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Author Topic: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments  (Read 257436 times)

Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #180 on: July 23, 2009, 08:33:51 AM »
Smokey:

The JT circuit is simple...at least for the simple version which is all you need.  No cap on the JT, no secondary, just a bifilar winding on a 1" ferrite toroid and use a 1k resistor and a 2n3904 transistor.  There is a very good Instructables on how to make the simple one: http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-Joule-Thief/

That is what I used to make my first one.  26 ga. wire, wound bifilar and the components I mentioned above.  This will take a AA battery down to almost nothing.  I have many lights around my house running on "dead" batteries.

The supercap I mentioned will not be part of the JT circuit but will be wired in parallel with your EB.

Very easy to do and it is not the same as using an ic. (like the 555 timer)  It is way more efficient, and if you get into some of the advanced stuff being done on the JT topic, you can get up to 1,300 volts from a single "dead" AA battery.

Hope this helps.

Bil

Awesome..1,300v from a dead battery...and people say it converts amps into volts...that is alot of volts from a dead ''aa'' and is in the realms of awesome again :)..must be some kind of overunity effect.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #181 on: July 23, 2009, 08:39:19 AM »
Liftdaniel,

I think that was a lie to discourage any real research on stubblefield.
I wish it would just stop being repeated.
It was a rumor and stated as that in the beginning.
There was never any real evidence except a divorce and a child who did not live to be adult..
Not very good evidence for radium, if you ask me.

It was an inductor which used the moving pulsing em field of the earth currents.
It was basically a joule thief with a secondary.
I have written about this on the stubblefield thread.
Inductors were commonly used back then as your reading has certainly already told you.

And on and on.

But not radium. That was just a rumor.

jeanna

Alright...my intention is to keep it open minded..not to discourage...i'll stay with the radium along with its ion effects...unless you don't want to buy that from that old book..or find out..... http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:c3afvkX8RnsJ:www.onderzoekinformatie.nl/nl/oi/nod/onderzoek/OND1296916/+radium+ion&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=opera .

The ions in the air from the thunderstorm regarding pirate did cause his earth batterys to make that electric waveform which appears that people who know pirate and pirate knowing his scope is not faulty...pirate found out...

I understand the misconception but i like to iron it out..the intention of those days were overunity.

Yea i know you can get electric from radium.......but it does have ions....where dealing with ions and we already know we can get electric from it so i'll leave it there.

There is the evidence..before i speak..i'll show you..if you question that and the damp nah saying regarding radium but oh course..i see the ion side of it and i do believe it and that like pyramid height...the higher you go regarding ions the more volts so to speak you get...these earth batterys and of course the way you put it...sure ions..but for the sake of not crossing the line..i won't go there :).

Yea i know you can get electric from radium.......but it does have ions....where dealing with ions and we already know we can get electric from it so i'll leave it there.


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #182 on: July 23, 2009, 08:40:15 AM »
Jeanna:

Those links were on my other hard drive but I found this and we can search from there.  This is the Troy Cory show who was Stubblefield's grandson.  (I had thought is was Bernard who had the show)  If we search through all of these shows we will find it.  I will do it when I get time.

This show is where they open Nathan's old trunk to see what is inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzN-FdckEhU


Found another related:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsXFfa9DVY&feature=related

Here is a good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNSCdJP2Og&feature=related

Still not it but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0W3_E2p8cM


Bill
« Last Edit: July 23, 2009, 09:00:48 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #183 on: July 23, 2009, 09:26:55 AM »
altrez  Jeanna  electricme

thanks for the reply the plates used back this way for the earth batt are

galvanized corrugated roofing  iron size is 8 meters 50 cm width and height

is

3 meters 70cm and the copper pipes very in length from about 3 meters 5cm

I used old pipe from the local scrap merchant  also

the reading from the multimeter  screen reads 2300 ma im guessing that

means milla amps still tomorrow i will get some batteries for the camera and

post some pics of the readings  once i have done that then i will add the

extra plate and pipe set to bring the earth batt up to four sets of pipes and

plates the earth battery is wired in parallel for current 


                                        regards shane :)


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #184 on: July 23, 2009, 09:33:44 AM »
Nightshade:

Nice work, and welcome.  You said you hoped to get to 1 amp soon but 2300 mA's is 2.3 amps.  This is probably microamps as Jeanna said.  Unless my math is wrong, this would still be 230 mA's which is almost 1/4 of an amp and that is very good!  Keep up the good work.  If you really are getting 2.3 amps, and I hope you are, we all need to replicate your design.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #185 on: July 23, 2009, 10:28:09 AM »
Nightshade:

Nice work, and welcome.  You said you hoped to get to 1 amp soon but 2300 mA's is 2.3 amps.  This is probably microamps as Jeanna said.  Unless my math is wrong, this would still be 230 mA's which is almost 1/4 of an amp and that is very good!  Keep up the good work.  If you really are getting 2.3 amps, and I hope you are, we all need to replicate your design.

