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Author Topic: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments  (Read 222620 times)

Offline nueview

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2009, 10:23:11 PM »

i just may try some of these again but my last post made me realize something so i need to build a special JT way out there in concept and no battery just a ground.

charging batteries is my main interest but will help here if i can.

@ Jesus
you did some very impressive work on your pulse motor and you definitely deserve a round of applause you get it from me, because i was trying to do the same but with an induction motor and you gave me some new ideas am still working on this, more Tesla car type things it seems to be more reality than fiction even if others don't get it.

@ IST
would like to see more of your battery charging circuit and three phase driver circuits it is really good work you are doing.

@ all
this group has some of the best people at the site am proud to have met you all.

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Offline electricme

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #151 on: July 22, 2009, 06:04:56 AM »
@ Jeanna,

Jim,
My scope is not backlit.
I believe Altrez' is also not.

pyramid with a hole at the top for camera and see if this could help. Otherwise, I think a beach umbrella or tarp kind of thing might work.

Do you mean that you can see a movie without actually downloading it?
I hope people are interested enough to look.

Thanks,

jeanna

Hmmmm, not backlit, that makes it interresting, it seems the glare is the problem. (my adjustable power supply hasn't got backlighting, I must fix this)
If you cover the display blocking all light it defeats the purpose.
Perhaps an opaque material would do.
I used a towel over my head a couple of times but the towel ends got in the way and was annoying.
If you look at the very first drawing pic I took, it has coloured wires on it and a scope with a datalogger, you can see the edge of the towel just sneaking in, bottom right corner.

If you just left click on the Video paperclip, the video will download, and the video player will pop up and play the video.
If you want to save the video to play it later on, right click on the paperclip, you should be able to save where ever you want to on your pc.

The person who is interrested will see the videos and play them, don't worry about not enough people not seeing them, as this thread grows and I think it will by the quality of people on here.

I'm only worried of stretching myself over several forums now, I might have to do the unthinkable and curtail my posting just to keep up, its all very very exciting stuff.

jim





 

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #152 on: July 22, 2009, 06:09:36 AM »
Smoky:

The North end is supposed to be the deepest, just in case you didn't know.  I am in South Central Kentucky and our numbers are not all that different it seems. I am at +65 degrees 51 minutes here.  Best of luck with it.  I am sure you will have many hours of fun experimenting and seeing what can be done with these.

Bill

Really??  that seems counter-intuitive but i'll have to take your word for it, 100% of my experience with EB's has been in the horizontal plane. (i.e. NOT taking advantage of the magnetic inclination), i assumed by the calculator showing a (+) positive number, that it went "up" to the north..
guess i got it backwards...  Thanks !

[edit:] after giving it more thought, we are in the northern hmisphere, so i suppose the north magnetic pole 'would be' deeper here....

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #153 on: July 22, 2009, 06:33:11 AM »
@ Smoky2

Really??  that seems counter-intuitive but i'll have to take your word for it, 100% of my experience with EB's has been in the horizontal plane. (i.e. NOT taking advantage of the magnetic inclination), i assumed by the calculator showing a (+) positive number, that it went "up" to the north..
guess i got it backwards...  Thanks !

[edit:] after giving it more thought, we are in the northern hmisphere, so i suppose the north magnetic pole 'would be' deeper here....

Actually, I'm glad this point was raised between you and Bill, because I beginning to think I made a boo boo with my round disk EC. Is it possible to put a EC in the ground upside down?

I went to here  http://www.4shared.com/file92366887/ad3b1eb6/Free_Energy_-_Free-electricity_From_The_Earth.html and on page 10 it shows a setup, the copper is facing downwards.

So, hmmmm, its thinking time again for me, if I can include some of these ideas into my own setup here, would I get more out? we will seeeeeee.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #154 on: July 22, 2009, 06:35:38 AM »
Really??  that seems counter-intuitive but i'll have to take your word for it, 100% of my experience with EB's has been in the horizontal plane. (i.e. NOT taking advantage of the magnetic inclination), i assumed by the calculator showing a (+) positive number, that it went "up" to the north..
guess i got it backwards...  Thanks !

