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freepow

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #630 on: October 25, 2009, 01:07:44 AM »
Yes my scope says similar volts but my calculations say that the frequency of the signal = 132.57 HZ on the scope...

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #631 on: October 25, 2009, 01:10:22 AM »
Jeanna, please could you post a diagram of how you did this and instructions how to build it, I would love to build something like that to get great mA ,please

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #632 on: October 25, 2009, 01:13:18 AM »
Yes,
That is very possible.
I get waves all the way from I don't remember to 22.5hz then 22khz then on up to beyond an amount my scope can show.

This is all out there and you could be collecting it..
I think it is helpful to everybody in this effort to take the measurements every day while the weather holds. This way we know when we are seeing normal or abnormal things.
You are in range.

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #633 on: October 25, 2009, 03:45:59 AM »
 :) Hello I am posting my Earth battery results and in process of graphing one full day's volts and current output on my Antenna+ground connection.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #634 on: October 25, 2009, 05:13:14 AM »
Freepow:

What was your alignment?  Also, the output increases as you increase the distance between your electrodes.  Polar north/south appears to work the best.  (Not magnetic)  These are decent numbers you have but, with a little tweaking, I'll bet you can increase them.  Good work.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #635 on: October 25, 2009, 05:59:14 AM »
Here is an idea to try and raise voltage and amps.

Place a parallel resonant circuit that is tunable before the ground rod.  This can probably be made out of an old radio?  Slowly tune across the spectrum and monitor the voltage.   This will raise voltage in the tank circuit when it is in tune to frequencies coming out of the ground.  You could use a scope or freq counter to see what these freq peaks are.  This will raise voltage.

Then connect the same components as a series resonant circuit before the ground rod.  As you tune across the spectrum, at the same freqs you should see a rise in amps.  This should rise the amps.

Try and find one freq that will give you the most volts when in parallel mode and the most amps when in series mode.  The trick will be if we can connect both modes together?  Maybe two sets of ground rods.  One pair wired parallel and one pair wired series and somehow sum them together?

Sorry I am not in a position to experiment myself.  Just offering a suggestion.   You can google resonant circuits to get a picture of what I am talking about between parallel and series resonant mode.

Tishatang

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #636 on: October 25, 2009, 10:04:30 AM »
Hello,  freepow from down under !
I have tried a parallel and series circuit on my Earth battery and also on my antenna+ground connection but did'nt get higher volts or mA with either, my Earth battery running almost North/South, A correction I must make is that my Antenna and ground is actually running East/West and the Sun is currently setting about the same as the antenna line runs,
Here is my full one day graph of volts(AC) and also current (mA) of the output of my Antenna (+) and
ground pipe (-) for today Sunday Oct 25, 2009.
Hope this helps someone to tell me what i am recieving ?

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #637 on: October 25, 2009, 10:07:31 AM »
My One day results.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #638 on: October 25, 2009, 10:20:48 AM »
Sorry !  Must say one more thing... When I measured my antenna+ground pipe back on Fri 23-Oct, the current peaked unusually high at .2 mA for a about one hour... 1-2 hours before the sun set, yet the current usually peaks at about .13 during the best part of the day.  Why such a spike of current on Fri, I have no idea   :o
Even though it may be such a small amount of current, it still nearlly doubled at one stage on that day,
but the volts stayed at the same level during that reading and also 1-2 hours before and after that reading !

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #639 on: October 25, 2009, 08:38:44 PM »
MY apologies freepow and anybody else.

I said 265mA and realized later that this should be uA.

The little meter I have has resolutions that catch me.

Your findings are higher than mine by a lot.

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #640 on: October 25, 2009, 08:43:44 PM »
Here is an idea to try and raise voltage and amps.

Place a parallel resonant circuit that is tunable before the ground rod.  This can probably be made out of an old radio?  Slowly tune across the spectrum and monitor the voltage.   This will raise voltage in the tank circuit when it is in tune to frequencies coming out of the ground.  You could use a scope or freq counter to see what these freq peaks are.  This will raise voltage.

Then connect the same components as a series resonant circuit before the ground rod.  As you tune across the spectrum, at the same freqs you should see a rise in amps.  This should rise the amps.



Tishatang

Thank you Tishatang,

I do not have a clue HOW to do what you are suggesting but it is exactly in line with my thinking lately.
Could you explain in more detail how I would hook up this radio?
The radio has a wall plug, but somehow I do not think you mean to connect my  probe wires to the plug ends... or maybe you do mean that?

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #641 on: October 26, 2009, 05:11:54 AM »
Hello, I have experimented with a multi-meter outside near power poles and connected to a small antenna wire with small rod in the ground to the DMM = small AC-voltage, when I moved to a location way away from power lines = no AC voltage, Which means I am recieving AC and small current from the power lines that go through our yard ! frequency=131.5 HZ

Also I just measured my EB on scope, It also measures exactly 131.5 HZ and also sikes on scope,
both are the same frequency, does that mean my EB is also picking up AC waves from power lines ?

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #642 on: October 26, 2009, 05:15:38 AM »

I Want to achieve a decent current from an EB, say about 20-50 mA from one cell, doubt it will be possible though, all these EB's that most of us are experimenting with are just to small a current to do anything with...  so why are we doing it ???
I'm a little discouraged :(

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #643 on: October 26, 2009, 05:16:48 AM »
@ Freepow:

Well, we decided a while ago to call these earth energy receivers and, this might apply to your situation.  If you have grid power leaking into the ground, your EER will/should pick it up.  I don't really know more than that but it makes sense to me.  The same freq. for both seems an unlikely coincidence.  But still, if it is leaking grid power, it is still free as in no one else is using it right?

Others can comment on this but these devices will receive a bunch of stuff so, anything is possible.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #644 on: October 26, 2009, 06:59:17 AM »
Thanks Bill,  Is it a worth while persuit to harness power from power lines or is it better to stick with EB's?