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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13673894 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22515 on: March 25, 2016, 12:00:05 AM »
TESLA'S BIG MISTAKE?

Or rather our mistake?

I borrowed the below drawing - also to see on PAGE 5 of this thread - and modified it a bit.

What do you think? The left hand side generates high voltage at 100KHz in the Tesla coil. Now we assume this high voltage creates ionization and this ionization contains the energy from the medium (the cosmic rays). The direction of energy flow is always from high to low frequency. Thus the low frequency side, which resonates at 50KHz, should be able to collect that energy.

Question: Since we can't see such a double Tesla coil anywhere in the Kapanadze and Stepanov videos, could this kind of setup also work at 50Hz/100Hz with an ordinary 50Hz transformer? A three-phase transformer consists of three loosely coupled transformers. So one transformer generates high voltage (pulses) and thus ionizes the high voltage coil, whereas a second transformer coil and a capacitor forms a resonant circuit resonating at half the frequency of the high voltage. Thus the lower frequency coil could collect the energy coming from the at higher frequency ionized medium (if there is any energy in it at all).

The low frequency generator is necessary in order to convert (stimulate) the ionization into a supplementary magnetic field. And of course, the high frequency generator can be replaced by a frequency doubler circuit connected to the low frequency side.

Anyway, I think low tech experiments are more promising than experimenting with boxes full of MOSFET transistors and PLL circuits. And if this forum must indeed go in circles then why not rather big circles instead of small ones so we can start right from the beginning? ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22516 on: March 25, 2016, 01:30:10 AM »
    Zeit:
   The beginning of what? The first TK device? The green box, glass box, glass box 2 (aquarium).
   
   You can't see the driver circuit. What is a driver circuit?   
   Back to the beginning, alright. 
   Start with what makes all those coil oscillate in the first place, the driver circuit(s).
   Ruslan's version of the drivers made by Oleg. (2nd pic below). Sorry for the blurry shot, but I think that you'll get the point.

   
   You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices,  maybe you should look again. First pic below.

   That Tesla double coils set up that you posted has been tried, and found to not be a free energy device.  What you put in, you get out, minus the losses. It's not an efficient system for higher wattage incandescent bulbs, either.
  But, Tesla's free energy set up is still a tightly held secret.

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« Reply #22517 on: March 25, 2016, 09:39:14 AM »
That Tesla double coils has some sense, but it was wrongly pictured. You have to have tank circuit in transmitter part and it could and should work in low frequency, while producing high frequency. The essense is high Q. [/size]

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« Reply #22518 on: March 25, 2016, 11:05:24 AM »
Start with what makes all those coil oscillate in the first place, the driver circuit(s).
Ruslan's version of the drivers made by Oleg. (2nd pic below). Sorry for the blurry shot, but I think that you'll get the point.

I can't see any driver circuits neither in Kapanadze nor in Stepanov videos nor were such electronic components available in times of Tesla and Moray. Hence why should we need them? It's completely illogical to use »high end« electronics here.
   
You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices,  maybe you should look again. First pic below.

There is a certain similarity. But after a closer look it is different. The high voltage antenna (on the right) should actually be the output coil.

Since so far no one could replicate that Ruslan device, something must be wrong with that concept.

Let's say it this way: If one intends to build a fake device based on Tesla patents then the most convincing method would be to make it look like a special kind of a Tesla coil.

That Tesla double coils set up that you posted has been tried, and found to not be a free energy device.

Tried by whom? By Ruslan? So if that Tesla double coil above is not a free energy device then why should the Ruslan double coil be a free energy device? Remember you said: »You can't see the double Tesla coils in the Ruslan/Akula devices, maybe you should look again.«

You have to have tank circuit in transmitter part and it could and should work in low frequency, while producing high frequency.

Right. When the transmitter part is connected to a frequency doubler circuit instead of a generator, then the primary transmitter coil is connected in series with a capacitor and a resistor (Stepanov) and that setup generates not high frequency per se but high voltage spikes at twice the frequency of the output side.

Interesting! How close can we get and still have no working device?

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« Reply #22519 on: March 25, 2016, 06:06:04 PM »
@stivep

Regarding that last video of TK you posted.

Tesla Coil (TC) makes HV that goes back to the primary. So you start with the classic 9vdc battery to a small pulse circuit to a small TV flyback primary coil (Tin Can Size), run that flyback HV into the TC primary via a spark gap until the real secondary can start pumping its own HV that feeds into the same TC primary spark gap (now looped). If the TC secondary can have a tap point at 33% up to bleed some output. Wonder if that would work. One TV flyback and 1 TC.

