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Author Topic: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER  (Read 471096 times)

broli

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2010, 02:30:38 PM »
@Crankypants
Did you make these photo's yourself?
It not clear from you posting whether the info you used are from Thanes or your own setup (if any).
Can you please elaborate a bit more?

Crankypants is Thane Heins.

teslaalset

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2010, 02:40:45 PM »
Crankypants is Thane Heins.

Ah, ok.
Thanks Broli  ;)

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2010, 07:43:21 PM »
@Thane

Thank you for sharing your work, I've been watching it for a while now.  I'm going to replicate your BITT, so I can see it for myself.

Are you making your own transformer cores?  If so, what material are you using?  I have some spools of metglas tape I can use, I'm just not sure how to go about affixing the material to a particular form.

broli

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2010, 08:40:27 PM »
Good job thane and thanks for sharing. And good to see you have a DSO now, you can do some fancy things with it and share the data pretty easily.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2010, 12:35:11 AM »
@Thanes

Please know that all your hard work and research is very much appreciated. Many of us are aware of the painstaking labor and effort that goes into getting things to work - especially in new areas where empirical results don't match the classical expectations and new calculations or modifications to the old ones become necessary to describe the observations.

I would be very interested in evaluating the comparison data of input values to output values if such are available.

Good Work!


SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2010, 01:52:56 AM »
 :) Very good joob, I saw, the inventor is present to this website, so I have repainted my plan but actually I can't post it because I am in a different PC... :'(

The main idea in my theory is to preserve (in low load or heavy load) the "decoupling ratio" from the primary path reluctance and secondary path reluctance... For this in my theory (like the patent) I use small section in primary path and a big section in secondary path, but I add a air gap inside the seconday path, so the reluctance decrease a little but stay LINEAR with the magnjtic excitation H, A air gap add linearity to a magnetic circuit and avoid saturation and undesirable coupling with primary and secondaries...

I hope this invention can be replicated easly and scientifically a day, to resolve a major problem in this time: The rarity and cost of energy...

Sorry for my English I am French... ;D

broli

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2010, 07:15:47 PM »
Hey thane, some people are very curious to know more about the setup. Could you please post more information especially on actual input.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2010, 09:39:06 PM »
Yeah Thane!
Polar Breeze wants some numbahs,
He also wanted me to ask you for another 8X10 glossy photo for the Dart board!

Chet

broli

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2010, 12:06:44 AM »
Out of curiosity I did a price inquiry at a local laser cutting company. I attached the info I sent them. I'll post back with their answer.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #54 on: October 14, 2010, 03:47:50 AM »
Yeah Thane!
Polar Breeze wants some numbahs,
He also wanted me to ask you for another 8X10 glossy photo for the Dart board!

Chet

OH OF COURSE - THAT WOULD BE 1-800-KISS.MYPB

T

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2010, 03:55:15 AM »
Out of curiosity I did a price inquiry at a local laser cutting company. I attached the info I sent them. I'll post back with their answer.

DEAR BROLI,

YOUR SECONDARY OUTER RING OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST 2X OF THE PRIMARY CORE LEG.
I WOULD CHANGE YOUR DIMENSIONS TO 10 MM FOR THE PRIMARY AND 30 MM FOR THE SECONDARY.

CHEERS
T

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PLEASE SEND ME THE $ QUOTE WHEN YOU GET IT TO: thane_heins@yahoo.ca - Thanks

broli

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2010, 07:44:40 AM »
DEAR BROLI,

YOUR SECONDARY OUTER RING OUGHT TO BE AT LEAST 2X OF THE PRIMARY CORE LEG.
I WOULD CHANGE YOUR DIMENSIONS TO 10 MM FOR THE PRIMARY AND 30 MM FOR THE SECONDARY.

CHEERS
T

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PLEASE SEND ME THE $ QUOTE WHEN YOU GET IT TO: thane_heins@yahoo.ca - Thanks

I just received a slim reply which basiclly stated that I should come down with a sample for them to make sure it's laser cuttable. This makes me assume they either don't know what silicon steel is or they don't have it in stock. So if they indeed can cut it do I need to supply my own raw plate material? I'm going to ask this and see.

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2010, 03:05:16 PM »
@ Broli: I have read (in youtube) that the primary must be near saturation (like a conventional transformer ?) You can use the "Boucherot" formula to caculate the frequency number of turn and dimension of the section of the magnetic circuit:

 U=4.44*N*F*(S/10^4)*B

So: U is voltage (in volts), 4.44 is the form factor( in this case beautiful sinosuidals waves...) N is the number of primary spire, F is the frequency (in Hertz) S is the section of the magnetic circuit in cm^2 (square centimeter), and B (in Tesla) is the maximum induction of your magnteic material (saturation point) in Tesla...
This not perfect but you can calculate reliably your transfomer characteristics with this formula.

Ex: Bmax = 1 Tesla, F = 50 hz, S = 10 cm^2, N = 1000 turns.
U = 4.44*1000*50*(10/10^4)*1
U = 222 Volts...

With this your primary work nearly in saturation point like Thane Heins in some video in youtube.
Hope it helps. :)

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2010, 06:13:09 PM »
I just started following this area of research..
and read this article which kind of looked similar with the use of a small gap.

Tunable, Stretchable Optical Materials
http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/26482/?p1=Headlines

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Instead of building a metamaterial on rigid materials, the Caltech researchers made an array of silver resonators on a stretchy polymer film. These resonators "ring" when struck with a particular wavelength of light, and act as a strong filter for that wavelength. Each resonator is shaped like a "C" next to an "l"; the distance between the tip of the "C" and the "l," about 50 nanometers in the test devices, determines the wavelength of light at which it will resonate.

SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2010, 05:25:41 PM »
Maybe a good stuff for solar panel  (resonate with some frequency of light or heat (Infrared)) but not for the Thane Heins principe. The principe look like more a "magnetic diode" that enable power flowing from primary to secondaries but not the back power of the secondaries to primary...