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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13669295 times)

Offline wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22575 on: March 28, 2016, 07:39:46 PM »
I can't parse that theory. What is it that collects here the energy and from where, that is needed to get OU?

@Z

It's not to produce instant OU. It is to have a new way to pulse two primaries with a central secondary to start seeing new effects but instead of working it with pulsed DC you stick with the AC line to simulate the inverter. He had the inverter in all the builds even the plexi units had to have an inverter

Like this? This sounds very like one way of looking at the  Clemente Figuera system.
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Yes this will do it indeed but not with such nice up waves or down wave as in your sim. First photo (below) shows waveform at primary hot side of each transformer and you can see the wave forms do not cut off right at the zero point like in your sim. So why? Second image shows secondary waveforms at hot sides as well and this is curious to show both secondaries are outputting full waveforms. Doing this with standard transformers as I am doing here is not the best way since both transformers are making some objectionable noises (that's why I kept my variac to lower volts) like they are about to go on strike. hahaha. Because the the iron laminations probably cannot follow the impress of the AC half waves. But the main idea is to use this with air core coils since they would be less inclined to find such a scheme objectionable as with the iron core. I think there is a very simple method of using this to output some great power and the AC line will simplify testing greatly.

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To further the Tesla Coil (TC) method, wondering what is so special with the TC, the classic set-up by Tesla himself used a wide horizontal primary at the base of a towering vertical secondary. The primary cannot create inter turn cancellation although it can still suffer from Half Coil Syndrome if a second coil is not in series with the primary. But given that pulsing was with capacitor discharge this may make up for the HCS effect. But the secondary, that's kinda special because each turn of the secondary can see the primary coil from all the way around as the winding goes higher and higher, each turn can still see the primary coil from their individual vantage points hence each turn gets not only the conveyance of the energy produced from the power levels but they each get direct influence from the primary as well by the line-of-sight. This could be easily be verified by floating a metal disk over the primary coil to hide it from being in direct line of sight to the secondary coil to see if the output will be influenced. If it does, then this confirms line of sight effect and importance for the TC.

If the TC is used in the TK coil or other variations, now we have a primary that is wound to float over a good percentage of the secondary coil thus those secondary turns now are influenced by more then one turn of the primary each. The classic TC has tightly wound secondary wire that each turn is right next to the next turn and even in Tesla's TC, this would still create a good level of inter-turn cancellation but since it is going one way up, there is no possibility of Coil Bypass that occurs when using multi-layered secondaries in a classic set-up. So the TK version uses wires with good plastic coating providing a double space between each secondary turn eliminating or reducing inter-turn cancellation which is again, one more plus.

Almost forgot one more thing. The Load. In the TK devices the load becomes part of the circuit and not a side accumulation like we generally do with our systems where the output is sent to a dioded capacitor tank before the load is connected. In these cases, the load becomes both the power consumer and also the power dissipation in the primary line so that the primary can never kill the dipole or in these cases the secondary that is there to constantly replenish the primary that is in effect both the drive source for the secondary and the output source for the load. Kinda confusing but let's just say the egg is the chicken and the chicken is the egg.

I will do some tests along those lines. hahaha

wattsup

PS; My constant TK caveat. In discussing the TK devices and other devices of this type, I am not confirming that TK devices are real and still believe they are more probably fake but given my open minded stance, both investigations true or false always have to be considered.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22576 on: March 28, 2016, 08:55:08 PM »
Watts are measures of consumption of the power that a motor requires to run....
No, Watts are units of Power, which is a measure of the rate at which energy is transferred or converted to another form of energy.  Watts are not units of energy.
Energy is never "consumed", neither is power.

But lets talk Coefficiency of Performance (COP=1)
If you want to talk about COP, begin by looking how COP is calculated while paying a special attention to units involved in that calculation.  Post the formula with units and we can talk about it.

BTW: It is spelled: "Coefficient of Performance".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22577 on: March 28, 2016, 09:02:45 PM »
NickZ


I believe last Kapanadze video proved it is Tesla based. It could be also not Tesla based , because there is so many ways to skin a cat ;-) I'm interested however if you spotted the same from the last video. Tesla coil is obvious, where is the HV end of this Tesla coil ?


  Forest:  TK does mention Tesla, and no one else. 
  I can't discuss or try to replicate what is hidden, or secret. Only what can be seen, or that which we can speculated on.  Nor has anyone else been able to find all the answers.
  That TK last device is using some form of Tesla coil, to up the voltage, and then step it down with transformer of some sort, to be of use.  Other than that I have no clue as to how he does what he is showing on the video(s). Or even how his hidden driver circuit works.
  Therefore I work on the Ruslan/Akula projects, which offer some information, schematics, videos, and discussions, but possibly not all that there is to know about it.
  Sorry I can't be of more help. But, I think that you'll understand my point of view.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22577 on: March 28, 2016, 09:02:45 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22578 on: March 28, 2016, 09:04:55 PM »
Its like talkin to rocks...go about your Physics business. Spend another year searching for that "magic" unbalanced, one sided crcuit that leads to overunity.

