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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12577848 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22605 on: March 30, 2016, 02:25:35 AM »
Those are two very different cases because the coil has an inductance, that can resonate with the capacitance but an ideal transformer does not.
A crappy transformer (k<<1) presents a large leakage inductance that can resonate with the capacitance, though.

In other words, the capacitor can only resonate with an imperfection of the transformer.

Like a three-phase transformer, where the primary and the secondary coils in use are located on two different legs? Would that imperfect and crappy enough?

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« Reply #22606 on: March 30, 2016, 02:31:20 AM »
On an esoteric level that even sounds correct but it lacks a rigorous analysis.
I know a lot about it but I do not know precisely how to manipulate it.  Do you?

Do I know how time is manipulated? Yes I do but metaphysical discussion of it is not for you. Stick with your Physics.

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« Reply #22607 on: March 30, 2016, 02:50:25 AM »
Like a three-phase transformer, where the primary and the secondary coils in use are located on two different legs? Would that imperfect and crappy enough?
Yes, anytime a transformer winding does not span the entire core or anytime air gaps are present in the core - a leakage inductance appears, which becomes capable of resonating with external capacitances.

If you like the Stepanov device, you should investigate ferroresonance in 3-ph transformers (delta connected), because it is not the same as the lumped LC resonance and is considered to be a very wrong thing to do to a power transformer ...and remains somewhat of a mystery.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2016, 11:06:42 AM by verpies »

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« Reply #22608 on: March 30, 2016, 03:04:29 AM »
On an esoteric level that even sounds correct but it lacks a rigorous analysis.

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My consciousness provided the rigorous analysis even before I repeated it, years ago.
You will have to do the same before you repeat it.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22609 on: March 30, 2016, 04:36:54 AM »

Format of expression:
Each argument itself  in text below is also just an expression.  look at it as a mark used to indicate stress ,
Pointing at  particular problem without intentional  labeling  you Meta  or a particular group  of  individuals ,as THE PROBLEM in a system  or in a group.
It is just indication of what I think is wrong.
that is all... 
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Meta.
I'm tired.
Frickin' nonsense, flooding this forum over and over again.


Please understand.
Nobody is interested with your convoluted, estranged,  alienated, and rejected  "science".
I personally have nothing against you.
I do not even  deny your "science"


The problem is that you  are not offering any  complex solution  other than  a "pollution."
Physics is largely concerned as an analysis of motion,
For that there is need for set of tools that are  unified, correlated  and served as logical standards.
There is no problem in classical  and quantum field to work around any problem.
Nobody say it is right  set of methods,  or  there are no  improper standards.


You postulating  rapid change,  and you not offering any complex solution.
You know how it sounds ?


Lets  have some  action :
- Lets jerkoff  .............jerkoff in her mouth  she is an  alien.
does she have mouth?
- I do not know
where is she?
-I do not know?
does she exist?
- I hope so
How did you find out about her?
- From Meta.


a........ OK..


Meta again please give me something solid for my mental masturbation  if you will.......


Will you?








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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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« Reply #22610 on: March 30, 2016, 08:04:46 AM »
Like a three-phase transformer, where the primary and the secondary coils in use are located on two different legs? Would that imperfect and crappy enough?

You're on the right trail......heres a hint

The vacuum is balanced, neutralized dynamics (0 dynamics) and perfectly symmetric until you learn about all the ways to asymmetrically unbalance it to produce power.



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« Reply #22611 on: March 30, 2016, 08:28:33 AM »
Westley,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbEsk89yMQ

Thats a interesting set up.

I could post 2 pages of information on gravity quotes from many brilliant people, to make you learn it but these simple paragraphs will do for now.

If a machine is built that is perfectly balanced using the mirror image also, a input of perfectly balanced tones of Phi scale will produce a perfectly balanced output of perfectly balanced gravity which is the perfect symmetry of perfect spatial energy. What you input into the machine, is what you get out of the machine. You are the superconscious creator.