[edit:] after giving it more thought, we are in the northern hmisphere, so i suppose the north magnetic pole 'would be' deeper here....

Smoky:

You raise an interesting point here.  I never gave much thought to hemispheres.  Perhaps Jim down under can shed some light on this.  I just know from experience that what I have read works here...in KY and I can make no assumptions on how it may or may not work in the other hemisphere.

The work I studied was done by the Russians, and Stubblefield and...guess what? Northern hemisphere.

This is why we as a group from all over the world can try different things and, then we can go with what works.  I don't ever want to say that I know the "best" or "only" way to do this....far from it.  I just dislike those few comments I get on youtube where some say they "tried" it and only got .0025 volts.  One fellow even accused me of hiding a battery off camera.  Oh well.

Excellent point that we should possibly get some feedback to and see if it does matter where on this planet one is.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #155 on: July 22, 2009, 10:49:21 AM »
I just dislike those few comments I get on youtube where some say they "tried" it and only got .0025 volts.  One fellow even accused me of hiding a battery off camera.

"mediocrity is self-inflicted. genius is self-bestowed." - walter russell

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #156 on: July 22, 2009, 02:29:48 PM »
Hi all

been following this discussion lots of really good info here  my earth battery

this way dropped in voltage 0.85 and current 1500ma for about two months

and it has just started to put out its old voltage 0.92

and current again 2300 ma I have not setup my batt this way with

declination in mind just bury my plates about two meters in the ground and

cross my fingers not very scientific but seems to work also the jule thief is

working again what amazes me is when I do my testing wires on tongue i

can taste that current so im going to add a fourth peer of plates to get

more juice trying for 1 amp i hope here in little old kiwi land

                                    regards shane


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #157 on: July 22, 2009, 03:29:43 PM »
@nightshade

That's cool! so are you getting micro amps now? As in your current output is 0.0023 Amps?

@All

So has anyone got close to 1 AMP output yet? And how is everyone testing output?

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #158 on: July 22, 2009, 03:55:37 PM »
@Nightshade,

Giday kiwi, you are just a jump across the pond to me, lol, good to see you here.

Hi all

been following this discussion lots of really good info here  my earth battery

this way dropped in voltage 0.85 and current 1500ma for about two months

and it has just started to put out its old voltage 0.92

and current again 2300 ma I have not setup my batt this way with

declination in mind just bury my plates about two meters in the ground and

cross my fingers not very scientific but seems to work also the joule thief is

working again what amazes me is when I do my testing wires on tongue i

can taste that current so I'm going to add a fourth peer of plates to get

more juice trying for 1 amp i hope here in little old kiwi land

                                    regards shane

Hmmm you can taste the current, geeeee your brave mate.
Last time I did that with my old setup, I got one mighty big whack on my tongue, didn't have time to know what the taste was like, my tongue felt like it was being branded with a hot iron, squeezed, burning, and flapping all at the same time, ha ha ha a bit like IST on the JT forum, (nice cartoon there) lol.

Now that I have recovered from laughing at myself for the last couple of minutes, it looks like you have some experience with EB placements, 2300ma is pretty good for a EB, if you add more plates you will get more out of it.

BTW, you haven't mentioned the sizes of the plates or the types, copper, Steel, Ally, Magnesium etc.

I can see I'll have to get on the blower to Bill shortly and ask him about dip angles, I am thoroughly confused in this area.
Don't worry about the taste test, or should I say, be careful doing that, if lightning hits near you while you are doing it, you might look like over fried frazzled chook.

Thanks for the post Shane, good work.

jim

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #159 on: July 22, 2009, 09:25:41 PM »
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and it has just started to put out its old voltage 0.92
and current again 2300 ma I have not setup my batt this way with declination in mind just bury my plates about two meters in the ground.
 