To talk about Kapanadze is to talk about evidence that is not there and hear second and third hand talk from those who dont know...and keep doing it.....thats the very definition of insanity

I've come to the same conclusion.  You've said it well.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22579 on: March 28, 2016, 09:19:54 PM »
Watts are not units of energy.  A surprising mistake after 40-years of studying.
It is possible to have 1000x more output Watts than input Watts, by slowly charging a battery and discharging it quickly.
Show us 2 real, existing examples of this with links.
This is so elementary, that I will not dignify it with an explanation and pollute this thread with "back to basics" lessons.
Maybe someone, who has more patience, will discuss it with you via PM.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22580 on: March 28, 2016, 09:30:03 PM »
He had the inverter in all the builds even the plexi units had to have an inverter

What if the inverter and the energy generating coil/transformer is one and the same?

No, Watts are units of Power, which is a measure of the rate at which energy is transferred or converted to another form of energy.  Watts are not units of energy.

If on the generator side the time would run 10 times faster than on the consumer side, then 1 watt-hour input would result in 10 watt-hours output, wouldn't it?

Or is it vice versa? ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22581 on: March 28, 2016, 09:57:57 PM »
    Zeit:
   You mentioned, "what if the inverter and the energy producing coil/transformer are one and the same". 
    No, they are not the same. You need to study what is the purpose of both. Not just guess about what you are seeing.
    The first coil is used to raise the voltage, like a normal Tesla coil does, and the inverter is used to convert (by a step down transformer) that HV, to a normal AC output, to run his loads.
    So, no, they don't work the same.  Nor is the inverter, (hidden or otherwise), the same as a Tesla coil. You need both, not just one or the other for the TK system to work. 
    A step down transformer for the job, is not difficult to make. Although I doubt that TK had the proper knowledge to make one. 
Nor any of his other shown devices. So, who is the real inventor then?  That's the question, concerning the last 12 years of his work.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22582 on: March 28, 2016, 10:24:38 PM »
If on the generator side the time would run 10 times faster than on the consumer side, then 1 watt-hour input would result in 10 watt-hours output, wouldn't it?  Or is it vice versa? ::)
The latter, but the units would have to remain as Watts, not Watthours, if this statement were to remain true.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22583 on: March 28, 2016, 10:30:18 PM »
and the inverter is used to convert (by a step down transformer) that HV, to a normal AC output, to run his loads.

The loads can't run through an inverter, Kapanadze has no inverter that can handle 5KW output.

The inverter generates the input frequency. But if just a frequency (of around 50Hz) is needed, then anything could generate that frequency (the coil itself perhaps), there is no need for an inverter rated at 400 watts (the light-blue one).

The latter, but the units would have to remain as Watts, not Watthours, if this statement were to remain true.

That's a clear statement. Should we then put the generator near a black hole, so the time slows down in comparison to the load?

P.S.: Are you sure it's the latter?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22584 on: March 28, 2016, 11:15:32 PM »
That's a clear statement. Should we then put the generator near a black hole, so the time slows down in comparison to the load?
P.S.: Are you sure it's the latter?
Yes, but we do not need black holes to accomplish that. 
It is enough to slowly spin up the generator (input) and quickly spin it down (output), to obtain a large out/in power ratio or power amplification ...albeit no energy amplification :(
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22585 on: March 28, 2016, 11:37:42 PM »
But black holes are nice anyway.

If we charge a battery and we need 10 hours to charge it fully, then what happens if we could accelerate time surrounding the battery so the battery still needs 10 hours to charge fully but in our time only one hour pasts?

Wouldn't that mean that we can draw 10 hours 1 watt from the battery but it needed only 1 hour and 1 watt in our time to charge it?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22586 on: March 28, 2016, 11:54:45 PM »
This is so elementary, that I will not dignify it with an explanation and pollute this thread with "back to basics" lessons.
Maybe someone, who has more patience, will discuss it with you via PM.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22587 on: March 28, 2016, 11:59:42 PM »
No, Watts are units of Power, which is a measure of the rate at which energy is transferred or converted to another form of energy.  Watts are not units of energy.
Energy is never "consumed", neither is power.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22588 on: March 29, 2016, 04:05:43 AM »
You condescending, arrogant, dismissive asshole. Fuck you.
It seems you've run out of substantial arguments

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