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Title: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 28, 2009, 07:51:21 AM
1/3 of a tank = base millage (under load)
1/8 used with the GEET/Hydroxy (under same load)

Same distance same route.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqikJrBl-aY

More to come..
Full Rep details in video.

Ash
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: Cloxxki on June 28, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
You guys are doing excellent work! I can tell before I start to truly comprehend what GEET does (if anyone does).

Please confirm:
1/3 tank for the standard trip, this was using normal diesel, unaltered engine, right?
1/8 tank, of what exactly?

I wouldn't mind going down 70% in fuel economy, if my exhaust gasses are clean and my fuel cheap.
So while you're 100% result in economy is great, what does it really mean?

Thanks, and do keep it coming!

On a side note, I hope someone is going to step forward and really make things well for Paul Pantone. Someone like Branson or someone. Preferably for the time being anonimously. Give Paul a trustable team, and good budget, to get clean engines or exhaust systems mass produced. Even if they'd start with a few stardard ones for popular existing (bad economy) cars, that would contribute so much to the environment!
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: dankie on June 28, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
Well my my , if this ends up really working I give my hats off to you .

You have re-earned my respect panacea .
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 29, 2009, 01:50:08 AM
Guys sorry slight typo but still same result
was 1/4 not 1/3 on the base millage but still the SAME result
Double and 100% improvement.

more results to come.
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 29, 2009, 01:54:39 AM
You guys are doing excellent work! I can tell before I start to truly comprehend what GEET does (if anyone does).

Please confirm:
1/3 tank for the standard trip, this was using normal diesel, unaltered engine, right?
1/8 tank, of what exactly?

I wouldn't mind going down 70% in fuel economy, if my exhaust gasses are clean and my fuel cheap.
So while you're 100% result in economy is great, what does it really mean?

Thanks, and do keep it coming!

On a side note, I hope someone is going to step forward and really make things well for Paul Pantone. Someone like Branson or someone. Preferably for the time being anonimously. Give Paul a trustable team, and good budget, to get clean engines or exhaust systems mass produced. Even if they'd start with a few stardard ones for popular existing (bad economy) cars, that would contribute so much to the environment!

Hi Cloxxki

1/4 was the base millage on Diesel
1/8 was with the GEET+ Hydroxy

I sincerely hope those rumors are true. I am in contact with David and Paul ATM and we have already given Paul a 500$ to help, he still needs help to get back on his feet.

Okay the 100% means we are doing double our millage and also we have cleaner exhaust and you can too. Be careful if experimenting with Salt water in the GEET.  It would be nice to have a self generating or fuel reforming threads especially for the GEET etc.

Ash
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: Cloxxki on June 29, 2009, 08:05:54 AM
I feel reporting is lacking, or my understanding.

Just saying hydroxy+GEET is just a bit too few letters for me to fully comprehend the technique used. I seen so many reported here and there.

Are you tanking hydroxy, or making it yourself on board, from ownpower? Just tanking water, or a mix of gasoline and water? GEET implies part-fossile (waste), I seem to recall?

To spread this word across the world, newbies will need to understand the magnitude of accomplishments. Newbie says : you're tanking hydroxy, sure you're getting better mileage. I also get better mileage from high-octane gasoline, and loving it.

Not everyone is a GEET engineer or fully up to speed with all alternative fuel theories.

Thank you, and don't let this keep you from getting the world their Ford Focus (car I want to buy 2nd hand) hydroxy GEET conversion kits.
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 29, 2009, 08:30:28 AM
I feel reporting is lacking, or my understanding.

Just saying hydroxy+GEET is just a bit too few letters for me to fully comprehend the technique used. I seen so many reported here and there.

Are you tanking hydroxy, or making it yourself on board, from ownpower? Just tanking water, or a mix of gasoline and water? GEET implies part-fossile (waste), I seem to recall?

To spread this word across the world, newbies will need to understand the magnitude of accomplishments. Newbie says : you're tanking hydroxy, sure you're getting better mileage. I also get better mileage from high-octane gasoline, and loving it.

Not everyone is a GEET engineer or fully up to speed with all alternative fuel theories.

Thank you, and don't let this keep you from getting the world their Ford Focus (car I want to buy 2nd hand) hydroxy GEET conversion kits.

Hi Cloxxki ill try to simplify for you. Look at the Leo PDF posted in the video description to understand the GEET system
We use a hydroxy on demand system with it, but don't have to.

