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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12063634 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22770 on: May 28, 2019, 04:08:22 PM »
In the Elephter Andronikashvili book "I start with Elbrus" is a little written about the high voltage pulse coils, which were used in the detectors of cosmic particles, are used in the Spark chamber:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_chamber

https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/presentations/cosmic-ray-spark-chamber


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZWLt_GrgVE

...but there are no prerequisites for generating even a tiny amount of energy from this...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22772 on: May 28, 2019, 05:56:44 PM »
"Ball Lighting" from discharge big capacitor on water...but no prerequisites for generating even a small amount of free energy from this...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22772 on: May 28, 2019, 05:56:44 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22773 on: May 28, 2019, 06:15:42 PM »
Sergh ,
( remark that the " ball lightning article is from 2008 )
Dr. Silva Paiva et al. ( there are co-inventors named in the several applications) are professionals,working based by theories and hypothesis ! ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=2982034A4&KC=A4&FT=D&ND=&date=20170426&DB=&locale=#
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                                                           THESE OBJECTIVES WERE ACHIEVED..... "

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« Reply #22774 on: May 28, 2019, 07:39:52 PM »
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Thus the "open" field lines propagate to high altitudes including the region of the formation of muons, at an altitude of 10 kilometers, forming a magnetic funnel whose top "opening" can have a radius of dozens of kilometers. It is these lines that will collimate atmospheric muons into the coil of the generator of the present invention, whose diameter is for example only a few centimeters.
1. Muons  are deflected by the magnetic field, but they are non magnetic. Of course it can be controlled by a magnetic field as the electron beams in the picture tube.
2. The magnetic field decreases in proportion to the square of the distance. Therefore, in order for a magnetic field not to weaken at a distance of 10 kilometers, it must be unattainably catastrophically powerful. It seems that the patent is the author's fantasy.


A huge 1000 tons electromagnet for the deflection of cosmic particles in the Caucasus Mountains (Georgia).  The magnet deflected particles at a small distance.
From the book Andronikashvili "Start from Elbrus":

http://bookfi.net/book/452461

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« Reply #22775 on: May 28, 2019, 08:11:38 PM »
1.yes, I agree.

2. I do not have to agree strictly to his hypothesis !
    About magnetic field strengh we have the experience from electromagnetic emisson and receiver : > 90%    Makes also part from orbital solar-farming and energy to earth transmission.

This inventor gave some other aspects about conversion technique :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881020&CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1#

Dr. Paiva wrote about high altitude atmospheric muon generator use, but do you a. not think b. think that this given technical Example 1,2 results are not in- lab experiment results ?
( 1000 tons : Electro- magnets today gives with 1/10 and less volume the same Tesla-range  !)

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« Reply #22776 on: May 29, 2019, 12:38:10 AM »
1.yes, I agree.

2. I do not have to agree strictly to his hypothesis !
    About magnetic field strengh we have the experience from electromagnetic emisson and receiver : > 90%    Makes also part from orbital solar-farming and energy to earth transmission.

This inventor gave some other aspects about conversion technique :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19881020&CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1#

Dr. Paiva wrote about high altitude atmospheric muon generator use, but do you a. not think b. think that this given technical Example 1,2 results are not in- lab experiment results ?
( 1000 tons : Electro- magnets today gives with 1/10 and less volume the same Tesla-range  !)


Yea, this was very understanding for most of us and simple like cake.
so let's make it!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22777 on: May 29, 2019, 08:08:55 AM »
    About magnetic field strengh we have the experience from electromagnetic emisson and receiver : > 90%    Makes also part from orbital solar-farming and energy to earth transmission.
Electromagnetic emisson is not equal to the magnetic field from permanent magnet or electromagnet.
It is probably possible to control the movement of charged particles by electromagnetic emisson. As in the old "Star Wars", "Tractor beam". But about this Mr. Paiva does not write.

https://www.google.com/search?q=high+frequency+ion+transportation+atmosphere

How can you imagine such a receiver charged particles from the sky, a power plant ?:

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg533211/#msg533211

About electromagnet size..
 Not only the field strength is important, but also the volume. You can make a very small electromagnet, which will create a field in a pulse of 50 - 100 Tesla. But the field from it is strong at a short distance and inhomogeneous. Earth's magnetic field is weak, but has a size of up to 70,000 km.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22778 on: May 29, 2019, 09:13:04 AM »
WhatIsIt,
slowly !

Dr.Paiva: Voltage Amplifier by ?
Zielinski: Ampere Amplifier by Ampere- turns ratio

We do not need 760 KW nor 990 KW converter, 1/1000 up to 1/100 is for the private household more than enough.
   1/1000 Dr. Paiva example II  760 W x 24 h x 365 d.= 6.657,6 KWh

Compared with 30 sqm solar-cells a 15% efficiency and 1400 KWh photon emission per annum/sqm : 6300 KWh
For such a periodic solar energy converting Installation you have to pay actually +/- 6000 US$, not included
battery system.
I expect that for 1/1000 to 1/100 Paiva/Zielinski/Kapanadze converter at the beginning  the 250 US$/ KW can become easily reached ( calculating with the in the descriptions used materials and  industrial market prices )


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22779 on: May 29, 2019, 09:25:29 AM »
Sergh,

I can imagine it like a "virtual kone" and the receiver like the telescopic installation in Costa Rica !
Following the application description.

