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Author Topic: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER  (Read 363780 times)

Offline gsmsslsb

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #315 on: March 01, 2012, 06:10:45 AM »
I just had a thought when I wrote the report above and went back up to the bench.
I tested some more and when adding the capacitance in paralell with the primary the input amperage goes right down to 60 ma and the out put power does not change.
I am still drawing a lot less output than input power so way under unity but I thought of the Kwang jeek lee patent.
He says that the main issue in his system is to stop the output impedence reflecting back to the input and I am thinking I may have this happening.
So I will investigat more about running the primary at resonance.
I would really like a circuit that will osscilate the primary of a transformer at resonance.
I have a capacitor box so I can add or remove capacitance to keep the frequence in a range where the transformer can work but I need a  simple circuit that will find the resonant frequency of the primary and latch into it.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #315 on: March 01, 2012, 06:10:45 AM »

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #316 on: March 08, 2012, 04:44:47 AM »
I just had a thought when I wrote the report above and went back up to the bench.
I tested some more and when adding the capacitance in paralell with the primary the input amperage goes right down to 60 ma and the out put power does not change.
I am still drawing a lot less output than input power so way under unity but I thought of the Kwang jeek lee patent.
He says that the main issue in his system is to stop the output impedence reflecting back to the input and I am thinking I may have this happening.
So I will investigat more about running the primary at resonance.
I would really like a circuit that will osscilate the primary of a transformer at resonance.
I have a capacitor box so I can add or remove capacitance to keep the frequence in a range where the transformer can work but I need a  simple circuit that will find the resonant frequency of the primary and latch into it.

 Hello gsmsslsb,
 
   I really enjoy what you are doing.
 
   Actually, I have been wanting to experiment with the 3 Phase AC line Reactor.
 
   I have some very large magnets purchased from salvage.  They came out of an old government computer system. (old hard drive or tape drive?)
 
  Attached, are some picture of these magnets.  Not sure what they are made of,  but they will break and flake easily if allowed to smack together.
 
  However, these magnets are very powerful.  It's a bit scary to handle them.  They already bit one of my fingers.
 
  Handling these magnets for any length of time will make a person dizzy, then nauseous.  I dare not put these magnets too close to my brain.
 
  Anyway, I was thinking slapping two of these magnets onto the top and bottom of a 3 Phase AC Line Reactor.
 
  Its' time to start shopping for a 7" wide Reactor.
 
   What I am hoping for with this project is to increase the run time of a 500 Watt electric scooter.
 
   Although I know basic electronics, I am not too proud to admit that I need help.
 
   Here's my first question.  The scooter is 500 watts, it runs on two 12 volt batteries.
  So, this means it pulls 20 or so Amps, lets say 40 amps to give it a buffer and spike buffer.
 
   What 3 Phase AC Line Reactor amperage rating should I buy? They are sold from 2 - 1000 amp ratings.
 
    The Reactors are also sold according to an 'impedance' rating. They are typically sold with a 2.4 - 10 rating.
   Which impedance rating do I want?
 
  EVERYONE'S Input and Advice appreciated, and welcomed.
 
 gsmsslsb...  Keep up the good work... please continue to post your results.
 
 Will do the same.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #317 on: March 08, 2012, 04:50:26 AM »

 I will also need help in the future with changing AC to DC and Vice-Versa for this project.


   You guys dream this stuff, so I know I'm in the right place.



 

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #317 on: March 08, 2012, 04:50:26 AM »
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Offline FreqShift

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #318 on: March 08, 2012, 08:59:05 AM »
Is this the result?


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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #319 on: July 22, 2012, 12:42:01 PM »

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #319 on: July 22, 2012, 12:42:01 PM »
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Offline DWP

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #320 on: April 23, 2013, 06:51:30 PM »
I have started a new thread in an attempt to better understand the BiTT
http://www.overunity.com/13455/does-the-bitt-transformer-of-thane-heins-have-those-limitations/

Offline stoyan_

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #321 on: October 18, 2013, 11:26:14 AM »
Hello everybody !
Please see the attached file , containing descripton of idea for an overunity transformer.
Please feel invited to comment it .
Since I don't have enough funds to build and test it if someone is thinking that the idea is promising it will be fantastic to test it and to post the results.
Many thanks in advance.
I am sorry for posting my idea under a different topic , but I needed my idea to be seen
drom as many as possible members.