The Dipole Anti-gravity jets of a rotating galaxy, thru its axis (Jeong) seem to be the very same scalar jets one would find as being the center axis of a counterwound toroid or as the cylinder axis thru the spiraling counterwound windings upon a cylinder.
"To the Rationally Minded the Mental Processes of the Intuitive Appear to be Working Backwards"
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22612 on: March 30, 2016, 12:15:23 PM »
If you like the Stepanov device, you should investigate ferroresonance in 3-ph transformers (delta connected), because it is not the same as the lumped LC resonance and is considered to be a very wrong thing to do to a power transformer ...and remains somewhat of a mystery.

Funny coincidence! Congratulations! :)

Ferroresonance Explained: »The rise in primary also raises the secondary voltage, blowing up meters sometimes like bombs.«

Guntis: »BUT... this magnetic field if you make it stronger it can kill you in seconds or if you make it stronger, it can cause a effect like atomic bomb«

For this to work we need a non-linear inductance. How to get it?

Cahiers Techniques: »... oscillating phenomena occurring in an electric circuit which must contain at least: a non-linear inductance (ferromagnetic and saturable) ...«

Perhaps we get it by supplying the 24V output coil of a three-phase transformer with 220V/100Hz via a frequency doubler circuit. This will drive the core into saturation, hence the inductance acts non-linear.

Maybe writing here too much about bombs will attract attention of some intelligence agencies. 8)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22613 on: March 30, 2016, 01:18:06 PM »
 Wesley this one is for you …
 
Another great one from a special RUSSIAN ex-convict (political prisoner) now a scientist !!! WOW !!!



… Long LIVE THE (NEW) RUSSIAN FEDERATION.. !! The Soviet system was VERY bad for prisoners..

 
And it’s open source for all humans such as China and India … 
 
And nobody  knows him in the West.. Americans even with the walkie talkie computers are so ignorant of the world it’s just shocking… Go forth young people and keep up with that face book”  it will not make you smart…
 
Here is a story about a great man that nobody knows … his name is Victor Petrik and he did discover  GRAPHINE and the way to make tons of it ..btw he should have gotten the Noble Prize as he was "THE GUY" who had it first...

 
Look up what it can do ..
 

He has made battery that never runs out of power !!

 
This is the last battery needed .. EVER…
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7EKiGnTP0
 
A film about the visit by the delegation of Russian Academy of Sciences Laboratory Petrik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbISEBzZUns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX16hxAda0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz1TQayRoNc
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xWddR3nrYk
De-Toxing  CocaCola and wine  now this is serious..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg5wA1q_YT0
 
 
Why it is the GREATEST DISCOVERY !!!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVTdf5WZTfQ
 
Acca…
 
p.s.
 
 Kapanadze has been passed !!! so long !!!…by  [/font]Victor…

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22614 on: March 30, 2016, 01:29:15 PM »
Oh Meta you have been OUTCAST  !!! You are to find YOUR OWN THREAD !!

This a "KAPANADZE " discussion thread group, bench time build discuss type of group !!

NOT what you have been doing here...

Acca...

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« Reply #22615 on: March 30, 2016, 04:11:28 PM »
Oh Meta you have been OUTCAST  !!! You are to find YOUR OWN THREAD !!

This a "KAPANADZE " discussion thread group, bench time build discuss type of group !!

NOT what you have been doing here...

Acca...

Your loss. Good day Sir

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22616 on: March 30, 2016, 08:49:02 PM »
Wesley this one is for you …
 
Another great one from a special RUSSIAN ex-convict (political prisoner) now a scientist !!! WOW !!!



… Long LIVE THE (NEW) RUSSIAN FEDERATION.. !! The Soviet system was VERY bad for prisoners..

 
And it’s open source for all humans such as China and India … 
 
And nobody  knows him in the West.. Americans even with the walkie talkie computers are so ignorant of the world it’s just shocking… Go forth young people and keep up with that face book”  it will not make you smart…
 
Here is a story about a great man that nobody knows … his name is Victor Petrik and he did discover  GRAPHINE and the way to make tons of it ..btw he should have gotten the Noble Prize as he was "THE GUY" who had it first...

 
Look up what it can do ..
 

He has made battery that never runs out of power !!

