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Offline IotaYodi

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2009, 08:33:14 PM »
@Pirate
When you take your waveforms is your eb connected with anything else?
The strange waveform is why I ask.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2009, 09:40:08 PM »
Thanks to Electricme and Pirate for an OU forum thread that discusses practical Earthbatteries (actually earth cells). There is a lot of misunderstanding, false information, withheld information, and potential improvement.

I see three categories of sticking electrodes into the earth. I see differing opinions about materials, placement, and mass based upon poorly performed empirical performance. I have a lot of datalogged files, graphs, and the capability to replicate and datalog. Let’s work together and resolve this.

I'm getting caught up in this new thread and will post later this week. I hope we can work together to resolve the inconsistencies.


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2009, 01:12:53 AM »
@Pirate
When you take your waveforms is your eb connected with anything else?
The strange waveform is why I ask.

No, nothing else at all.  Just directly from the EB electrodes via a 20 ft. extension cord and my probes go into the other end of the cord in the house.  (this way I could leave the scope indoors) No JT or supercaps....nothing else.  If you could help shed some light on these waveforms, it would be great.  Thanks.


@ Greg:

Welcome and I am glad you can join us here.  I am sure your input will be very helpful.  Have you had a look at the Kapandze topic yet?  I hope our research and experiments here will help make it possible to replicate his device.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2009, 04:09:14 AM »
@altrez,

@all

It is true that an earth battery is nothing new. With that being said what I find odd is the fact that they are not in wide spread use. Even if this a pure Voltaic effect it has some serious potential.

I can see someone running a home from nothing but earth battery's. Now true it might take a few 100 earth battery's to run a home but still once the work is done it should last for 20 years with some maintenance.

I plan to go to lowes and buy 12 earth battery's connect them in series and run a JT. Once that is done I can change store bought battery's. And then I can use those battery's to run a small inverter.

So you see if i simply had 350 watts of free earth power running at its max efficiency. i could run my Laptop 65watts my tv 150 watts and lamp 75 watts all from the earth.

Plus run my custom JT circuits for lighting all over the house. I only need 12 volts and 300 mAs to make that all happen :)

So 24 pieces of 8 foot long metal if I am correct should give me that much power.

-Altrez

I think I know what you are about with your EB idea.
I came across a web site and downloaded and printed some extremely interresting information, how to make the Earth Battery and a Capacitor plate battery.
I will do another search for it shortly and post the http address, it made seance to me, its almost a back to front EB, electrodes wise, but it seems to be able to put out voltage and current.
It needs more investigation in my humble opinion, but if it works as is stated, then this might be the one.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2009, 04:12:09 AM »
@IotaYodi

Im thinking mainly dc. The flow may slowly build charge through the earth then release. There may even be overlapping charges. If there is bemf then you might pick up an ac type waveform.

If you parallel,the amps should increase and the voltage will stay the same.

This is right, 100%
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2009, 11:36:22 AM »
@ GregInTheWoods,

Welcome Greg, I know you will be a very valuable member here, those who know you respect your opinion highly and we look forward to your input.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2009, 12:02:42 PM »
@All
I just came across this web site on Tesla, a treasure trove of his work and information.

   http://www.tesla.hu/tesla/tesla.htm

I hadn't seen this site before, looks very interresting

**************************
OK what I'm going to post may trigger a memory with some readers, of a post I made 2-3months ago on the JT forum, I talking about my earth battery lightning a LED, I was very very excited about that, and somehow I did it, but don't quite know how as it was dark when I made the video.
It seems I had bumped the cliped together circuit and I had not been able to replicate my own LED being lit.
So tonight I'm posting a completly "NEW" situation here, I don't want any egg over my face, embarrassment does slow one down some.
I have checked, double checked and tripple checked this, it seems to be working of earth energy directly without any interference from any other source that I know of up to tonight.
 

I have just been able to very very dimly light a white LED off my EB.

This is the Round Earth Battery, I made a couple of months ago, showing all the steps I had done by photos I posted in the JT topic of Bills.

Before Bridge diode voltage was around .6v

I made a bridge diode, using 1N4007 single diodes, I have about 1.9volts, hmmmm.
I atatched the LED, it came on very very very low.
 
