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Author Topic: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM  (Read 6798 times)

Offline tammons

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Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« on: July 11, 2009, 07:07:49 PM »
Testing a single set of 316L tubes, 1" and .75" with about 1mm +- gap.

Have a VP techno PWM.

I assume the pulse controls the steady frequency of the pulse.

Lookes like the gate adjustment provides a secondary frequency over the pulse frequency, but I dont really understand the theory of what to do with each.

So far I have read you want to set the pulse to the frequency of H2o. Makes sense to rip apart the water molecules, but what does the gate do ??


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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 07:54:32 PM »
I think the gate ( which turns a continuous string of pulses into a string of groups of pulses separated by "silence") is to try to make a mechanical stimulus to help shake the bubbles of evolved gas off the electrodes, so new water can get in and be electrolysed by the higher freq of the pulses. So, I think, the gate is supposed to set up these vibrations at acoustic freqs, and I try to get some mechanical resonance here by figuring the resonant freq of the mechanical parts--the electrode tubes for example--and then tuning gate around that freq. to try to shake things up.

But that's just what I've figured out over the years, your mileage will probably vary.

One problem I've had is that the water between the electrodes can actually boil (subtly) and release unelectrolysed steam or water vapor, which can really flmp with your gas volume calculations. Evolved gas volume should be measured downstream of a really good dessicator module, and the interelectrode space should be monitored for temperature to assure you aren't boiling the water.

Offline tammons

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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 08:05:44 PM »
Wondered if that was what is was for.

So....

Set the pulse for the vibrational frequency of H2o water molecules ??

Set the gate to the frequncy of the tubes to shake the bubbles off ??

If so Sounds simple enough.


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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 08:05:44 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 08:52:20 PM »
Yeh, sounds simple.
One problem is the choice of frequency. I'm sure that by now you've looked at Puharich's ideas; everyone I read seems to have a different idea what the optimum freq would be. It makes sense to me to try to resonate the H-O bond until it snaps...but the resonant freq of that bond is beyond the range of most of our circuits.
Resonating the weak H---O hydrogen bond between two water molecules is more possible in the freq range commonly used--but that has nothing to do with releasing H or O, it just vaporizes or evaporates the water--it's still water. But it can look like more gas evolution...

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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 06:35:36 PM »
I'm assuming since you talk about frequency of your cell that you are trying to create resonance? You are not resonating the water, the water only acts as a dielectric. Resonance in this case is an electrical phenomena, where the reactance of an capacitor and inductor cancel each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_reactance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit

You need to measure the capacitance of your cell and inductance of your chokes to calculate the frequency needed. So each cell will be a different frequency, thus all the different values you see.

As for your pulse gate, the theory is each pulse yanks out some electrons after enough pulsing at resonance water will lose its electrons and the atoms will no longer be bonded. Then you gate the pulses allowing the charge to balance and the + nuclei to float to the surface.


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Re: Help with Pulse and gate settings on a PWM
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 06:35:36 PM »
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