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Cosmicfarmer · « **Reply #390 on:** August 05, 2009, 07:56:54 PM »

Wow I take a nap and 5 pages get posted :-)
This forum is flying.

I apologize for not reading the stubblefield forum, but keeping up with energetic forum, Youtube, AND this forum is more then a full time job! That, and I am moving to japan shortly.

I think the trick is to take a ground sensor's signal, pass it through an amplifier and flyback transformer (you pay the power), and then broadcast that back into the ground how ever you like. The signal will be in phase with earth, and when 2 signals are in phase, energy transfer happens. So imagine all the energy DEEP DOWN that there would be no way you could get at with the deepest pipes... is now in your machine's circuits! So, any metal in the ground within a large distance will have immense power, volts and amps. (maybe?) You will be putting back into earth its own signal, amped. This is what I imagine the magnifying transmitter was. Almost reverse of what people are trying here. Most ideas I have read so far (sorry if I havn't read them all ) are passive systems and are showing incredible results, but I have yet to see an active system like I said above.

That EER Tower idea which shows increased power in the earth is groovy, your are one step away from making the coolest ground powered flashlight ever. All you need now is a ergonomic case. Even have a + and - plug for charging batteries... but then you need a charge controller... bah

"No More Batteries EVER! You dont even need to SHAKE IT! Just dig a hole, put (product name) in the EARTH, and in 10 minutes you will have FULL POWER!! No more poisioning the sea with chemicals! No more over expensive batteries! "

I would call it Ninja Light, because its quiet and stealthy.

jeanna · « **Reply #391 on:** August 05, 2009, 08:31:27 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 05, 2009, 08:49:16 AM

Smokey:

This is interesting as I have never tried multiple neg. electrodes. I actually have two positive electrodes on my set-up now (for about 1.5 years now) and I got an increase in both volts (not much ) and mA's. (pretty decent increase)
...
What if you had 1,000 paper clips out there? 2,000? I believe you can solder to a paper clip right so the hook-up would not be that hard to do. I would like to hear Jim's view on this.

Bill

I think I tried this on both sides a little and I have 2 right now, one being a NS coil, but

It never in the world occurred to me that some thin pieces of wire would be enough. Here I am the minimalist in the crowd, at I sure missed this one.

Thank you Sm0ky2

I will cut some wire and solder it together for the tops and solder the tops to a wire to add to the EB. So much fun... what a great group!

Thank you,

jeanna

jeanna · « **Reply #392 on:** August 05, 2009, 08:54:19 PM »

Quote from: electricme on August 05, 2009, 12:32:11 PM

Last one for the night, Video 3

I have removed the LED off the series EER cells.

Both scopes now show identical waveforms.

jim

Excellent work jim!

I was about to post that I thought it was the led smoothing out the wave and there you did it!
I have watched a spiky wave change to a smooth one a lot like the one you show, when the leds are in the circuit many times (not all times, though) while looking at joule thief secondary waves.

Nice work!
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BTW
jim and Bill,
I made those ultra short videos in raw format which makes them enormous. less than one second is what happens without compression.
Maybe "real player" can open up a .mov file without taking over your computer. If so, I can post little videos here that you can see. Would you be willing to try opening one I posted before in real player and let me know?

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@cosmic farmer

I think you grocked something important.
I do not have a clue how to make an amplifier for this... unless Stubblefield did already.

I would like it if you could try this and do it before you get to japan, if possible. I do not think it makes any sense to use the power grid for this. a stand alone battery for amplifying and charging your EER is what would work.

It will be wonderful to have you be doing these things in Japan and adding them to this datalogging spot.

They do need to be uniform, however, so I am, also jim is using 2 different set-ups. One is a plain 2 probe setup to read the earth. (the datalogging experiment)

The other is my experimental one/ now 2/ perhaps soon to be 3!!

Thanks,

jeanna

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #393 on:** August 06, 2009, 12:47:03 AM »

Jeanna:

I have removed real player from my computer entirely. (That really took some doing let me tell you.) I can't even watch Jim's latest ones. I am hunting for the proper codecs to add to wmp. Real Player is a virus and I advise no one to use it.

Bill

jeanna · « **Reply #394 on:** August 06, 2009, 01:18:08 AM »

Oh , no kidding I guess using a mac really insulates me.

MK1 offered this up a while back
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

This is the link to the free open source player VLC
I don't know what it will open. This page is for w2000 but there is a link right there for earlier versions.

Quote

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The cross-platform open-source multimedia framework, player and server

VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video formats (MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.264, DivX, MPEG-1, mp3, ogg, aac ...)
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FOSS !!!!