We add both lines to the air intake- The full  system is described in detail in the PDF.
Any more Q's let me know

Ash
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: Cloxxki on June 29, 2009, 08:50:56 AM
Thanks, I missed that link. However, the link won't work for me.

I'm aware of GEET technology, very logical and nifty, but the way it's being applied here leaves me guessing (hoping).

10% gasoline and 90% water/vinager you say?

So what have you actually been consuming for that particular ride?

Do I understand correctly that you ALSO have a hydroxy on demand system on board, which you have not used for driving the truck as of yet?

If you let the public guessing, spreading this technology will take longer. I've got 2 left hands, but can make my contribution getting simple people to understand, and making clean power something they purchase rather than hire a personal engineer for.

If only engineers and tinkerers (with spare time) start running clean cars, we'll still be up our neck in toxic waste within a few years. I believe GEET systems are capable of cleanly burning most of that waste, so let's please be very clear what you're accomplishing.

Thanks,
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 29, 2009, 08:57:30 AM
Thanks, I missed that link. However, the link won't work for me.

I'm aware of GEET technology, very logical and nifty, but the way it's being applied here leaves me guessing (hoping).

10% gasoline and 90% water/vinager you say?

So what have you actually been consuming for that particular ride?

Do I understand correctly that you ALSO have a hydroxy on demand system on board, which you have not used for driving the truck as of yet?

If you let the public guessing, spreading this technology will take longer. I've got 2 left hands, but can make my contribution getting simple people to understand, and making clean power something they purchase rather than hire a personal engineer for.

If only engineers and tinkerers (with spare time) start running clean cars, we'll still be up our neck in toxic waste within a few years. I believe GEET systems are capable of cleanly burning most of that waste, so let's please be very clear what you're accomplishing.

Thanks,

Cloxxki very are perfectly clear in what we are doing. No one is guessing i suggest you read these PDF's. I have already explained the system if you do not understand then please read to understand there is nothing more i can explain to you.

here are the links
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Leo%20Umila%20supplemental%20GEET.pdf
Hydroxy goto the Panacea university site
hydroxy course

These were already mentioned in the video.

We have no figures on bubbler consumption yet every thing we know is posted so far.
Leo has in his PDF please read it.
We used the hydroxy on and off mostly off


Ash
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: Cloxxki on June 29, 2009, 09:41:56 AM
Thanks Ash, this time I got it to open.

Also thanks for posting as you go. I'm sure and hope you'll find you are not left with just water in you tank now :-)
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: Cloxxki on June 29, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Ash,

I'll try not to waste your time further with "silly" questions, the schematic PDF sure is a work of art.
Your university obviously does invaluable, brave work.

Just stating here that if you want to get the word out, it will need to be easier than my comprehension level. Yes, I know this is a technical discussion forum.
Small adjustments can make this stuff clear to a couch patato. I hope one day my contribution to this planet will be sitting between the green inventors/builders and the public, feeding them both with ideas. It's what I do.

I'd want the car part industry on board with this. Standardized fuel line/exhaust and/or bubbler systems for popular car models. It would mean great business for the car dealerships, installing (so or not so) brand-authorized GEETs and Bubblers fior the customers to evade carbon taxes, and do their part for a cleaner future.
Target stupid gasoline burning oversized trucks/SUV, and already economic smaller cars (Ford Focus my fav). Both their owners should be easy to get interested, for different motives.

The transport industry especially is hurting from the credit crisis, environmental taxes AND diesel prices. If they can charge current freight rates while running half the fuel, they will make very significant profits, quickly. Tanking gas, especially in Europe, is their prime cost factor. They administer gas by the gram and by by the micro cent per litre.
Also, it will be less bad to get stuck behind a GEET converted freight truck in a traffic jam.

I'm a bit of an entrepreneur, and want to do my part, but not without making things right for inventors. And I don't want to offend enthusiasts who got to the scene before I did.
I kicked a revolution's butt before, and am looking for a next, bigger target.
Anyone interested to talk/brainstorm with me, feel free to contact me. I speak English, German, Dutch and a bit of French.

Best to all, especially our kids' future,

Thanks,
J
Title: Re: 100% MPG - Dual GEET + Hydroxy (Panacea production)
Post by: ashtweth_nihilisti on June 29, 2009, 02:23:32 PM
j

Get the french city council document form here and present to government to save the tax payer on fuel
http://panacea-bocaf.org/geet.htm

Also start local enthus groups and retrofitting garages
Also if you do this don't forget to include Paul pantone.

Lets keep it technical now

Ash