I can agree to most of your arguments,but some which can be seen as negative related to the concept are the hidden solutions.
It is a conflict : to tell scientific that there is a source which can be explored, by a huge installation and by the other side to give a demonstration with a small device and useable output : related to average consumer.

                               Beyond Ferro- magnetism
By classical chemistry non magnetic elements becoming magnetic : carbon/grafit/graphene and http://www.rexresearch.com/mrmagnet/mrmagnet.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22780 on: May 29, 2019, 10:51:43 AM »
1. I have a Geiger counter. He probably fixes a muon getting into it once a minute on 1 square  centimeter of Earth.
2. I am familiar with the registration circuit in the Geiger counter and I understand that the energy of this hit is negligible.
3. I know that if you multiply 1 square centimeter by the number of square centimeters in 10 square kilometers, then there will probably be a certain amount of energy from the muons.
4. Everyone knows that the magnetic field from the magnet decreases in proportion to the square of the distance. Therefore, the Kapanadze coil has no chance of affecting an area of ​​10 square kilometers or a distance of 10 kilometers with its magnetic field.
5. The technology similar to HAARP probably allows moving charged particles. But the scale and implementation of this technology are very different from the Kapanadze coil.

What do you propose to do in this situation?
The "keys" to the "locks" are not suitable. This is problem.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22781 on: May 29, 2019, 11:35:41 AM »
Sergh,
I think you like it to make simple thinking complicated :

Question : dimension- difference
St. Bernhard - Massiv Neutrino detector/
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20181113&CC=DE&NR=202018004708U1&KC=U1#

1 Gr.( in mols)  element molecular energy / nuclear energy;  decay duration/ lifetime, velocity


1 cube-cm active-carbon : pore surface in sqm

Water 1 liter to water-gas to droplets : surface in sqm ?  sonolumniscence, charge cluster, St. Elmo,  .....

Thinking in Fermi- Dimension : Fermi-RAUM-ZEIT

A SIMPLE HEATER...  :
electricity to heat
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=102014018647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en                     

                                        [0003] read, think, design it 3/4 d

and heat to electricity
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=14&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910228&CC=DD&NR=287597A5&KC=A5# Such low temperature decrease gives 80 W( a 400V)  x ?  sqm heat converter surface  ?
( is the circuit in this converter non an argument to nominate Dr. Helmut Reichelt for the Nobel- Award in Physics? An electro-dynamic Carnot circuit, THz modulation )
 which quantum mechanical process  ? included inrush voltage/amperage :   

            hygrometric/ barometric/ thermometric change

In use carbon-nano-tubes or graphit : as array  with "Funkenstrecke"( TELEFUNKEN)/Funken-Aether                                         
                                                         
                                                          Funken= spark
" inrush voltage/current limiter" are known,  not in geral use : inrush power converter


wet ambient charge converter :            http://www.rexresearch.com/marks/marks.htm

the article " Electricity from Water & Air " gives probably # 22777 question the answer. !
With appropriate tuning. !

Clouds stimulated by windgenerators to clouds transformed to electricity by "air charge converter"
https://ruhrkultour.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Wirbelschleppen.jpg
ambiental/ health concern : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
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« Reply #22782 on: May 29, 2019, 12:56:13 PM »
WhatIsIt,
slowly !

Dr.Paiva: Voltage Amplifier by ?
Zielinski: Ampere Amplifier by Ampere- turns ratio

We do not need 760 KW nor 990 KW converter, 1/1000 up to 1/100 is for the private household more than enough.
   1/1000 Dr. Paiva example II  760 W x 24 h x 365 d.= 6.657,6 KWh

Compared with 30 sqm solar-cells a 15% efficiency and 1400 KWh photon emission per annum/sqm : 6300 KWh
For such a periodic solar energy converting Installation you have to pay actually +/- 6000 US$, not included
battery system.
I expect that for 1/1000 to 1/100 Paiva/Zielinski/Kapanadze converter at the beginning  the 250 US$/ KW can become easily reached ( calculating with the in the descriptions used materials and  industrial market prices )

I am lost in your talk!
Do you have any plan, suggestion, how to start, make any of that devices?
Because I read their patents and to be honest, did not understand what to do?
Do you know what they are talking about? And how to make them?
If you do, I am in!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22783 on: May 29, 2019, 02:11:46 PM »
WhatIsIt,
where ( later : what) concretly transforms  in the


Paiva device : 110V to 40000 V
and
Zielinski device : 1 A to 5000 A

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22784 on: May 29, 2019, 02:15:33 PM »
St. Bernhard - Massiv Neutrino detector/
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20181113&CC=DE&NR=202018004708U1&KC=U1#
This neutrino detector is capable of detecting anything, but not a neutrino.

Neutrinos can pass through the planet without interaction. Neutrinos are detected by highly sensitive photomultipliers of light flashes, in clear water. In large volumes of water, some neutrinos still collide with atoms, but this rarely happens.
http://www.jinr.ru/posts/video-the-baikal-gvd-project/

 

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