I am glad you want to do this, Sm0ky2,
I can stop the action to look at the still image, and when I see 2 or 3 waves simultaneously, I don't get them when I stop the scope.
It happens at a relatively slow frequency (for the scope), like 20msec, so while my eyes might not be able to see clearly, the scope which is sampling much faster like 10MHz ought to be able to see it.

Once I stopped it with 2 but only once and never 3.
I wonder if it is something having to do with the power in? Mine is a battery so there is no power cord interference.

Anyway, I am sure you will be able to sort this out when you get your scope. How cool. You work fast!

jeanna

@ Geanna and Pirate
once again thanks for your posts, i do enjoy following your projects.
I am off topic here but given your past projects I wanted to draw your attention to the potential use of left handed materials.
There are many sites that explain the technology and some applications like

http://physics.ucsd.edu/lhmedia/whatis.html

I was looking at why the 3kw ERR device of Dr Schaartz couldnt run ie the collector area for the power output seemed beyond my logical paramaters etc and the running times were very short. However it did interest me enough to studyy up on these materials and the possability of creating a battery or capacitor device using them.
I ask you have a look  these left handed materials as they do some stunning things with them with optics and I am sure with our collective imaginations we might figure a way of applying them to our projects.
I think when you read up on them you might see why there may be some potential given both your areas of interest.
Kind Regards
Mark

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http://physics.ucsd.edu/lhmedia/whatis.html

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I think when you read up on them you might see why there may be some potential given both your areas of interest.
Kind Regards
Mark

Thank you Mark,
I actually did follow both links you provided on the 3kW thread.
They are sort of out of reach for normal folks, are they not?
I mean. The physics was explained all right, but it was a project paid for by the military.
And where is such a thing to be found?
One of those links said or implied that all that is necessary is to wind it right, but there was no hint about how it was to be done.
So, while it may be a great technology, I do not know what we would do about it since it is unavailable.
Unless you know something more....

thank you,

jeanna

ok well aside from its inherent use as a "wet battery"....

my NS is completely useless. the hard tempered steel i used as the core, has too high permeability to allow induction in the secondary ( or something to that effect) as i cannot draw any voltage in the secondary wire, at all, whatsoever....

even while its hooked in series through the EB-JT circuit, and current is flowing.....  i'll have to re-make that thing later when i find a softer core.   perhaps i'll try to reinvent the wheel and create a new type of steel/copper coil-inductor, based on the NS principals.... something for the thinking block..

the "dry" NS has no discernable effect on my earth battery, in any concievable configuration..  going to put that to rest for now...

EB/JT is still running strong though with 8 LEDs.

with the exception or heavy dew and/or rain - its a fairly maintanence-free power source for my garden lights

ive capped out the (-) side, i think to get any further increase of power i have to start adding to the (+) side, and increase the mass of both sides together.  would be nice to get a full amp out of this thing, im 1/100th of the way there...

@Jeanna,

Thanks for your input..
Today I had a friend give me some free copper ,pretty good bit , Some time in the next day or two I will make two isolated cells with nothing but dirt , and plan to do one dry and one dripping wet and and get some readings that way .
I am going to do copper/zinc and stainless steel/aluminum and possibly copper/aluminum..Just for comparison ..
I would like to find the best volt/ma reading with longest life ..

I checked my stainless/aluminum today again and it still had .54volts 2ma shorted (night time)Going to check it midday tomorrow and see if its different.

I am almost certain (well not whole lot) but more less guessing the sun and/or moon or both are having an effect on this stuff ,I really want to know for sure tho ..

Hopefully by next weekend I can have some good data to post...
I really think this stuff has potential even tho the amounts of electric are small , but like the old saying "Pennies make dollar" so in comparison "Milli amps makes amps " ..

Thanks Jdcmusicman

magnesuim wheel??

only Mg source i know of is ignition strips, which im not sure would be good for this, they're flexible and break easily.

also,.. im curious to know wether or not the Mg is consumed in this process??

i have plenty of small carbon rods ( i salvaged from 6v batteries)
those are what i use for my electrolyzers.

magnesuim wheel??
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also,.. im curious to know wether or not the Mg is consumed in this process??

Yes, they were a popular high end thing in the 70-80's
(So popular that people in Boston would go to their car and find it on blocks with the wheels removed... Love that Boston!)

I too would like to know if they are consumed, which is the reason a thin plating of magnesium is a better idea for tests.

Then again the microbes in the soil could continuously add ions that replenish the Mg.
It would be really nice to know.

jeanna