a single generator magnet. Generally this requires a relatively large area for the ‘splitting’ surface. This will ‘split’ the magnetic field formed by the two generator magnets together and each magnet will have its own field.

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I tried placing 1cm thick neodymiums between bigger neodymiums it had no effect on the attraction of the two big magnets even when placed in opposition to them.

If the thin magnet in between has a face area not much bigger than the generator magnets, its field will be surrounded by the field of the bigger magnets without interrupting their combined field. It may distort the larger field though.

You can demonstrate this by taking a small magnet and pushing it against a larger repelling magnet. When the small magnet gets close it will suddenly attract to the center of the larger one.

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Offline nix85

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #557 on: September 24, 2020, 11:13:01 PM »

What has to be accomplished is to make the reluctance between the two generator magnets greater than the reluctance between the two poles of a single generator magnet. Generally this requires a relatively large area for the ‘splitting’ surface. This will ‘split’ the magnetic field formed by the two generator magnets together and each magnet will have its own field.

No, it has to be the same so prime mover sees no difference.

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If the thin magnet in between has a face area not much bigger than the generator magnets, its field will be surrounded by the field of the bigger magnets without interrupting their combined field. It may distort the larger field though.

You can demonstrate this by taking a small magnet and pushing it against a larger repelling magnet. When the small magnet gets close it will suddenly attract to the center of the larger one.

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Of course, small magnet can be placed in the center of the bigger magnet north to north and they will attract cause outer field of the smaller magnet will be aligned with central field of the bigger one.

But it will not only distort the bigger feild, it will make it weaker to a small degree. They did precise measurements on this. Also big magnet can easily re-magnetize the smaller one, turn N into S but it also loses some of it's power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foOmZcl-MsA

Like i said, i played with big neodymium cylinders 4cm x 2cm and placed many 1cm neodymium cubes between them in all possible ways, zero perceptible shielding.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #558 on: September 24, 2020, 11:43:40 PM »
Interesting how repelling of same poles can be perfectly neutralized by piece of iron of exact thickness, so precisely that they stand few mm from the iron on each side and feel neither attracted nor repelled to/from iron or each other. One of approaches.


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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #560 on: September 25, 2020, 01:31:48 AM »
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Offline NdaClouDzzz

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #561 on: September 25, 2020, 03:51:07 AM »
Nothing to add, but thank you for your continued efforts👍👍👍👍👍

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #562 on: September 25, 2020, 09:55:41 AM »
Random fact: DC motor is self-regulating due to backEMF, as speed increases backEMF increases and reduces the input current until forces balance.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #563 on: September 25, 2020, 11:12:11 AM »
I had this idea to pulse high inductance coil with short square pulse, so short virtually no current gets through the coil and then collect the backEMF that develops across the coil but as you can see if you put diode like that to prevent source current bypassing the coil, that diode also blocks the backEMF from the coil which is exact opposite of the source voltage.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #564 on: September 25, 2020, 12:05:50 PM »
In context of picture above, question is how exactly did Newman, Flynn and Bedini "capture backEMF".

If you let current flow through the coil and then capture the collapsing field backEMF you got yourself a standard boost step up converter. Few posts back i said i believe collapsing field is source of energy, well yea, magnetic field in general is, but how you capture it is essential. Standard boost converter is surely no OU.

I think it's better to capture the first backEMF so that no current from the source ever gets through the coil.

In pure inductive circuit..

Offline Cadman

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #565 on: September 25, 2020, 03:37:42 PM »
No, it has to be the same so prime mover sees no difference.....

Maybe we are not understanding each other, but if the reluctance between the two generating magnets never changes, and thus the combined field never changes, then how do you expect them to generate anything?

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PS We are talking about Don Smiths generator with 16 opposing coils and a rotating field disrupter disk aren't we?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #566 on: September 25, 2020, 03:51:59 PM »
Maybe we are not understanding each other, but if the reluctance between the two generating magnets never changes, and thus the combined field never changes, then how do you expect them to generate anything?

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PS We are talking about Don Smiths generator with 16 opposing coils and a rotating field disrupter disk aren't we?

We clearly did not understand each other. OFC magnetic field has to change for induction to happen (unless we are talking Farraday's disc but that's another thing).

All i am saying is that from perspective of a prime mover (little motor) it must not see any difference when rotor is passing between the magnets and outside of them.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #567 on: September 25, 2020, 04:01:01 PM »
Ah, yes, agreed!

Material of the separator is crucial.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #568 on: September 25, 2020, 04:14:42 PM »
Ah, yes, agreed!

Material of the separator is crucial.

Regards

Yea, i got that all his sweet pictures, but they are misleading. It can NOT work by spraying a bit of neodymium dust on a vinyl record or a bismuth cross.

He never revealed any real solution just gave some inspiring directives.

Like i said magnetic field passes through everything even opposing magnetic field. Unless you got magic ceramic like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FABlYE9Vhc

It takes great precision and design to achieve that prime mover sees no difference as rotor passes through and blocks the magnetic field and as it leaves it.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #569 on: September 25, 2020, 05:04:39 PM »
Note that he says “layers of conducting material “. I take this as layers of powdered metal or something similar, sprayed or sprinkled on a non conducting separator, separated with layers of neodymium or similar. He might have even used wire screen.

The point being, I think he was trying to use layers of small scattered eddy currents in random directions as the field disrupter. There are more advanced materials now days, like Giron & Mumetal, but maybe his method worked too.

This gizmo is high on my bucket list.

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