 
This is the last battery needed .. EVER…
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7EKiGnTP0
 
A film about the visit by the delegation of Russian Academy of Sciences Laboratory Petrik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbISEBzZUns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX16hxAda0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz1TQayRoNc
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xWddR3nrYk
De-Toxing  CocaCola and wine  now this is serious..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg5wA1q_YT0
 
 
Why it is the GREATEST DISCOVERY !!!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVTdf5WZTfQ
 
Acca…
 
p.s.
 
 Kapanadze has been passed !!! so long !!!…by Victor…

Akka I do thank you very much  for set of videos you brought to my attention.
I have heard about Mr. Petrik.
However I was not deeply impressed with  his discovery .
There is lack of credits conforming his findings.
Despite all of that, as much as he is  experimentally  sound, he must perform in country  where corruption and bribes are present  in every area of life starting from toilet paper to industries and politics.



Reason  for him befriending Putin so simple.  Fallow the money.
Putin  is accused of enormous wealth based on money paid to him by various  Russian oligarch and  group of interests.
By that we may understand possibility of Putin accepting money for something that should not show up on global market.
e;g. We may speculate that   Petrik  is not finished as the - recourse it is convenient to keep him alive .He can be "activated" any time and lifted high depends  from the fact of  how much new demands will be formulated  by Putin to the western world of business.


I also assume that Petrik  gets his small share from such activity if any.

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Sidestep controversy:
All of that, should be understood in the form - that  progress  is independent from  moral, ethical,  political  and national  condensations,
sooner o later it is going to alter our reality( not always in good way)


That  country has so many very much controversial people   one of them is Putin.
There are other descriptors  used,  that are very much offensive to Mr Putin   :
Hujlo,- analogy to  private part of male.
Putler.- analogy to Adolf Hitler.
After 2 years of Ukraine War and 8 thousands of children women and man have died.


Not counting  yet life of  thousands  who lost their own life fighting for Putin dreams of  Russian expansion.
I'm lucky person,-  being a citizen,of United States of America is a status  and honor  to me .
I'm  far from terror , oppression,   and incredibly well build   system of falsification - Russian propaganda.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Petrik
Athough this is very much critical opinion  ,please keep in mind that PepsiCola and many others world  industries  are not welcoming  his inventions. Including Russia. His true  achievement  by that  is yet to be found .

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704187204575101510173019130
http://humanism.su/en/articles.phtml?num=000077
Two of his patents have been issued in USA.
So total denial to  his   activity in new science  area is impossible.
Some facts  reported about insufficient results of some applications of his discoveries might be true.
However there is no universal set of tools that can do  every possible job well.

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Education:
I need also stress that Russian Nation is extremely well educated and has  incredible potential   yet not fully  utilized.
That is due to one  good thing that was  created in soviet oppression system.
Free  education.
In the foundation of the system in mind was to create  human forces that could be ready to handle  any possible task with little to none effort and than killed or eliminated  if needed  with quite easiness  to find replacement.

I must  admit that USA is very much far behind the Russian nation in broad education.
I must also  admit that major difference between USA and Russia is:
Russia:
1 - very broad education  placing individual on the top of perceptual abilities
2.- educated nation is difficult to  keep tight - that problem  was solved by creation of  total lies in any possible area to such extend that anyone  can get lost  in what is true  and what is not.
3 - one Russian can process many tasks from many different areas of science  perfectly well. (Even if such areas are far away from each other.)
4.-  one Russian  has much greater chances to become inventor or  creative, than most of the westerners ( my personal opinion)
5.- life in Russia pushed by lack of comfort almost every child to repair  appliances, automobiles, do construction work ( just to save on  cost of labor)
that gave them  push to  succeed in the world of unknown.


USA:
1. extremely narrow education creating robots that have little to none chances of doing job wrong.
2. team  work makes american  work forces  performing excellent,  fast, reliable in   almost any task given. 
3. Structure of English language is able to  make short commands to fallow in plain language without need  or requirement  for worker to know more.
4.system is interested with  end product and not worker or workers satisfaction, by that excellent quality  of products made in USA gain well respected reputation. 
5. system in USA is free of  corruption  on the level of middle class. Some of  government tactics are to allow  to an individual to have some freedom of none-registered income.
6. wealth of choices( not wealth of person)  makes most of everyday toys to be  extremely  inexpensive to the average Joe.
7. most of Americans  decides rather pay for services than  DIY. By that they become more   and more limited in their   multi-skills.But that makes plenty of them profit from  that what they know and how they  use it.


