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Author Topic: Heron's Steam Engine  (Read 6869 times)

Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Heron's Steam Engine
« on: July 17, 2009, 06:04:24 AM »
Here is my design that I would like to make following up on Heron's Engine.

Jerry ;)

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Heron's Steam Engine
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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 06:18:59 AM »
nice design. 

any thoughts on how it is to be filled while in operation?
or is this like a 1-shot deal, and refilled after the water is gone and the machine stops??




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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 06:23:49 AM »
Hi Smoky.

I added a little extra detail to the design by adding an inverted heat trap in the center of the cylinder.

If we wanted to have an automatic refill design we would have to think about it a bit, swivel valves and possibly Thermostat valves to sense the pressure in the bottle and to automatically refill when needed.

something to think about.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 06:23:49 AM »
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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 07:07:05 AM »
Nice work,

I understand everything in the design except for the levitation magnets.  The bottom magnet is fixed, while the top magnet is levitating, but I'm not sure what their purpose is in the design.

This looks like a simple build.  I'll put it on my to-do-list.


Thanks,

GB

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 07:25:14 AM »
Hi GB.

The top magnet is glued to the bottom of the fill valve and acts as a magnetic bearing which rides on the lower magnet to help reduce rotational friction of the copper cylinder.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 07:40:51 AM »
Place a copper disc with an external circuit between the levitating magnets (bearings) and it will act as a homopolar generator that wouldn't put much load on the Steam Engine.  The normal way to extract the current off the disc is between the axis and rim of the disc.  I have an unproven method that needs to be tested that would only require two slip rings on each side of the axis in order to extract the current off the disc.  These slip rings would be equal to an infinite brush and eliminates the brush problems in the HPG's. 

Would this raise the effenciency of the Steam Engine if the copper disc and levitating magnets had a large enough diameter to produce a decent amount of current from the RPM's that the steam engine is generating?  This will be in addition to the windings and magnets that are on the cylinder.  Possibly connect the two in series.  Any Thoughts?


GB


Edit:  You wouldn't even need the copper disc if you had two nickel coated magnets.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2009, 08:10:58 AM by gravityblock »

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 08:00:54 AM »
Hi GB.

good idea, I wish I had thought of that.

you could try it, it might help to increase the RPM efficiency a bit, maybe a lot.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 08:37:25 AM »
Hi GB.

good idea, I wish I had thought of that.

you could try it, it might help to increase the RPM efficiency a bit, maybe a lot.

Jerry ;)

The HPG is mathematically proven to be Mechanical OU.  The problem is converting this Mechanical OU into Electrical OU.  This may be a good way to test for the Mechanical OU properties that the mathematics suggests for the HPG, since it could be used to increase the RPM's of the Steam Engine, which is mechanical energy, then converted to electrical energy.  Just a thought.

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 10:55:46 PM »
Add This to the mix

http://www.rexresearch.com/griggs/griggs.htm

Recover the steam and close the loop.

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Be well
Tinker

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Re: Heron's Steam Engine
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 10:55:46 PM »
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