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Author Topic: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces  (Read 8369 times)

Offline lmzxc

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Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« on: March 24, 2010, 04:56:04 AM »
A magnet motor that does not use repelling forces;  there are three circles of gears.  Circle 3 gears have 140 teeth, and the other gears have 70 teeth.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets are in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  Green dot = magnet attached to gear 2 inches above gear; purple dot = magnet attached to gear 6 inches above gear; green circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gear; purple circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gear.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on one-inch thread rod attached to up side of center gear holder.

The next model will have 2-inch thread rod beneath the rotating arms, and gear holders will be pointing down so that the two-inch-wide steel rings can be controlled from beneath, and the top of the motor will be used for a gear or pulley for transferring rotational force to an electrical generator.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2010, 10:43:43 AM by lmzxc »

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 05:11:28 AM »
The design in the picture above did not work.  I received a 140-tooth gear today and tested it on the prototype, and it did not keep what would be the magnets moving parrallel to what would be the rings.  The circular rings need to be replaced by curved pieces of metal slanting in and out along the paths of the two magnets attached to the 140-tooth gear (see picture below).  I hope to have a working prototype within 10 days.  lmzxc
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 08:22:42 AM by lmzxc »

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 09:40:47 PM »
Quote
The design in the picture above did not work.  I received a 140-tooth gear today and tested it on the prototype, and it did not keep what would be the magnets moving parrallel to what would be the rings.  The circular rings need to be replaced by curved pieces of metal slanting in and out along the paths of the two magnets attached to the 140-tooth gear (see picture below).  I hope to have a working prototype within 10 days.  lmzxc
My 2 cents:
Members if overunity.com will still ask for a working device for 3 month to a year after the 10 days have expired, and you will probably never show up with a working model ;D Anyways, that is the standard procedure for everyone that claims they have found a way to make a working magnet motor.

Remember you allways take into account that it might be a counterforce in the motor that fights back - most probably by an unexpected counter torque of some sort.

After being a member of overunity.com for a while, I have learned by mistake many times, spent too much time in motor that never turned up to be a working one, ideas that only see what it wants to see etc. etc. There have been many "what if" questions, but every time there has been something that due to the nature of forces, gravity or whatever, has forced the ideas into the trash can. One cannot trick nature that easy ;)

Br. and have a happy Easter holiday

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 09:40:47 PM »
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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2010, 09:05:38 AM »
I have modified the design for the prototype; am in the process of getting more gears.  lmzxc 
« Last Edit: April 04, 2010, 11:28:07 AM by lmzxc »

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 01:10:13 AM »
I have modified the design for the prototype a second time; am in the process of getting more gears.  lmzxc

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 06:05:01 AM »
Why do you need gears at all? Maybe a fixed track is better?

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 08:50:04 PM »
Gears make possible precise positioning of magnets in relation to curved metal, and precise repetitions of previous motions of magnets.  The pull of a magnet relates to the inverse of the square of the distance.  The pull of a magnet is four times as much at a distance of .050 of an inch compared to a distance of .100 of an inch.

I believe a mistake of the past is trying to build a permanent magnet motor based on the design and action of an electric motor.  Permanent magnets are different than electromagnets, and a design for a permanent magnet motor that is useful probably will look different than a design for a motor powered by electromagnets.

Since the 1970's inventors have been playing around with permanent magnet motors that are built like electromagnet motors, and you do not see any cars or motorcycles on the streets powered by permanent magnets.  Some will say this is because of politics; the real reason probably is that a practical permanent magnet motor has not yet been built because an inventor has not yet developed a design for a practical permanent magnet motor.  lmzxc

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2010, 04:49:12 AM »
(4-17-2010) After observing the action of the mock-up for the prototype, it seems that we have a design that will work.  The curved metal is on one moving gear, and the magnet is on another moving gear.  Instead of one force counter-balancing the other force resulting in 0 net force, it seems in this case the two forces are moving together, and it seems this will result in a net positive force and rotational movement.

In the pictures the white wire is in the place of where curved metal would be on the finished prototype, and the red wire is in the place of where curved metal would be on the finished prototype.  lmzxc

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2010, 04:51:58 AM »
That looks promising.

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Re: Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
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Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 10:03:35 AM »
Magnet Motor Design (4-17-2010) (arms not rotating and center gear rotating)
In the pictures the white wire is in the place of where curved metal would be on the finished prototype, and the red wire is in the place of where curved metal would be on the finished prototype.  lmzxc

 

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