Bill

Your maths is fine.. 1000ma is 1amp.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #186 on: July 23, 2009, 10:30:24 AM »
altrez  Jeanna  electricme

thanks for the reply the plates used back this way for the earth batt are

galvanized corrugated roofing  iron size is 8 meters 50 cm width and height

is

3 meters 70cm and the copper pipes very in length from about 3 meters 5cm

I used old pipe from the local scrap merchant  also

the reading from the multimeter  screen reads 2300 ma im guessing that

means milla amps still tomorrow i will get some batteries for the camera and

post some pics of the readings  once i have done that then i will add the

extra plate and pipe set to bring the earth batt up to four sets of pipes and

plates the earth battery is wired in parallel for current 


                                        regards shane :)

Welcome to this forum/thread..nice..your pole must be long because it digs deeper into the earth or conducts ions better, or the surface area getting more ions so to speak like a tall pyramid that is like 500 meters high getting more electric being converted via emf-rf..but this is similar but yea same area.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #187 on: July 23, 2009, 11:30:35 AM »
@nightshade,

The mind boggles at these figures.
2.300ma is as Pirate said, 2.3amps, man oh man, your electrodes would qualify in the guinnes book of records. ;D

Shane, go on, add a few more plates into this EB, wow. :D

Don't stick the lead out wires on the tounge, you will do your self a very nasty inturnal DC burn, please be careful.

roofing iron, roofing iron, it musta taken you ages to make a hole for that lot lol

A photo of your EB will make it on my wall, fairdimkum, well a screensaver anyway.

I like it when someone thinks really big.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #188 on: July 23, 2009, 01:22:19 PM »
@nightshade,

The mind boggles at these figures.
2.300ma is as Pirate said, 2.3amps, man oh man, your electrodes would qualify in the guinnes book of records. ;D

Shane, go on, add a few more plates into this EB, wow. :D

Don't stick the lead out wires on the tounge, you will do your self a very nasty inturnal DC burn, please be careful.

roofing iron, roofing iron, it musta taken you ages to make a hole for that lot lol

A photo of your EB will make it on my wall, fairdimkum, well a screensaver anyway.

I like it when someone thinks really big.

jim

I got some wild ideas for this...instead of useing ground wires...use the earths own electrical system...at the end of the day it is basicly rf-re...well yea......anyways telegrath is like a pulsed sine wave...thus is it possible for us to have internet with our lovely earth batterys...somehow but is possible....they done it with telegraph...if anyone doubts this...email over rf so to speak.

So if the internet goes down at 2012...we will have a handy backup...http://digg.com/tech_news/2012_The_Year_The_Internet_Ends ..http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/canada_net_censorship.html..yea maybe not broadband speed but could be possible...i got to understand earth currents better...hook it up to the earth battery positive negative...turn it into like a broadband signal...or rf related and have binary over the earths electrical system..

Wunderbar i love you guys :D.

Instead of this i would use the earths ionosphere to amplify the radio and then this http://www.docksideradio.com/ptcii.htm for a better signal...or via earth batterys...yep paving the way to certain results.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2009, 01:53:34 PM by lltfdaniel1 »

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #189 on: July 23, 2009, 03:22:14 PM »
I got some wild ideas for this...instead of useing ground wires...use the earths own electrical system...at the end of the day it is basicly rf-re...well yea......anyways telegrath is like a pulsed sine wave...thus is it possible for us to have internet with our lovely earth batterys...somehow but is possible....they done it with telegraph...if anyone doubts this...email over rf so to speak.

So if the internet goes down at 2012...we will have a handy backup...http://digg.com/tech_news/2012_The_Year_The_Internet_Ends ..http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/canada_net_censorship.html..yea maybe not broadband speed but could be possible...i got to understand earth currents better...hook it up to the earth battery positive negative...turn it into like a broadband signal...or rf related and have binary over the earths electrical system..

Wunderbar i love you guys :D.

Instead of this i would use the earths ionosphere to amplify the radio and then this http://www.docksideradio.com/ptcii.htm for a better signal...or via earth batterys...yep paving the way to certain results.

That's a great idea.. I wonder how we could get a small test to work?  what would be needed.

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #190 on: July 23, 2009, 05:13:39 PM »
i added a JT to my earth battery this morning.

these LEDs i have arent lighting up from that, i might try finding some smaller LEDs. mine are pretty hefty
under normal circumstances they absolutely will NOT turn on with anything less than 0.7v @ 30ma.
straight off the EB im only getting 2.5ma
as of this morning, voltage has risen to 0.6v

i'll leave it hooked up for now and see how it goes over time.

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #191 on: July 23, 2009, 06:04:58 PM »
That's a great idea.. I wonder how we could get a small test to work?  what would be needed.

-Altrez

Well i'd basicly have to study pactor modems very carefully they deal with emf-rf...if the speed is enough just for email..well yippe better than nothing we can still experiment with email...distance will hardly be a factor anyways...these earth batterys round the world being reported here is interlinked as we speak to the earths rf but amplifing techniques anyway possible to get more amps etc.

