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altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2009, 09:24:43 PM »
There is hardly anything today. I just went out.
I will post my shots in a minute.
The screen will tell you if it is reading rms or peak to peak but you just need to look.
If you still cannot see it after you look closely at your screen, um maybe a pic, but I have a hard time seeing the digital numbers on a pic.

I want to post my pix of today first. This may be just what you are getting too.

jeanna

How do I switch back and forth between peak to peak and RMS?

Thanks!

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2009, 09:35:31 PM »
Here are some pix from today.
edit,
South of Seattle, Washington, west coast US
(Altrez I will pm you now.)
My dmm says 0.8v
I will try to put them in order of whole wave first to closest in last.
Normally I see a big wave and the things here today are like carrier waves on that bigger wave, but today that bigger wave is flat. No triple or even  double wave today either.

jeanna
« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 02:10:24 AM by jeanna »

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2009, 10:40:11 PM »
Jeanna:

Your first pic still had those jagged edges like mine and Jim's.  I won't say where your location is but if you wanted to generally say (as in geographical region) I will leave that up to you but, you know where I am and where Jim is and I think it is amazing that we can see these similar waveforms with the jagged edges.  That covers a large section of the planet with the 3 of us and I am not sure where Altrez is located...but it will be cool to see some more results from other locations.

Great photos!  Yours show up better than mine from my camera.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2009, 11:13:51 PM »
Hi wilby,
Will you program that in a java type language or at least not MS specific? something browser based would be really cool and so much more universal and open...

[soap box.. stepping down now.]

thanks wilby,

jeanna
absolutely jeanna, browser based so everyone can use it.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2009, 02:13:30 AM »
absolutely jeanna, browser based so everyone can use it.

OK where is that kissypoo.
 :-*
Everyone thanks you, wilby.

@Bill,
I edited my pix to include my location. I will try to do that each time.


jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2009, 07:09:40 AM »
@Jeanna,
No worries, I get a good feeling helping people.

Thanks for posting that video. I knew we would all be glad when you got your scope up n running!
Thanks Jim for helping Bill, too.

I get the braided rope too, but when I freeze it, I don't see more than a single wave. I just assumed it was too quick for my eyes.
I think I will go out and see what is happening in the heat of the noonday sun. (Photons with blue sky background are what make it possible for me to catch it on my camera.)

jeanna

I look back to the time when you had no scope, then you got your handheld scope, and you didn't have a clue how to make it work.
Now look at you, helping Altrez with his scope, well done Jeanna, and it won't be too long before Altrez will be helping someone, no doubt one day he will be able to tell you how a particular feature works on your scope. :D
The wheel goes round slowly, but it make's a revolution.

@Bill
I have an answer for you, about the "flat top" on those wave forms of mine.
I read where someone had hooked up a solar garden light to his earth battery, he was able to get his solar light to recharge via it.
So I decided to do the same.
I took that still and video series while the GL was connected to the EB, when I removed this connection, the waveform returned to normal.

@All,
I have looked at Bills video on YT, I have not seen this unusual rope line before, and Jeanna has seen this on her scope, but I haven't.
Is this peculiar just to your locations?, I must tuck away for further reference sometime.

I can hardly wait for stormy summer time here

Just a snippet of info for the folks who post here, our great friend Wilby has been very busy indeed, I'm very excited about his creative ability, I am very very impressed.
Can't say any more just yet, big surprises soon.  ;D


jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2009, 07:10:47 AM »
Hey smart guy, read the other topic and then tell me again what you think, ok?  I never said I was getting that..he was speaking of useful power and the Russian, and now several others, are getting just that.  He uses a water pipe and a buried car radiator which ARE two pieces of metal stuck in the ground.

Here is a link:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.0



Bill

sorry Bill, i didnt mean to ruffle your feathers there...

have YOU been able to get that kind of power out of an earth battery??  if not,. what is the most power you HAVE gotten??

ive made some pretty large ones myself, and while size of the metal does have an effect, the proportions to support that claim would be more like burying a HOUSE, not a car radiator...

aside from that, i also notice a 30-v Deep-Cell battery with the top cracked open..

times like this i wish i could speak more Russian....

this system seems to be an earth-amplifier, not an 'earth battery ' as we commonly understand them.

They hook up a NORMAL battery, that has been opened and shorted internally to increase its output (and thus lowering its lifetime) so theres no real way of knowing how much 'power' they are putting in, though one guy says its 40W, i believe the way they modified that battery it 'could be' putting out far more than 13A.

i cant identify some of the things in these videos. but if i understand the little bit i could (correctly), they inject electricity into the 'earth-amplifier', and get back a much greater quantity.

Also, the localized current flowing through the ground is unknown in that region.  As Tesla demonstrated once here in the states, the ground near a powerplant is greatly energized, you can pull curent from it and also create constructive-interference waveforms and amplify this energy over time.