8- Negative for business is  saturation of everything in  any possible field of life, technology  and science.
That pushes american business to go to China looking for cheap labor.
Technological  progress of China during  last 20 years is grater than in past 2000 years of China history.
Fashion is changing  formats of clothing to put the pressure on man to feel need to  spend on new suits.
Due to mass production and cheap Chinese labor, metal and other production machinery are being sold for price of scrap  just to free place for rental.
USA is slowly becoming nation of maintenance guys.


Obsolescence is pushed to the limits - anything you touch is  more expensive to repair than buy new.
Spare parts are almost  impossible to obtain.     
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Wesley:
 I'm "garbage collector"
 The value of my  lab (in new purchase prices ), is  better to do not publicly mention ......just to do not create a chance  of heart attack to some of you.
But again  if I want to sale it ........ there is no buyer.... nobody is interested in exotic junk even if it is  like  new.


The good thing USA  government is doing to us is :
- we are allowed to have incredibly advanced  technologies, devices, for  in many cases less then the scarp value .However we are not allowed to sale them at all or   not allowed to  sale them abroad.( depends from  the device).


- Because USA is country of professionals( limited beautiful robots)  ,slide variation  makes some  advanced technologies not in field of interest of average Joe.
"easiness of life"- to get what you want  makes most of the people not interested with collecting exotic science devices.( sometimes not interested with anything  at all)


That makes me directly profiting from lack of possible competition  in  my hunt for science  junk( sometime  junk that was never used , never even unpack from their crates- packs.- brand new old junk )
That what is considered old can be only few months old or few years old.


Explanation: if one company was acquired by  another company  everyone is happy:
1.- big guy eliminated his direct competition and can now use some of  competition technology if needed.
2.- small company  gets payed well under markets  rules  get sold or we  make you collapse by e.g lowering our prices)
3. - I.m happy. Nobody wants to buy perfectly new and good technology as there is no longer service for it and I'm skilled in so many different fields.
5. - Price for  that what others do not want is  in many cases almost "no price"..just take it out and be happy.We need  empty space  for other activity.





 
Thank you  Acca
My respect to you



Wesley
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22617 on: March 31, 2016, 05:58:10 AM »
Wesley thanks for such a though provoking letter ... !!!



Now with due respect to you, Petrik did get recognition from the USA for removing the gasoline additive MTBE from ground water..



..........and he has found a way to make the nono-size Graphene carbon by the multiple "TON'S...

link posted to his filter Mfg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4kxK9A8Nc[/font]

as to the home builder there exists a market as $ 20.00 will get you garbage size amount to this nano stuff..

now the amount that is needed is a transparent amount to make power, say 4'x6' x 4 sheets will make you 10Kw's with NO Sun !!

The only the solar mgf. and wind guys will try to stop this..

THIS IS A "REAL MAJOR" discovery that will change humans.. as to Russia "who the hell cares"  maybe it's citizens ??

and here is a chap in the UK that fell in to this NONO stuff by accident and will have a make a company..

Cheers ... Acca

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22618 on: March 31, 2016, 06:45:41 AM »
  And just what is the output provided by the nano carbon battery?  I didn't view all the links. As this is all off topic, also.
  In the last video link is mentioned 2.5v, and needs charging, also.
 Free energy?   Where is that being shown. And how is this different from a galvanic battery or cell, made partly out of carbon, which will break down and deteriorate fairly quickly. The higher the output the faster it will break down by the galvanic process.
The picture with Bush does not inspire confidence.

   Anyway, what does that have in common with Kapanadze and this thread? 
   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22619 on: March 31, 2016, 04:23:30 PM »
Wesley thanks for such a though provoking letter ... !!!



Now with due respect to you, Petrik did get recognition from the USA for removing the gasoline additive MTBE from ground water..