Then I accidentally touched the cathode, and the diode dimly brightened a little, still holding the cathode, I stood up, it brightened a little more.
So somehow I became an aerial for "air" energy, which is interracting with the EB.

Next I got about 5 meters of copper wire, and strung it around the corner, now the LED stays dimly lit without my finger on it. Now what will occur if I throw it up on top of the house roof, ha ha.

I took a series of photos of the scope before and after, there appears to be no noticeable difference to the waveforms.
If you look very close, right at the top of the wave, there is a very sharp peek, then right at the bottom, there is an opposite sharp peek.
This has been unchanged for 2 days now.

jim

1131 = DMM reading before LED lights 1.905v dc
1133 = DMM reading after LED lights 1.881v dc

1128 = current EB waveform today 19/07/2009     Queensland Australia
1129 = closeup of current waveform, the broad green wave is a heat related fault with the cro, the old B&W 511. It OK when cold.


« Last Edit: July 19, 2009, 01:04:39 PM by electricme »

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2009, 02:40:58 PM »
@altrez,

I think I know what you are about with your EB idea.
I came across a web site and downloaded and printed some extremely interresting information, how to make the Earth Battery and a Capacitor plate battery.
I will do another search for it shortly and post the http address, it made seance to me, its almost a back to front EB, electrodes wise, but it seems to be able to put out voltage and current.
It needs more investigation in my humble opinion, but if it works as is stated, then this might be the one.

jim

Hey Jim :)

I think you know exactly what I am trying to do. And I am sure it can be done! Right now I am getting around .970 on my earth battery. I got some pictures of my scope to upload today. It still shows next to no wave form. However I did capture some juice in a small cap :) it was 1.4 volts in a small cap.

This tells me that the EB is in fact putting out real energy. I know everyone on here has already  seen that. But I needed to see it for my self ;)

an unlimited supply of power in the 1-2volt range can produce some real power.

On and by the way I tested running a 350 watt inverter from a dedicated 1 v power supply and I got it to work. this is what I did:

1. Take 1.2 v power supply with  300 mA current
2. Increase voltage to 12v with JT
3. Charge 12 volt 7 amp hour battery "took around 30 hours"
4. Run inverter =)

It works! It wont work in real time yet. I just needed to see it to understand that it was possible. So really all we need is 1-2volts and 300mAs an we could work some magic.

Take Care

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2009, 02:41:29 PM »
@All
I just came across this web site on Tesla, a treasure trove of his work and information.

   http://www.tesla.hu/tesla/tesla.htm

I hadn't seen this site before, looks very interresting

**************************
OK what I'm going to post may trigger a memory with some readers, of a post I made 2-3months ago on the JT forum, I talking about my earth battery lightning a LED, I was very very excited about that, and somehow I did it, but don't quite know how as it was dark when I made the video.
It seems I had bumped the cliped together circuit and I had not been able to replicate my own LED being lit.
So tonight I'm posting a completly "NEW" situation here, I don't want any egg over my face, embarrassment does slow one down some.
I have checked, double checked and tripple checked this, it seems to be working of earth energy directly without any interference from any other source that I know of up to tonight.
 

I have just been able to very very dimly light a white LED off my EB.

This is the Round Earth Battery, I made a couple of months ago, showing all the steps I had done by photos I posted in the JT topic of Bills.

Before Bridge diode voltage was around .6v

I made a bridge diode, using 1N4007 single diodes, I have about 1.9volts, hmmmm.
I atatched the LED, it came on very very very low.
 
Then I accidentally touched the cathode, and the diode dimly brightened a little, still holding the cathode, I stood up, it brightened a little more.
So somehow I became an aerial for "air" energy, which is interracting with the EB.

Next I got about 5 meters of copper wire, and strung it around the corner, now the LED stays dimly lit without my finger on it. Now what will occur if I throw it up on top of the house roof, ha ha.