This may be what is happening in those videos. 

i didnt have the stamina to read through all 44 pages of speculation and conjecture in that thread you linked. But from examining the source videos, i have to say this system is NOT AN EARTH BATTERY!!! 

When someone can replicate a 5 KW earth battery anywhere in the world, then i MAY shed some of my skepticism.

i dont say this to deter the work you guys are doing in THIS THREAD. i think what we have going on here is fantastic and will teach us a lot about the internal workings of mother earth and her electrical flow.

i do NOT, however, think we can get 5KW from a simple earth battery, which is what was claimed, and thus i stand by my earlier comment.

Thanks, 
           Sm0ky




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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2009, 07:21:17 AM »
@ Bill

in your video you posted yesterday
when you are looking at those 3 overlapping waveforms, theres a
moment on the clip where you have all 3 appear like sinwaves out of phase with one another

this looks identicle to the waveform produced by a 3-phase A/C motor when ran as a generator.

have you attempted to rectify this A/C pattern, to either bring them all in-phase or the whole thing to DC?

might be worth looking into.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2009, 07:30:11 AM »
sorry Bill, i didnt mean to ruffle your feathers there...

have YOU been able to get that kind of power out of an earth battery??  if not,. what is the most power you HAVE gotten??

ive made some pretty large ones myself, and while size of the metal does have an effect, the proportions to support that claim would be more like burying a HOUSE, not a car radiator...

aside from that, i also notice a 30-v Deep-Cell battery with the top cracked open..

times like this i wish i could speak more Russian....

this system seems to be an earth-amplifier, not an 'earth battery ' as we commonly understand them.

They hook up a NORMAL battery, that has been opened and shorted internally to increase its output (and thus lowering its lifetime) so theres no real way of knowing how much 'power' they are putting in, though one guy says its 40W, i believe the way they modified that battery it 'could be' putting out far more than 13A.

i cant identify some of the things in these videos. but if i understand the little bit i could (correctly), they inject electricity into the 'earth-amplifier', and get back a much greater quantity.

Also, the localized current flowing through the ground is unknown in that region.  As Tesla demonstrated once here in the states, the ground near a powerplant is greatly energized, you can pull curent from it and also create constructive-interference waveforms and amplify this energy over time.

This may be what is happening in those videos. 

i didnt have the stamina to read through all 44 pages of speculation and conjecture in that thread you linked. But from examining the source videos, i have to say this system is NOT AN EARTH BATTERY!!! 

When someone can replicate a 5 KW earth battery anywhere in the world, then i MAY shed some of my skepticism.

i dont say this to deter the work you guys are doing in THIS THREAD. i think what we have going on here is fantastic and will teach us a lot about the internal workings of mother earth and her electrical flow.

i do NOT, however, think we can get 5KW from a simple earth battery, which is what was claimed, and thus i stand by my earlier comment.

Thanks, 
           Sm0ky

No worries.  Here is the thing.  I began that topic because a friend on youtube thought I would be interested, which I was of course, and he wanted me to put it out on the forums in hope of getting it translated.  As it turns out, that is exactly what we did do if you read through the topic.  It is Russian, as it turns out (that was news to me of course) and it appeared that something great was taking place.

Well, leave it to the folks on OU forum to jump in with translations, patents, schematics, etc and there is a lot going on over there.  This is real from what I can tell.

Now, about the earth battery part,...I originally named the topic something about earth energy and put it in the earth battery section.  Well, Stefan, our forum owner/manager, decided to move it and rename it, which was fine by me because I didn't really know what the heck was going on there anyway.

What it turns out is that you can set up a resonance system with the earth that you initially pulse to get going (hence the battery in the first series of video) and then it not only runs itself but puts out 5kw.  This is after the battery is disconnected.  later, he improved it for more output and only used a 9 volt battery to start it.

So is it an earth battery?  Are earth batteries really batteries at all?  Probably not but it does use 2 metals in the ground as we have done and it does put out amazing amounts of real, usuable power and there are patents on this.  Maybe my earth battery is more of an earth energy receiver than a battery?  I could live with that.

Anyway, we are all here to learn and I guess I am a little sensitive to folks on youtube telling me I can never do anything with an EB, except, maybe light an led for a few seconds.  Of course, this was posted on my video of me lighting a 48" tube from it, and later 400 leds.

Check out the rest of that topic over there.  You may be able to help.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2009, 07:48:08 AM »
@SmOky

Hello there, I read your remarks about Bill efforts to get a certain amount of energy out of a Earth Battery, Bill has been able to light up several hundred LEDs, he has been able to light up a fluro tube, he also has been able to light up fluro tubes in "series", this is a big achievement in my book.

Bill is not the only person here to have done this, several of us here have lit fluro tubes (I am one of them) I also have been able to drive a tiny electric motor from earth energy, which I accumulated from my own earth battery, I posted a TWV back on Bills Joule Thief Forum to prove this.

