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Offline forest

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #420 on: March 31, 2010, 05:59:03 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D


Yes! All those devices are related to each other. Very good comment!
Btw : What is  Don Smith talking about in his video ? What is dynode ?

P.S.
I have a  rebus for you  ::) :
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8817/supressione.jpg

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #421 on: April 01, 2010, 05:54:58 AM »
Forrest,
That section was when Don was talking about the many devices that allready have the electron amplification working in them. 
Here is the wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynode

Cool part.

Zane

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #422 on: April 01, 2010, 06:36:13 PM »
Hello Commuter,

I see you just begun your experimental carreer and keep searching... good. Keep learning!

By the way as i see it, the Dynode works on the well known avalance effect that electrons do create in a electric field. Whether or not this procedure is OU is another subject of discussion.

Actually, i was reviewing Patrick's kelly "noob" FE concept machines and one simple one attributed to N. Tesla claims a potential OU by this effect. http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt11.html

Hard to believe it, yet it very simple design and odd approach makes you wonder...
By no means i want to distract you from your experiments. In any way, i will replicate that and i will report as usual.

Salutes,

Offline h2ocommuter

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #423 on: April 05, 2010, 02:57:04 AM »
@ Bar,
I am glad you wrote, That seems like a somewhat easy device to build.  I will put my hand to it and see what I can come up with.
I am getting a consistant spark with the plasma globe that I will use to generate the charged ions and respectively draw them to the electrodes. I will use copper for pos. and aluminum for neg.
Following that same vein, I will use the plasma globe to supply the magnetic fields also.

Zane

Offline xenomorphlabs

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #424 on: April 16, 2010, 05:09:43 AM »
@h2ocommuter:
Looking forward to you doing that.
I am currently putting together Smith´s dipole version.
Too provoking is Smith´s statement that this is supposed to produce 100 KW!
 
If he is right, then i guess soon the plasma globe manufacturers will have to add the lines to their product manuals : "Warning, don´t place the plasma globe next to copper and aluminum objects or you will get killed !" ;D

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #425 on: April 28, 2010, 05:17:52 AM »
@h2ocommuter

Have you ever wrapped a few turns of insulated copper around your iron grounding rod to see what you could see?

Thanks.

nap

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #426 on: April 28, 2010, 07:22:23 AM »
@Bar,
I am glad you gave me some leeway, I am finding so many variables it would not be right for me to  stray from my pointed thoughts and testing at this stage. I should stay and not become distracted. there is more happening in my circuit than I previously understood.  Concider me waylaid on the Ion spark related accumulation process.

@Xeno,
I am really happy someone is trying that setup. I trust  you will allow my concession on the Ion accumulation project as well. I would like to brainstorm with you about the Cap design for your plasma tube first.  If you are willing to.

@ Slapper,
My grounding rod is mild steel and is wrapped with bare copper, "a normal ground rod".
I can look at your suggestion and do some testing. I am not too sure what I am looking for by your prompt. I am afraid I am not up to speed with the propagation speed and high harmonic tuning yet as you may not have gathered. This would be just a bit over my head at this point.

Mod: My reasoning,
I very happily have found three maybe four different types of sparks that would allow many different test to be done with the Ion project. That being said, I found one in particular that has the energy of the block wall,"I believe", so that is allowing my mind to flourish and better conceive the workings of the DS project.
These discoveries would propell my directions into using a spherical type spark gap like Tesla designed to aggressively quench the sparks and take the abruptive discharges into a much higher freq. level.
 I am not willing yet to go this way, I am testing various Capacitance  parameters to see what kind of frequency levels I can achieve using this method. With the various types of sparks and finding the block wall in my circuitry I have my hands full in this discovery process.

If I truly have found the Block wall and how to controle it, I should be much closer to the goal line.

God Bless and God Speed to all.

h2ocommuter
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 08:02:03 AM by h2ocommuter »

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #427 on: April 28, 2010, 08:04:49 AM »
@ Slapper,
My grounding rod is mild steel and is wrapped with bare copper, "a normal ground rod".
I can look at your suggestion and do some testing. I am not too sure what I am looking for by your prompt. I am afraid I am not up to speed with the propagation speed and high harmonic tuning yet as you may not have gathered. This would be just a bit over my head at this point.

No biggie. I'd test myself as soon as I find my material. I know I've got a steel rod around here somewhere.

I'd start with about 4 turns of some of that insulated solid copper electrical wire. Around 12 to 16 gauge?
Tack a neon bulb across the coil and allow for the coil to slide on the rod for tuning as well as perhaps some coil spreading. The position and offset of your spark gaps may also propagate different wavelengths.

But to be honest I have no clue what you will get out of this.