A test well start with simple pulsing telegrapth technique..where it will go well someone will notice it..may notice a jump as it is effecting the earth as a whole...it is like putting a stone and throwing it across the river and it jumps..or like jumps back down etc...or hit a stone in the water and what you get is great big resonance ripples..if you view these earth currents as like if someone builded it there then walla...may as well call it the gulf stream of the emf world...were not talking about mere millwatts more like enough power to run every household on the earth.

Well if read about free electrons and the earth it needs a emf for it to get more free electrons and thus with the emf yanking these free electrons to go with the flow of the emf what you get is more emf...but then with this you are getting power from the earth..so hmm...i read somewhere that a guy had it on emf and then quickly put the connector to the ground..well two of them connected to the ground after one was connected to emf or something...then put it into the ground..it acts like a way to get these currents to be attracted to well you know magnets and emf so yea...prehaps.

Basicly email over rf they have a host server whichs converts the pulses or whatever through emf-rf capacitor field and then into binary and thus walla..i know it is possible with earth batterys..anyways carry on with the datalogging some interesting results are coming through.

When tesla described this radiant energy like a gas...here is a clue.. As in the Drude model, valence electrons are assumed to be completely detached from their ions (forming an electron gas)..i can't go to much into mainstream science but this will give you at least an idea of the process.

He had found a means by which this gaseous electrical flow could be greatly concentrated, magnified, and directed. He saw that this radiant electricity was, in reality, a gaseous emanation. An Aetheric emanation(must be other dimension goes into zpe realm it did have scalar effects..i have read about the magnetic resonance amplifier regarding high q tuneing resonance as i am a firm believe in tom bearden). This is why he made constant reference to fluidic terminology ?

Please consider this..these earth batterys are easy to understand and you have read that tesla had helped stubblefield so yea..wished this guy scanned my keely book to give you an idea of resonance which gives more out than in...to give you an idea on how old the universe..it happened with out beginning and is with out end...zpe speed is instant like now whatever distance...constantly recycleing it self not running out and createing and de createing stuff..whilst it exists....can i bring god into this..science says someone designed the human body... http://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience this is how i understand the big stuff about zpe...when he crossed time that deals with quantum time domain.

This is just to make it understandable in todays lauguage..take it or leave it i suppose..please keep away from mainstream sciences view on it...tom bearden stated that telsa was basicly dealing with zpe...so you tap into the earths ionosphere with an input...you get a loud Woah back from it..if you or if you have not read about the ionospheric resonance effect..you really ought to read it..it is like a amplifer in the middle of a ocean to make the signal stronger but this is resonance effect regarding that in conjuction with the earth..thus tapping the earth because you can point this back and convert it into power..the power came from the 'earth'.

I have explained it this way for you to better have an idea...but do not rule out zpe it is the magic 3...regarding 3 space.

So if your like well what-if well.....i know deep down this is not so...well your right...when i was like 8 or 9 i had ideas regarding the obvious sticky point...or use something to bypass it... well the bypass is 2 this zpe is 3...all interlinked and like time zpe is instant and electric well slower right..zpe has to be in harmony which has created everything in the universe..and here on earth like a catalyst..so please keep open minded about it and look at a method of extracting zpe which is here http://www.scribd.com/doc/10316855/Magnetic-Resonant-Amplifier .

I don't mean to put anyone off..but this is my realistic way of putting it..tesla basicly jacked it up with this..and if a commcerial man like Tariel can do it then so can you..if you want to learn..aether well at that time it was a mystery but they knew what it was..and they also knew about the zpe effect and used that to.

If you feel this is not correct then please add or just carry on adding stuff regarding datalogging.
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« Reply #192 on: July 23, 2009, 08:55:33 PM »
@lltfdaniel1

Very interesting read.. I will look at the links.

Take care!

-Altrez

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #193 on: July 23, 2009, 09:45:08 PM »
i added a JT to my earth battery this morning.

these LEDs i have arent lighting up from that, i might try finding some smaller LEDs. mine are pretty hefty
under normal circumstances they absolutely will NOT turn on with anything less than 0.7v @ 30ma.
straight off the EB im only getting 2.5ma
as of this morning, voltage has risen to 0.6v

i'll leave it hooked up for now and see how it goes over time.
I actually think it is not the led but the transistor you need to look at.
I think the germanium transistor might be some help, but maybe just some more time.
You have nearly doubled the voltage from yesterday, so it might be close to 1v tomorrow.
I do think you must have enough to turn on the transistor. I am still working on this too.

I am also going in the direction of adding a stubblefield generator to act as an antenna along with/in between the 2 single probes.
It added considerably to otherwise puny results last year to do this, and I am just now, looking at the NS generators again. I am being sidetracked by watching how much RE they are picking up.

It is all coming together.

So, Sm0ky2...
Keep thinking and trying new things.
They will all add up someday soon.

Good work bye the way,

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #194 on: July 24, 2009, 06:03:46 AM »
my problem is definately my LED's...

i just tried all 6 types of LEDs that i have,. none of them will turn on with a single AA battery. i need 2 batteries to make them turn on..

does anyone know where to get a low voltage LED?