..........and he has found a way to make the nono-size Graphene carbon by the multiple "TON'S...

link posted to his filter Mfg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4kxK9A8Nc

as to the home builder there exists a market as $ 20.00 will get you garbage size amount to this nano stuff..

now the amount that is needed is a transparent amount to make power, say 4'x6' x 4 sheets will make you 10Kw's with NO Sun !!

The only the solar mgf. and wind guys will try to stop this..

THIS IS A "REAL MAJOR" discovery that will change humans.. as to Russia "who the hell cares"  maybe it's citizens ??

and here is a chap in the UK that fell in to this NONO stuff by accident and will have a make a company..

Cheers ... Acca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4kxK9A8Nc[/font]


 Viktor Ivanovich Petrik. has got  2.6 millions dollars  from Putin  to launch  his invention .in 2010.In Russia you can make as much progress with that money as in USA with:
5000 : 200=25( factor derived from average salary that is approximation to spending for similar everyday needs.It pictures price of goods vs cost of labor)
2600000 x 25=65 000000 dollars
 If we take  inequality  in material cost between USA and Russia it would be smart to cut that in half to be correct in  calculation.
65 000 000 : 2= 32 500 000 of American equivalent of investment.

where is he now?
what did he achieved in the business world?
where is his recognition?


WEST PLAYS BY WEST RULES....
to compare how much money that is 2.6M?:
That is  not enough  to buy old  house in  bad condition in  Greenpoint Brooklyn  area of New York,
and less than  price of just small empty lot in Bedford  Brooklyn just few minutes from my house.


There is plenty of money here I could find for Petric or anyone to make good fast start.
One telephone call, and I could have guy with 6 million dollars "ready to invest". ( it is true but do not be fooled by that statement) heeeee
Typical street in New York of middle class neighborhood ...every house is more than 1 million dollars.
So  typical  owner of the house there is a "millionaire."  ( it is true but do not be fooled by that statement) heeeee
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You can take money against your house or business and "tomorrow"  have few millions ready for Petric.
"Money is easy" ......

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The statement from the above is 100% true. and  when you picture it  in your head - that picture is very much misleading.




This what is said below is important to both   Western world and Russians..
It makes very much clear how to deal with Russian when you are tempted by Russian inventor or Russian product.
If you are average Western Man and you want to invest your  life saving to make   more. ...be  careful...


For Russian it is important to know how West works....
surprising is that (most of them) , THEY  DO NOT KNOW HOW WEST WORKS...
they will not even agree,  to that what I write here.
That what they know is how to grab and get  away...Please Do not get  confused.
In average:
Russians are very valuable , honest, moral,  cooperative, friendly, smart easy interacting, dedicated, inventive,
..... everything  has the price of temptation...
Typical Russian statement :
Quote
For this little money I would not risk to go there or do that....
So you should understand that for  right amount of money "they" will do that!!!!!!!!!!!


So to have healthy  relation with Russians you need to understand
WHAT IS RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY
and how that relates to western world  risk of losing big time.
You,  the regular guys from WEST ..
..you can make yourself  very  wealthy or you can lose  everything including your life..
I'm just giving you  a guide:




Typical  for both Russian and American:


Typical Russian makes per month less, than earnings in some third world African countries (e.g Nigeria=$200/mo) . = to two hours( to four)  of work  of Sanitation worker in New York.
The cost of life is  surprisingly not much different when earning is divided by typical  food price   in both USA and Russia.
And even more... Russian can have more free time and more social life than American guys.


The drastic  problem for Russian is  to buy anything - from everything ......that is outside  of Russia in Free Western World.
Typical Russian needs to work around 1 year, just to be able to put money on the side for  1 single computer ( not fancy one)
to compare -
typical  low.. low salary for Trader Joe/ Starbucks young boy is $15/h 
and typically they get $20tip) in Strbucks (up to $100tip) per day.
that makes them able to buy such computer every two days = over 150 computers per year , while they still in their parents houses.
However typical Russian makes often more than 2x of his salary "on the side"( bribes,corruption, theft... and so on)
And that still does not make him better.