I guess you must mean uA since you are hoping to get 1 amp someday?

I would like to know the dimensions details if you would provide them, please.


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also the jule thief is working again
Cool

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what amazes me is when I do my testing wires on tongue
So, I have this wonderful picture of you connected to the EB by your tongue and your eyes lighting up like a slot machine!

thanks shane,

jeanna


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #160 on: July 23, 2009, 03:12:05 AM »
@ Bill

i have verified with my compass, North is in fact "down".
and its dead on at 67-degrees.

so my 5-foot pipe should be perfect.
when i triangulate the distance between my electrodes, limited by the fence, it puts the hypotenuse right at 67-degrees.

so, the only problem i have right now is the fact that my 5-ft pipe is stainles steel, and the other electrode is copper sheets.

this is of course backwards to the reccomended metal-types
for each particular electrode....

that being said::  many of us have 'ruled out' galvonic reaction as a source. So my question is "why" would it matter which end north/south has the steel and which has the copper?

im gonna go ahead with what i have and post the results soon.

hopefully i wont be pulling a 5-ft pipe out of the ground to replace it with a copper one (lol)


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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #161 on: July 23, 2009, 03:54:54 AM »








The stronger currents flow from south to north.
The current produced is highest when the two metals are most widely separated from each other in the electropotential series and that the material nearer the positive end is to the north, while that at the negative end is towards the south.
Lord Kelvin observed that such variables as placement of the electrodes in the magnetic field and the direction of mediums's flow affected the current output of his device.
http://www.rexresearch.com/erthbatry/erthbatry.htm

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #162 on: July 23, 2009, 04:01:30 AM »
@ Bill

i have verified with my compass, North is in fact "down".
and its dead on at 67-degrees.

so my 5-foot pipe should be perfect.
when i triangulate the distance between my electrodes, limited by the fence, it puts the hypotenuse right at 67-degrees.

so, the only problem i have right now is the fact that my 5-ft pipe is stainles steel, and the other electrode is copper sheets.

this is of course backwards to the reccomended metal-types
for each particular electrode....

that being said::  many of us have 'ruled out' galvonic reaction as a source. So my question is "why" would it matter which end north/south has the steel and which has the copper?

im gonna go ahead with what i have and post the results soon.

hopefully i wont be pulling a 5-ft pipe out of the ground to replace it with a copper one (lol)

Smokey:

Well, I believe what Iotayodi posted is correct.  But, if you have the materials such as you do and go ahead and try it...what the heck.  We all might learn something here.  My only problem if it was me, was that no matter what juice I got out of it that way, I would always wonder how much more I might have obtained the other way.  But that's me.  Hey, I got excited when I made a few adjustments here and there and got another .3 volts.

Hey, since you are in my state, good luck getting anything into the ground 5 feet, ha ha.  Maybe not where you are but around here, very rocky...a lot of limestone.

Let us know how you make out, and good luck.

Bill

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #163 on: July 23, 2009, 04:18:29 AM »

so, the only problem i have right now is the fact that my 5-ft pipe is stainles steel, and the other electrode is copper sheets.

this is of course backwards to the reccomended metal-types
for each particular electrode....
...
hopefully i wont be pulling a 5-ft pipe out of the ground to replace it with a copper one (lol)
Roll up the sheets and lay down the pipe? Sounds like a dance.

 :D

jeanna

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Re: Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments
« Reply #164 on: July 23, 2009, 04:44:49 AM »
It seems that this sea battery is a way to jack up the volts and amps, if the other end is bigger the other is forced to matched so it goes up, regarding volts and amps.

It has been found that all the common metals behave relatively similarly. The two spaced electrodes, having a load in an external circuit connected between them, are disposed in an electrical medium, and energy is imparted to the medium in such manner that "free electrons" in the medium are excited. The free electrons then flow into one electrode to a greater degree than in the other electrode, thereby causing electric current to flow in the external circuit through the load.

This as i already knew explains why you got those strange results from your...what is it called :p? pirate


 

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