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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #900 on: December 04, 2009, 12:54:38 PM »
@ tishatang,
Thank you for this info, I will begin on it tomorrow sometime.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #901 on: December 04, 2009, 04:24:14 PM »
@ the_big_M
Hi Lee, it is a bedini .
If you go back a few posts, and click on the paper clip, you will see this in operation
I'm just putting it to a different use, see the pic below, Ultra Violet radiation, I can smell the OZONE ha ha
Hi electricme,

Be careful of the ozone.  It's a strong poison.  That's what lightning makes.  But at least you're not being blinded yet by any short wave ultraviolet rays from the tube.   :o   :P   ;D 

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #902 on: December 05, 2009, 03:51:41 AM »
All,
For those of you who are in middle of winter, here is good reference material to read.  Go here and download Hawkins Electrical Guide number 4 and number 8.  You can get them all if you want.  But, emphasis on electrical generation and distribution and AC motors.  Copyright 1917, published 1922.  Number 4 good for basic explanation of inductors and caps using mechanical examples.  Number 8 gets into wireless telegraph and into tuned circuits.

http://www.scribd.com/

I can not access this site anymore.  I am guessing this is where I downloaded these books?  I was going through old saved files last night and discovered them.  See what life was like back then.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #903 on: December 05, 2009, 07:22:17 AM »
Electrime
Here is rough sketch of setup. 

First thing is measure with scope unconnected leads of MOT.  Any signals from primary?  Any from secondary?  Would be good if MOT makes an ERR because they are everywhere and easy to find.  If signals note voltage and freqs.

Next, power up MOT primary using ground rods as in sketch.  Place scope across ground rods and see if get anything? 

Check secondary and see if get any transformer action?  Try ungrounded first.  Then ground one lead and check again?

Finally, make a parallel res circuit by placing your var cap across the secondary leads, slowly tune the dial.

Any freqs detected coming from the primary side will be important here.  This is because the tank circuit res freq may not be a harmonic of the primary.  This is where we can add caps to change the range of tunable freqs.

After all this, you can reverse the primary with the secondary and get different freqs.  Now you will energize the secondary and make the primary the tank circuit.

Final variation would be to use another var cap in series with the coil being energized between the ground rods.  Again, hopefully primary will reveal freqs available to tune for.  May have to add another cap to bring in range.  This will make a series res circuit which will boost amps.  The transformer action and the tank circuit will boost volts.  Hopefully, the earth currents follow somewhat basic theory?

The MOT will have low Q because of the tight windings.  So, not as high gain as NS EB.  But, hopeful something will be revealed for future experiments.

Another thing.  Yes, one rod deeper in ground helps because declination of magnetic field.  Since you are in Australia, try the alum rod deeper into the ground.

Good luck

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #904 on: December 05, 2009, 01:52:16 PM »
@tishatang,

Thank you very much indeed, tomorrow looks like being a big day for me.
I will have to sharpen my pencil point I think, lots to doo.

jim
 

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #905 on: December 05, 2009, 02:57:38 PM »
@ all

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #906 on: December 05, 2009, 03:25:03 PM »
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Force them to take notice of your rights.

Thankyou

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #907 on: December 06, 2009, 01:36:02 AM »

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@ all Americans against climate change.

I found this petition for you all here, don't just sit by and let it be steam rolled over the top of you all.

http://www.webcommentary.com/php/SignRepudForm.php

There may be others I don't know about.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #908 on: December 06, 2009, 01:49:02 AM »
@tishatang,

I was looking through one of my electronic magazines and found a tuner designed for just low frequencies, most of the plates have not been included, there is just a single adjustable plate with 2 side plates, very interresting this, the article says to get access to the lower frequencies, the tuner is bigger than usual, if one wanted higher frequencies, then more plates are added together, the air gap being much smaller.

So my reasoning is, make a really big tuner, same principle as we see in the below photos.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #909 on: December 06, 2009, 01:57:46 AM »
@all,
A few pages back I made reference to a concentric tuner, this is a air tuner device which appeared in the late 40s to late 50s in different multiband radios, and is a "fine" tuner. I present it here as someone someday might need the use of it.

As you can see there are several "concentric" rings, or cylinders, the top is slowly inserted into the bottom cylinders and so the frequencies change.
Adjustment is done via a nylon insulated screwdriver.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #910 on: December 06, 2009, 02:04:43 AM »
@all,
Switching Hi Currents.

When this stubblefield research battery is up and running, I want to be able to "keep it in tune" by using a heavy duty wafer contact switch, which I have below.