I am just wanting us all to be sort of undivided, you know.

jeanna

sm0ky2 · « **Reply #395 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:12:38 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 06, 2009, 12:47:03 AM

Jeanna:

I have removed real player from my computer entirely. (That really took some doing let me tell you.) I can't even watch Jim's latest ones. I am hunting for the proper codecs to add to wmp. Real Player is a virus and I advise no one to use it.

Bill

true words of wisdom. i removed that a few years back and never touched it since.

Cap-Z-ro · « **Reply #396 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:25:32 AM »

The first earth battery array perhaps ?

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/its-a-mystery-plain-and-simple-20090730-e2mq.html

Regards...

jeanna · « **Reply #397 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:43:33 AM »

I cannot think of a really 'economical' way to post what I have put together today, so I will just post it.
I have been wanting to compare the 3 types of earth battery I have been looking at through the scope.
So I made sure I took a picture of every resolution of each type of battery.
I put the pix up in a row and snapped a maequeed screenshot. They are in the same order in each pic.
Every time you see one of these you can know that the one on the left is the plain Earth batteryCu=Zn-, the one in the middle is the 30 foot EBCarbon+Zn-with one Stubblefield generator added to the zn on the south end. the one on the right is that same thing with another Stubblefield generator added to the North end. These have been changing as they are in the ground more. I won't be going into that, however. Please have a look.
The captions remind you of the screen resolution and the order, but it is cryptic.
I will go from the closest resolution and end up with the farthest away where you will see the whole wave.
It is fractals to be sure and it looks very useable for someone who knows how to work with inductors and tanks. (not me yet, but soon!)

jeanna

jeanna · « **Reply #398 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:46:39 AM »

sm0ky2 · « **Reply #399 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:52:36 AM »

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on August 06, 2009, 03:25:32 AM

The first earth battery array perhaps ?

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/its-a-mystery-plain-and-simple-20090730-e2mq.html

Regards...

more likely, the ancient indian tribes used these to gather rain-water. sandstone by itself would not make an effective EB, and the indian tribes would not have had a use for 'electricity'

jeanna · « **Reply #400 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:59:03 AM »

and almost finished

jeanna · « **Reply #401 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:24:20 AM »

All right that is it.
There are 2 more but I missed the plain EB so I will not post them so not to be confusing.
I think these are very interesting in how similar they are and also how different they are.
the voltages have been growing together over the time I have been doing this, for one thing.
Another is that when I first put the NS#10 at the north end adding it to the one at the south end, the voltage went down, I was not sure if it would ever be successful, but it is now coming up. And, not just coming up, I see more coherence with it than with the one at the south only.
I think.
I just did this and I will be studying it too.

I see something interesting on the next to last pic, the middle one has no real order to it. yet the one to the right has a wave that is discernable... like the plain EB on the left.

I also want you to notice this.
I made everything in the same row the same resolution of time which is the left to right element, but I had to use a different resolution for the volts which is the up and down direction. I used the finest/closest resolution to see something on the plain EB waves, but if I kept it on that resolution with the NS generators added the waves went off the chart! so I reduced it as you can see 10mv per division on the stubblefield ones, rather than 5mv per division on the plain one.

Please look closely. This was a lot of work and I will not be doing all this any more. ..just a couple of levels. I wanted to get a handle on what it looks like, but one of these is quite enough!

Thank you,

jeanna

electricme · « **Reply #402 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:45:34 AM »

Hi all,
Gotta rush off to town, my youngest daughter presented us all with a new grandson just about an hour ago. Mother and kiddo doing well.

he has blond to reddish hair,

I hope to be back soon to read the p39 onwards

Updater, for my EER battery in the back yard, got it to give out at a squeeze 11.04 volts for a split second, but holding at 10.24 volts.

Bill, I did the experiment we spoke about this morning, took the 7 copper cells onto the house roof, about 4 meters above the ground.
No change in voltage, but didnt do a scope reading, as I forgot, sorry mate.

This is for tomorrow sometime.

jim

Cosmicfarmer · « **Reply #403 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:58:05 AM »

@ electricme

CONGRATULATIONS Grandfather!

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Cosmic Grokage. Heinlein lives on.

Are we staring at the heartbeat of a living planet ?!
Good work on the scope shots.

How far is the closest 60hz signal to those EER's? I actually can't escape them. I try. My body is almost resonating at 60hz and its disgusting. It wont get any better in japan.

Anyway, you have my promise the first patch of ground I can hammer a rod in and entrain it I will get a webcam up to watch the scope. Might have to extend my oscope probes somehow to escape the 60hz... A friend has a small garden... Hooray for gardens!

nightshade · « **Reply #404 on:** August 06, 2009, 12:39:16 PM »

electricme

congrats to the new family member and nice to see your

new eer setup looks cool nice voltage

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