Be carefull and take care.

nap

Offline kurtnorway

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #428 on: June 14, 2010, 11:00:08 PM »
Everyone trying to replicate Don Smith, or any Tesla related technology, remember, they have all in common the high RF stuff, even Steven Mark I think has some sort of HF/RF in it.
Thus we should look at the radio technology and learn from there first before we jump into experimenting with this stuff.
Just tuning an antenna the old way, it takes some studying and training, but when first got this fundamental training and understanding, than we can take the next step and dig into that controversial resonance stuff.
When Don Smith explain, "it has all to do with firstly and mostly Resonance at high frequence", which means tuning, in addition there are involved high voltage and presumable high current. This is tricky for even an educated and trained radio expert.
In addition we have all the unknown, controversy and so forth, a lot of it not in any book of conventional teaching.

So, it I guess everything boils down to whether you believe or not. My advice for those who believe and try replicate this stuff, start study Radio theory.
By the way, I am a believer and I would love to do the experiments, just don't have the time or capability, have studied some radio stuff fore beginners, even that was heavy stuff for me.
Good luck to all.   

Offline h2ocommuter

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #429 on: June 15, 2010, 12:03:55 AM »
100% agree.

I am scooting through all my experiments with luck and determination in hand.
Other than that I am shooting in the DARk.
I am buying everything and anything to get to the tuning of resonant behavior in my circuitry.

NT associated everything into resonance!
He first did calculations then applied the electrical component to the device.
His next steps seemed to refine these calculations for the new various information these devices allowed an understanding to.
This is the way I see it.

Good luck
Zane

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #430 on: June 29, 2010, 10:22:18 AM »
Today i remade my Primary coil, i increased the diameter to just fit inside my secondary coil and i managed to use a full quarter wire length of the secondary in just over 5.5 turns so i should now have a pretty close match with regard to the wire length relationships, i will try resonating it tomorrow with caps.

Now in one of Don's videos he states that some Neon Transformers printed ratings show OU

Poynt99 stated to me this may not be the case, so i looked into this a little below are the specs of a Ventex NPS-12D10

You will notice at the bottom of the specs it has ** and says 'Equivalent brightness of electromagnetic transformer' so the print on the label is only an equivalent rating compared to a conventional transformer as opposed to this switched mode version which has an oscillating output of 20kHz, and therefore is not a true representation of power output from the module.

Another thing that occurred to me is that in the device i am trying to replicate don uses a dimmer to vary the 120VAC feeding the neon transformer, now i am not so sure this would work well with a switched mode psu based neon supply, it certainly wouldn't give a linear variation of the HV output and would probably cutout totally once a certain voltage is reached, in fact if the switched psu did it's job i would have thought it would either maintain regulation or cutout totally.

I am now wondering did he even power this up at some point OUCH.

Peter


Specifications     
Input Voltage:    12 VDC (±10%)
Input Current:    1000 mA (Max)
Driving Distance*:    
Neon:    1-10 ft, (0-3 m)
Mercury:    1-12 ft, (0-3.7 m)
Output Voltage:    3000V
Output Current**:    15 mA
Frequency:    20 kHz ( ± )
Operating Temp:    0° to 104°F
(-18° to 40°C)
Dimensions    
Length:    3.0 in. (76.20 mm)
Width:    1.75 in. (44.45 mm)
Height:    1.25 in. (31.75 mm)
Mounting:    2.6 in. (66.04 mm)
Weight:    6.0 oz. (158.0 gr)
12 VDC Primary Leads:    8 in. (45.72 cm) wo/jack
Secondary GTO Leads:    18 in. (45.7 cm)

* Based on standard 12mm tube. Deduct one foot from driving footages for each pair of electrodes.

** Equivalent brightness of electromagnetic transformer

Hi,

Please send me the coils (L1 & L2) detail (yo5tx@yahoo.com), exact diameter, lengths, wire, etc. I want to see exact natural resonant freq.

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #431 on: June 29, 2010, 11:27:17 PM »

Offline luishan

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #432 on: October 19, 2010, 09:27:51 PM »
Anybody more progress information about the Don Smith device ?

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #433 on: November 06, 2010, 03:00:19 AM »
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but the user armagedo0on has also done some experiments which have very close similarities to Don's devices. (Check out all his videos btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA87r58iCXo
The video speaks for itself, and it is Don's approach to the "normal" Tesla coil, with the primary moved into the center of the secondary. I do not believe the secondary is reverse winded from the middle though.

I'm just thinking if he had put a much higher voltage into that, he could have gone from miliwats into kilowats....

Replications are the key here of course, not talk, so I hope I will be able to supply the knowledge base with something as well with time....
Julian

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Re: Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts
« Reply #434 on: November 06, 2010, 03:45:38 AM »
Check it out here. One person partially succeed to replicate the device.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3.125

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YNGrhwf9Yk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ela0XmK4YKg

The circuit diagram for above set up.