Did anyone replicating this find anomalous flux phenomenon?

@ ramset,   The principle has some critical issues, Power Factor = 1 can occur however under specific conditions.

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Thank you for sharing everything.  However, who cares about Power Factor if OverUnity is present?
Floyd Sweet, SM, Hubbard, Magnacoaster, Morey, & Don Smith never cared about Power Factor with their O/U devices.

For example:  Since the O/U Power is normally fed into light bulbs or electric heaters, who cares if the Power Factor isn't perfect.  LOL

So in essence, just show us how to build a O/U device & we won't care if the PF is off.  LOL


Thanks.

I hear you saying that if Don Smith offered to sell you one of his 8 KW Output Units for $300, you would turn it down because the PF wasn't an absolute 1.0

Hmmmmmm.  I hope you know what you are saying.  ROFL

I think you really NEED to watch this video as to what PF is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGdow1CPMvU

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Okay, well I emailed Thane, but otherwise I'll leave him alone.  I'm persuing other leads anyway (HHO, TPU, Joule Thief/Joule Ringer).

You can read my summary here:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg11510#msg11510

Hah, thanks.  When I decide to do something , I put my soul into it.   I'm back on this research, as it's the most meaningful thing I can find, and it seems like we have a lot of promising leads.

Here's a copy of Thane's patents, diagrams, etc that I posted over on OUR. 

"I definitely believe Thane's phenomenon is real. "


http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=261.msg11532;topicseen#msg11532

Holy smokes, great find!

Thanks!!!   If this is true, this is the breakthrough we've all been looking for.

This is absolutely the most promising design I have found so far regarding the potential COP>1 system with usable output, due to its elegance and simplicity.   This is like Thane's system on crack.  Let's hope this is for real.

Without a load on the secondary, the primary circuit consumes 420 watts (3.5 amps at 120 volts) as displayed by the power meter plugged into the wall. As he adds loads (usually lights) to the secondary, something very interesting happens. The primary current starts to drop! Actually, the more load he places on the secondary, the less power the primary consumes. He has been able to get the primary circuit power consumption down to 60 watts (.5 amps at 120 volts) while outputting 480 watts (4 amps at 120 volts). His output is 800% that of the primary consumption!

Incredible.  I'm very strongly considering diverting resources from all other projects to this particular replication effort, as it greatly simplifies Thane Heins' design.

The main reason I was not bothering with the Thane Heins replication was due to the complexity of creating his primary design, creating the iron core primary from scratch, etc. This is alot of work!  Though, I absolutely believe Thane has overunity, well above COP=3.

This breakthrough toroidal design by David Klingelhoefer , if it holds up to scrutiny, will have much higher efficiency and is much simpler!  Much much easier to create. 

The only problem is the patent (intellectual property), which arguably may or may not belong to Thane Heins and/or David Klingelhoefer if he applies for a patent within a year.  I don't want to get involved in lawyer-nonsense, but the Gabriel device might be called an 'obvious' replication of Thane's work.  I have no idea.  We can leave this for the lawyers to sort out.  As long as people don't sell these units (we open-source the design), I think we are okay. 

I should also add we make sure both Thane Heins and David Klingelhoefer get credit for their work, and that one (or both of them) get royalties for any commercial use. However, this does not prevent us from open-source and/or replications.

As many of you know, the problem with commercial OU devices anyway is the bastards at the UL / FCC suppressing innovation with their bureaucracy (I mean, uh, prevent circuits from starting fires).

Anyway I'm going to divert resources to a replication of this phenomenon.   

P.S.  I suspect (but can't prove) the reason the output peaks at 480 watts is due to the flux-capacity ('flux capacitor', lol) aka. saturation of the toroid and/or the iron shell.  The way to increase the system's capability above 480 watts is to (A) get a bigger toroid with more magnetic flux capacity  or (B) wire multiple toroids together in parallel, perhaps through inverter or rectifier, or (C) make the iron shell more form-fitting.

I know David Klingelhoefer is persuing option (C) over the next few weeks in order to increase his claimed COP.

You can probably make this into a self-runner by looping the output through a power control circuit , perhaps with a capacitor /microcontroller to provide a buffer to prevent the thing from frying itself.   It may also be necessary to isolate the input AC circuit for self-running operation with an inverter, perhaps also with diodes, capacitor and/or battery.

Anyway this is great news if it's legit, which in my personal opinion, I think is 'yes'.  But the only way to tell is via replication, which I will be starting on immediately.   This toroidal idea is simply brilliant if it works.

I think David's approach represents a new design / patent. I worked in a large telecom company before and it's my understanding that concepts cannot be patented. There are different patents involved with the idea of re-routing the secondary magnetic flux. In any case, patents are related to commercial use of specific implementation, and does not apply to personal replication for private use. In any case, David has a year to follow up on patenting his design for its potential commercial benefit.

Feynman, did you get a chance to check with David where to get the steel shell?.. I don't know where to get that part and am interested to replicate the implementation; it is very simple and elegant.

/Wayne