I took a series of photos of the scope before and after, there appears to be no noticeable difference to the waveforms.
If you look very close, right at the top of the wave, there is a very sharp peek, then right at the bottom, there is an opposite sharp peek.
This has been unchanged for 2 days now.

jim

1131 = DMM reading before LED lights 1.905v dc
1133 = DMM reading after LED lights 1.881v dc

1128 = current EB waveform today 19/07/2009     Queensland Australia
1129 = closeup of current waveform, the broad green wave is a heat related fault with the cro, the old B&W 511. It OK when cold.

Nice work!

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2009, 02:41:29 PM »
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2009, 03:09:47 PM »
That's Peppi's pages those have been around for a long time. It's not the complete collection but it is one of the largest collections you'll find on the net. I have never seen any single resource for everything tesla has had a hand in and or a patent for in one location. There seems to be one or two more that pop up every so often that are not in the lists. The guy was a work animal not big having a life or friends or family. If he couldn't coil it,make it spark or vibrate it was of no interest to him.
  On the other hand he would have never gotten half that work done if had other interests. I like to imagine he made the ultimate sacrifice for sake of humanity but it is more likely people in general just really pissed him off with the useless babble and self indulgence.
 Babble, the other occupation when work is just to darn much like work.lol

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2009, 04:03:05 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7769.0;attach=36035;image

This could be possibly a scalar wave.
“Scalar waves are produced when two electromagnetic waves of the same frequency are exactly out of phase (opposite to each other) and the amplitudes subtract and cancel or destroy each other. The result is not exactly an annihilation of magnetic fields but a transformation of energy back into a scalar wave. The scalar field has reverted back to a vacuum state of potentiality. Scalar waves can be created by wrapping electrical wires around a figure eight in the shape of a möbius coil. When an electric current flows through the wires in opposite directions, the opposing electromagnetic fields from the two wires cancel each other and create a scalar wave.”
The Nodes shown on the waveform may be where the 2 identical frequency's intersect. From what I see of the pic you do have 2 identical frequency's in opposite phase.
Stubblefield may have condensed or tuned these frequency's which may account for the glowing of the earth.   

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2009, 05:48:01 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7769.0;attach=36035;image

This could be possibly a scalar wave.
“Scalar waves are produced when two electromagnetic waves of the same frequency are exactly out of phase (opposite to each other) and the amplitudes subtract and cancel or destroy each other. The result is not exactly an annihilation of magnetic fields but a transformation of energy back into a scalar wave. The scalar field has reverted back to a vacuum state of potentiality. Scalar waves can be created by wrapping electrical wires around a figure eight in the shape of a möbius coil. When an electric current flows through the wires in opposite directions, the opposing electromagnetic fields from the two wires cancel each other and create a scalar wave.”
The Nodes shown on the waveform may be where the 2 identical frequency's intersect. From what I see of the pic you do have 2 identical frequency's in opposite phase.
Stubblefield may have condensed or tuned these frequency's which may account for the glowing of the earth.   

Actually, i believe this to be Three (3) waves.
(120-degrees out of phase with each other?)
This is visible during a few seconds of Bills scope video, when he has the divisions set right to see them. Its identicle to a 3-phase motor/generator signal.

[Edit:]  It is my opinion that the focus should be on shifting these 3 waves into phase with one another.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2009, 05:51:10 PM »

You cannot connect them in series.
I don't care what that long article says. You can't do it.

jeanna

Jeanna,

you CAN if you separate them with enough ground inbetween, such that the impedance of the earth is greater than the impedance of your EB circuit.

OR

separate your EBs into dirt-filled cans.

Both of these have been done many many times..

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2009, 06:16:23 PM »
@ Bill and Jeanna

after taking another look at the JT circuits
its not really the construction of the joule-thief that confuses me..

its more the functionality..  what seperates this from any other I/C circuit with a transistor??

i dont understand what exactly it is "supposed to do"?

What i see is a time variance on a DC input, such that its only "on" a % of the time that it would normally be without the JT.  The result is a quick-pulsed DC, which draws less on the battery than a solid input.  what im missing here, is evidence of any "energy gain"... and thus how would such a JT circuit help us in increasing the energy of an earth battery??


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2009, 07:31:44 PM »
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It is my opinion that the focus should be on shifting these 3 waves into phase with one another.
How would you do that on one channel?

 

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