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Author Topic: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity  (Read 6515 times)

eonfluxs7

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Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« on: June 29, 2009, 05:34:49 PM »
Hi all,

I made calculation on how we can make power plant from gravity. This calculation follows the Logistic Map Equation in Non-Linear Mathematic. You may know that Logistic Map Equation describes the natural growth. This time, we will grow the energy.

Check my calculation here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmvYocPDrjM

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 02:53:39 PM »
No reply?

Well, here my understanding about gravity and why we can produce energy from gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPXivsrqnk 

Xaverius

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2009, 06:37:17 PM »
No reply?

Well, here my understanding about gravity and why we can produce energy from gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hPXivsrqnk

Amazing concepts.  Any plans available for a working device?

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 08:27:45 PM »
 seems that we have to make a tower to make the device. But, we can ‘bend’ the space time to make it compact. We also have to consider about friction force and air drag….

Yes, I had made the brief design, but still on some pieces of papers. I hope I can make come true. It require much money to make it, will you fund me?  ;D

BTW, I had uploaded the new video about my understanding of gravity. I hope I can introduce to the educational institution, so we can find whether my understanding is right or wrong. If it right, it will be “the independence day” of my free energy research. Perhaps, other researchers too.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je5VOOaFcyU

AB Hammer

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 11:30:48 PM »
eonfluxs7

I am finding the youtube videos very interesting.

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 04:09:13 PM »
eonfluxs7

I am finding the youtube videos very interesting.

Thanks, AB Hammer!

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 04:15:28 PM »
  Hi eonfluxs7,
 I had a similar idea where the generator was attached to the bouy.
What I hadn't thought of is what you have. Using a second system to increase the energy potential by allowing gravity to increase it's potential in a secondary fashion.
 That would be when you used springs. With your current design, the ratio of the lever to the float would decrease the amount of energy input into the system from the wave.
 But if the field windings were there own weight being lifted and dropped, then the design could become a single unit. I think it might be something like this that could attract attention.
 I am glad to have met you  :)

                                                           Jim
Why I put the mass and the buoys like that because the idea is to make the mass thrown upward, so we can have longer stroke. But I found an anomaly .....

Nice to meet you too, ...... err... what should I call you, Jim or P-Motion?

Xaverius

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 06:51:14 PM »
seems that we have to make a tower to make the device. But, we can ‘bend’ the space time to make it compact. We also have to consider about friction force and air drag….

Yes, I had made the brief design, but still on some pieces of papers. I hope I can make come true. It require much money to make it, will you fund me?  ;D

BTW, I had uploaded the new video about my understanding of gravity. I hope I can introduce to the educational institution, so we can find whether my understanding is right or wrong. If it right, it will be “the independence day” of my free energy research. Perhaps, other researchers too.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je5VOOaFcyU
Hi, can you please clarify some of the mathematical calculations in your first video?  In my calculations you seem to add the spring energy to the input some of the time but not always.  The numbers I came up with do not correlate to yours.  Could you explain this more?

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 07:26:52 PM »
Hi, can you please clarify some of the mathematical calculations in your first video?  In my calculations you seem to add the spring energy to the input some of the time but not always.  The numbers I came up with do not correlate to yours.  Could you explain this more?

I am sorry, Xaverius. I should made it in three dimension.
Perhaps you may understand if I explain with little logistic map equation.

Ordinary equation state:  X2 = X1 * ( C - X1 )
with C is constant, equal with cumulative input from outer system.

The input of the system ( X1 ) will be powered by ^2, so the system will equal with energy input. This is the ordinary system of gravity where Potential Energy = Kinetic Energy, which usually drawn in two dimension. The graph of this system will look like letter U in upside down position. The output will not more than the outer input (C).

We need to modify the equation to be powered by ^3, like:

X2 = A * X1^2 * ( C - X1 )                   .......................... (1)
or
X2 = X1 * ( C - ( A * X1^2 ) )                  .......................... (2)

So the output may higher than input (C).

Is this possible? Yes. The gravity works in three dimensions, not only two dimensions.

If you watch my other videos, you'll see a power plant system that uses gyroscope. It follows the first equation.

You also can see a power plant system that rotate in horizontal plane. It follows the second equation.

eonfluxs7

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Re: Basic Concept in Apply The Gravity
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 07:30:34 PM »
  eonfluxs7,
 I had a thought. Would you be interested in trying to help design a scale model based on your idea ?
 With something like this, it could take a while. You see, I think your idea is well suited for trying to develop into a system that would generate electricity. And it could be something we would both enjoy trying to make happen.
 Of course, it would also be a good excuse to take a trip to the ocean one day to try it.

                                                                 Jim

Of course Jim. How can I give help?