Theft in Russia is   not welcomed  and punished,
but bribes compensation is  in 90%  of cases, sufficient enough when given,  to police officer or any other guy to get away from the trouble. 
think of it as:
officially Russian makes             = x money
non officially Russian makes      =x+ 3x  "not reported" money or more............ much more.   ( not always that much  and not always that little)
bribes are 90% present                = ( unknown) -sometime it is favor for favor , some time you pay many times more than the cost x.. just to have what you want to have

In their system,(( their brains)  that is nothing wrong with that.. it is just  the way to manage their life, and there is not to much of other alternative present.
They have to  support their families  the best way the  can.
Theft should be understand differently. They do not try to take advantage of their friends ( mostly) .
However what is in the job side is mostly own by government, ( by  communism  agenda that means own by everyone.)
They try to "compensate"  low wages  with  side jobs often using  "available materials" on hand . They  often, put  more attention  to that side job than to  their everyday activity in work place. (Sometimes all of their activity  is do side job and pay to supervisors to cover him  up.)
They have to give "something " to keep supervisor quiet , and "something" to keep "security"  quiet,  and  if caught on it they have to pay a lot to "quiet it down"...
If they have not enough of money than.. they are from now in official system of punishment.     

As most of the structure is corrupted the managers and officers  including principal of that  government  business,  means everyone is doing money on the side.
The net production from such  business is often in deficit while  " everyone is happy" making  " good life, nice houses, cars,and so on)
suffice it to say  : if I say that all Russia is made like  that?
I would not be far from  the truth.   
In Russian reality  bribe is often replaced with hooks. Hook is  something that you know  about somebody who wants to keep it quiet.
In the country  where  almost everyone is doing  "something" it is  very much  handy to know more about others
If there is a need than hook can be used . That makes things moving much faster than bribes and  often at no expense
That structure makes unfortunate individual  to be entangled in the web of the spider..... of money and and fear.
with little chance to get out.



Nobody is going to invest in dreams.
American are not stupid.
Yes money is there, but  if you do not have solid product checked by american professionals you going nowhere.
Americans  do  not care if they have made mistake by not investing in good Russian opportunity.
If it works  than the same guys will come to you and  will pay you 100 times more for the same, they could of have for 100 times less. a year ago.
If there is money to be made there  is  always money to be invested.

So  Acca no problem for me to make  Mr. Petric wealthy , man * in no time.
without me......in it !!!!
I'm not for sale nor I have pleasure to  be a part of Russian American business relation.
I  might be willing  to help for free, to any one  who has valuable product and
I do not intend to be a part of that business..
I do not care... nor it is my goal.

*( "no time"-  is  idiom check vocabulary)
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Russians are not the people  whom you can gain trust:
You keep your money tight,
never give them all
and never  give control over that money to Russians.
With the time you will have all of benefits  of great Russian potential..
Do not be fooled by that.... never let the leash  go out of your hands..
Russians are good people but temptation is even  "better"...

so how it works in USA:
example of legitimate business

It happened to me  many times-
example:
I go to the guy who never see me , or never hear about me before,
 and 5 minutes later I have $25000 in my  hand. No contract, no paper... needed )
I was not even close to the guy who  recommend me,
And that was not any special  recommendation...
 .....It was just  -
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" yes Wesley  is OK"
That is all.


But Wesley  has no comfort of  making mistake even one time... 
he must  remain crystal clear for rest of your life, or he done for good... rejected , finished kaput...
You can not do it with Russians..
Some of them uses this american trust to recommended person   to take advantage.


If they are successful than their comments  between them-self is often:   
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-how Americans are stupid and naive and how easy is to fool them.
Well  Russians often attack levels - that no typical guy would  be interested  with..
such as SS benefits, housing benefits, grands opportunities,
They are anywhere  where check of performance is delayed till later in time...
Yes, they often burn the bridges behind (- idiom)  and yet  plenty of them comes back to Russia with some insignificant money  but quite good  one for Russia..
At the end
I know how to deal with them and I have not much problem to understand their problems, expectations, dreams of better life.
Naturalized Russians ( Citizens of USA)  are just like  everyone else. They know the price for not fallowing the rules.
and yet they often shine with their Russian Potential, utilized properly  without fear in american  land.
 




Wesley

 
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