Its a modification of Bitt transformer , so lets call it MBitt , where M stands for modified.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #321 on: October 18, 2013, 11:26:14 AM »
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Offline stoyan_

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #322 on: October 18, 2013, 11:26:52 AM »
Also .pdf version of the description.

Offline MenofFather

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #323 on: October 18, 2013, 11:35:28 AM »
Bi toroid transformers not news and he must have probarly efficienty about 200 precents. But I try in fast some desings and not get overunity. Ned probarly good asamble, to get overunity like one man Tiger2007 use metalic tape wounded around transformer and seems get overunity about 200 precents.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #323 on: October 18, 2013, 11:35:28 AM »
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Offline stoyan_

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #324 on: October 18, 2013, 05:45:23 PM »
I think the COP will be something between 1 and 2 , which is very good achievment.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #325 on: March 26, 2014, 11:43:24 PM »
This thread ended without to engage a (really) new world order.


What is worse than seeking OU for decades and finally fail?


To obtain OU  and then be completely ignored.


I tell you something, let us all send a letter to the nobel price commitee, inviting them to become part of a evolutional markstone for mankind of highest eminence, by giving that darn nobel price to Thane Heins. I mean, if they're not too busy with some war industry stuff. (Like, "Nobel Dynamite" Ammo...).


If you read this Thane, you have my greatest respect. You did this not for the billions of idiots on this planet, but for the couple of millions who deserve it and who would not nitpick on the wrong color, shape or smell of the holy grail.


Regards


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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #325 on: March 26, 2014, 11:43:24 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #326 on: March 26, 2014, 11:57:49 PM »
Thane can't prove anything because he incorrectly "cherry picks" how he makes his measurements.  He only looks at differential measurements when his absolute measurements clearly show under unity.  There is nothing there at all.  If you attended a measurement session and observed a knowledgeable person make absolute input and output power measurements you would clearly and unambiguously see that there is no merit at all to his proposition.  End of story.

Offline dieter

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #327 on: March 27, 2014, 02:18:17 AM »
Haha, I like this "end of story". Especially when you did not make the measurements you are talking about. Besides, when the input  volts and amps are out of phase 90° and nonetheless there is a load at secondary then we don't have to discuss this. Not sure if you understand this.


Anyway, I always thought why are the bemfs working against eachother, is that part of the effect? Wouldn't it be better if the two secondaries run in the same direction? Or at least have their own core, with no opposing coil on it? So I made s quick sketch for a core that may be interesting to test, because the secondaries are allowd to circulate freely and probably even amplify eachother. But, it could also be that the opposing coils are required.


One other thing is, the shape of a BTT core should prevent the primary fwd MMF to use the secondary cores without to go trough the secondary coils, so a broad, short path is required inside the secondaries.


Regard


EDIT: oops , I just realize this might not work. As soon as there's a load, the primary will skip the sec. coils, where in the original design it can't do that.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #328 on: March 27, 2014, 02:50:52 AM »
Well, I assume that you didn't make the measurements either.  But I am quite familiar with his stuff over several years and I read a fair amount on his stuff and I was even involved in discussing one of his setups with Thane himself on one thread.  I wasn't impressed with what he had to show.  Beyond that it's been a long time and there are no motors or scooters or anything using his "regenerative acceleration" that I am aware of.

If the voltage source is 120 VAC then just a tiny phase shift away from 90 degrees that is not at all easy to see on a scope represents real power going into a load.  If the guy had legitimate technology that did something useful I would support him but it's not the case.

Offline dieter

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #329 on: March 27, 2014, 04:48:16 AM »
Well, this is a free country, and you may have your opinion.


I have seen several replications, with oscilloscopes and a switch to connect the load. Clearly no change in phase shift. But maybe that's just cgi  8) ...

 

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