This is going to have to wait until its working, but this circuit should explain it.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #910 on: December 06, 2009, 02:04:43 AM »
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #911 on: December 06, 2009, 02:34:29 AM »
@All,

I was thinking about how to make a tuner, and I came to the opinion, the easiest way would be to take 3 round steel cans, they could be fruit tins, vegetable tins etc, then you would need a threaded rod, 4 nuts matching it, several steel washers and insulated washers.
Insulated washers could be made from the sides of a icecream plastic tub, use a suitable hole punch for this.
Then you would need 2 solder tags, use some brass or tin shim.

It could be mounted on a piece of deewhy (wood), solder a wide L bracket to the bottom of the bottom can, well it depends if you wanted a horizontal or vertical mount setup.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #912 on: December 10, 2009, 07:35:14 AM »
@all,
I setup a another copper pipe in the ground, (close to the MOT) then 40 feet away I drove in the ground 4 ft of aluminium rod.
The meter says there is .450volts output.

I connected this as per tishatangs circuit, with tuner as well, to the MOT.
I cannot see any out put from the MOT.

If I connect the cro to the MOT, then I can see something.
I need to muck around with for a while.

hmmmm.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #913 on: December 15, 2009, 01:23:50 AM »
@electricme

Good luck on your project! that seems like the way to go.  Active systems pull the real amps from the ground, but are the most tricky to get right.  I thought a MOT was a transistor and in your drawing it seems like an inductor, but thats just me being confused.


I am "done" with my ground power station for now and have had it outside charging for 24 hours so far.  Basically, its 4 high frequency bridges tied to 4 650f 2.5v supercaps in parallel, and a switch knocks them out of the circuit and into series.  Around the caps is a metallic mass that is excited by a SEC Exciter that is powered from a solar panel through a JT.  The excited mass around the caps is supposed to interact with the ground and draw more charge into the caps.  Dr. Stiffler was showing dramatic charging in such the same manner, however he used a power supply and smaller caps.  The solar panels put out much less power then his setup, however its "free" energy.  I think the setup I have is more like a turbo that is active during the day, while charging still occurs during the night.

I think the mega capacitance I am offering the tiny one foot ground rods is keeping my charge speed low.  That, and I have not tinkered with the depth of the rods at all, and I think they are somewhat parallel. If you saw my EB to SCOPE video you know the layout of the rods.

I shorted the caps and installed the box outside.  One hour later the caps had rebounded to .012 volts or 12 milivolts.  After that, during the night, I saw a charge speed of 2 milivolts every hour.  During the day, charge speed seemed to have quadrupled, but I still after a whole day don't even have a half a volt. 

The SEC turbo seems to be working.  If I could store solar energy in a cap for night time, then I would be cooking with nitrous.  It would be interesting to see what my charge speeds would look like if I had the solar panel go straight to the caps instead of the way I have it now, to see which way is more efficient.  I believe I need the ladder filter as the capstone of this device, as that seems to unleash the SEC.

I am sure if I take a few caps out then I could charge faster, but of course I would be giving up amps.  Right now this "earth battery" seems something you set up and then go on vacation, and when you get back you have something to play with. 

Later, when I actually get a decent dipole formed, I am planning on making a CFL + Jouletheif port for the energy, and battery charger - you switch which one you want.  Ground light or Ground battery?  You decide.

On a side note I wound a big JT coil. About 20 feet of wire on each A and B side and the thing sings like a solid state bedini on twelve volts, with only a volt as input.  I seriously think JT and Ground battery (EER?) need to be married. they compliment each other.

Allright thanks for your time.







 I will post a pretty graph when I am done with the readings, but right now


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #914 on: December 15, 2009, 01:48:03 AM »
Cosmicfarmer:

Holy crap!  You have every thing in that circuit except the kitchen sink, ha ha.  I am envious that you have 4 of those big caps, actually, I am happy for you.  And, you have a working SEC too.  Nice going.

I mentioned before about alignment and electrode depth being important to the output.  With the correct materials and alignment, you should be getting close to 2 volts @ 19 mA's or so.  This small amount will charge my single 650 F cap up to about 2.65 volts in less than 6 hours.  That is still a while BUT we are putting in a lot of usable energy into them.

Yes, I believe a decent solar cell will charge up a b-cap in a reasonable period of time.  Most of the cells I have put out over an amp of power although, I have not tried any of them direct to the big cap yet.

Best of luck with your experiments over there.  With all of those technologies combined you may hit a big breakthrough that none of us ever thought of.  I will be most interested in hearing about more of your results.

Thanks,

Bill

 

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