So how was this done?
We researched this as a team, there were about a dozen of us, over the last 3-4 years who have stayed through it on several forums.
In the very early weeks of the Joule Thief forum we all began building our own Joule Thiefs, to learn more, then some bright spark remarked "what about connecting a JT to an earth battery" how about I connect a Super Cap to it to see if it will fill up, can a EB fill a modified camera, to drive something.
WE discovered the EB can fill a Super Cap, and WE went on to drive other circuits as well.
WE discovered the EB energy can reach to 600volts or more if we connect a JT to it.
I use the word WE not as a flame, but to emphasise it was a team effort that did it.

I don't blame you for being critical, if I read that such and such a person had managed to do what is claimed in the video7 series, then I would want proof, proof, proof of this claim.
Don't worry, proof either confirming or denying the claim will occur, but in regard to Bills efforts, I believe they are very genuine, open and honest, as are everyones efforts are here.


I encourage you to grab a copper and a steel pipe/bar and drive them in the dirt, then take your multimeter, measure it on low volt scale and post your reading is here.
Copper is the North position and Steel the South position, make them about 3 feet apart.

hooroo

jim

 

 

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2009, 08:04:40 AM »
Bill has been able to light up several hundred LEDs, he has been able to light up a fluro tube, he also has been able to light up fluro tubes in "series", this is a big achievement in my book.

Big achievement?   These experiments are neat and all, but what makes this method different from the electrochemical cells or 'earth batteries' experimented with 100 years ago?  How do you know the power isn't electrochemical and really a telluric power source?


Getting 1-2 volts out of the dirt (metals) and believing it's extraordinary just doesn't seem logical..


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2009, 08:14:33 AM »
Big achievement?   These experiments are neat and all, but what makes this method different from the electrochemical cells or 'earth batteries' experimented with 100 years ago?  How do you know the power isn't electrochemical and really a telluric power source?


Getting 1-2 volts out of the dirt (metals) and believing it's extraordinary just doesn't seem logical..

since the average ordinary guy off the street isn't doing anything of the sort, not calling it extraordinary just doesn't seem logical.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2009, 09:31:10 AM »
@ Newbbie123,
It sure is a big achievemet in my eyes, I haven't managed to light hundreds of LEDs off a earth battery, have you?
If the world just stuck with chemical cells 100 years old, then we would be nowhere.

Big achievement?   These experiments are neat and all, but what makes this method different from the electrochemical cells or 'earth batteries' experimented with 100 years ago?  How do you know the power isn't electrochemical and really a telluric power source?


Getting 1-2 volts out of the dirt (metals) and believing it's extraordinary just doesn't seem logical..
Well, there you are, you are just as confused as most of us here lol, I have had just one regret in life, if only Tesla and the other EE inventors were still alive, I would ask them a whole lot of questions. As they are not, then we only have their photographs, and patients and notes to research to try and understand how they did it.


There is only one answer, jump in the pond with us all and prove it isn't.

Telluric in nature, well before anyone can do this, they have to understand what telluric is, what it consists of, how it behaves, there is a whole lot more about it, more than I know right at this point in time, but newbie, you have the stars, so, go on and show us.
If I don't know, I will ask. So I am putting my hand up right now, and asking.

We need the right "tools" to do it, and so we will make them in all shapes and forms.
The next tool is about ready, just a little tuning..................

jim

The below photo is the current EB scope shot for today at 5pm 17th July in Queensland Australia

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2009, 03:02:46 PM »
@all

It is true that an earth battery is nothing new. With that being said what I find odd is the fact that they are not in wide spread use. Even if this a pure Voltaic effect it has some serious potential.

I can see someone running a home from nothing but earth battery's. Now true it might take a few 100 earth battery's to run a home but still once the work is done it should last for 20 years with some maintenance.

I plan to go to lowes and buy 12 earth battery's connect them in series and run a JT. Once that is done I can change store bought battery's. And then I can use those battery's to run a small inverter.

So you see if i simply had 350 watts of free earth power running at its max efficiency. i could run my Laptop 65watts my tv 150 watts and lamp 75 watts all from the earth.

Plus run my custom JT circuits for lighting all over the house. I only need 12 volts and 300 mAs to make that all happen :)

So 24 pieces of 8 foot long metal if I am correct should give me that much power.

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2009, 04:20:39 PM »
@all

It is true that an earth battery is nothing new. With that being said what I find odd is the fact that they are not in wide spread use. Even if this a pure Voltaic effect it has some serious potential.

I can see someone running a home from nothing but earth battery's. Now true it might take a few 100 earth battery's to run a home but still once the work is done it should last for 20 years with some maintenance.

How long have you guys had Earth batteries run for,  I figured they wouldn't run (stable) longer than a few weeks...   20 years would be awesome.