But if you take the TC HV and compress it back to usable amps. There beside the TC is that three coil thingy with the outer coil wound over it. So pass the TC HV through something like that all three in parallel and see if volts goes down and amps goes up.  All of these are going inside that Black Box. Again. Just like the tin can and the green box. Probably the first flyback coil is in there and he is doing other straight connections in the box as well so no one can see the total wiring method that would have given away too much info. hahaha

Thank you for your reponse to my previous post. Standing ovation because you went the extra mile and you now understand some things you do not understand. I have read way to many. From now on, my criteria is - no mention of the words electron and field. hahaha That just crossed off 98% so makes my life simpler these days. I have learned the best thing. How to learn. How to step away and look back. You know @wattsup 1.0, now I'm version 2.0. My 1.0 asked for a divorce and went away because I never plugged it in anymore. hahaha (just joking but ironic as well.)

Almost forgot about that pdf you posted (Andrei_Melnichenko_Inventions.pdf) I looked it over. You  know I have a big problem with so many of these Russian designs with their direct line going to load. I do not agree with the description of function and would not want to put time into it myself because I have too many other projects that provide better justification or promise. What is it with these Ruskies anyways. Direct line to load with a small inline breaker and they say it will do what? Produce overunity? I doubt it but again, who knows.

I saw your last video of that great machine. You are ions ahead in the toy department. Maybe one day I will drive to New York and visit. Or if you ever come to Montreal, you are welcome anytime.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22520 on: March 25, 2016, 06:14:39 PM »
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/302l/lectures/node34.html
this link may help to understand mechanism of electrostatic potential./


when you read it it is easy to understand with  quite simple language used in it.
there is an explanation of every symbol that is used there  and best off all it  clearly shows you how static electricity works


There is given XYZ coordinates inside  the sphere.
 when you  look at the  figure 14  look at  it as sphere with the center , and from that you will see 
- X
-Z
- vertical Y - is the line( starting from point strait to your eye)( top view)
 exactly  try to see it in 3D form slices of the sphere 


So now you ask  what do I need it  for?
it is concept of Electrostatic Pump  Phenomena
Well ..........I assigned electrostatic potential difference as   primary  reason- force of electrons being pumped from the ground  .( /TK/Akula/ Ruslan/ Vasmus/SR/)
 
Let's say for the moment that I'm right in my thoughts.
Than you have foundation  and you can build anything that can push you forward in your experiments.




You have  pumped "medium"- electrons from the ground[/size]


You have driving force - electrostatic difference - (the attractive one for electrons from the ground)


You can  think of  electron inertia  between intervals of  stimulating impulses from  nano/ pico/ second  stimulating impulses .


You can think of electron density  in form of  questioning ..why?-Ruslan , Akula, and TK( in big power devices) are using very thick copper as a ground wire.?


==============================================================================================



Electrostatic Pump Phenomena
the example of 15 girls ( 15 years old) pushing the car
and after the while, there  is need only for 1 girl to sustain the losses.
after another while, there is a need for one finger of one girl ( pushing) to sustain the motion and compensate the losses.


1. In Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan Anominus, SR, Vasmus, devices there was always  initial source of energy to start the  device.
So the first push of 15 girls = initial  energy at/to start.


2. electric motor ( not under the load) obeys the same  requirements. initial  energy at/to start.


3. flywheel ( not under the load) obeys the same  requirements. initial  energy at/to start.


4.Since  after that   device/ motor  has started than there is accumulation of kinetic energy  in  it. Than very small source is  enough to  make it run


( one finger of one girl))


If than we use  load that takes more energy that is compensated by ( one finger of one girl))  than  anyone of the devices listed  above will start to lose its kinetic energy and eventually it will  go to the full stop.
Now we have  logical conclusion that


 energy used= energy compensated  just to keep device in perpetual motion under  the load.




It is good for us that :
That conclusion is not true  when "additional energy" source is being controlled by   our ( one finger of one girl)).






So lets provide list of forces we are talking about so far:


A- initial source to  start  and accelerate  (15 girls/ or  12V battery .)
B- compensating  force  ( one finger of one girl or any small source)).
C. -the "third source" - external energy that  is controlled  by B force.


conclusion :
1.now the B force is no longer compensating force but is controlling force.
2. now that B force can take advantage of controlling  electron flow from the ground


!!So instead  of just concentrating on  looking for  C force  we can look at any force that can be controlled by B force.!!!






The little bit original would be just to  think:
How much force  B you need to  push button  to  run the engine?
How much force  B you need to  control valve  in the pipe with  flowing water.
the success if  slave system in USA  at very history of US was : little force used to control  army of work force that did not have to be  paid for,
The modern form of slavery is to get more than it cost.
And that is the goal of FE.

get more  than ... it cost you.




In  that USA early feudalism  - self-looping was made by slave close loop  at no cost to the slave owner.






I need to finish  now  this article.



Beta particles  energy sources are being used as power supplies for space  satellites.
Assuming that   in concept of
Electrostatic Pump we use inertia of electron flow from the ground
the one finger of one girl could be compared to any energy that we do not have to pay for used as stimulating energy for the electron flow.


This article is just skeleton  and does not have body yet.
You can use it to build the walls around the skeleton and new interior.
 You can alter  it   but it is good to have something solid -a foundation.





Wesley   

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22521 on: March 25, 2016, 06:21:41 PM »
   Zeit:
   No drivers on the green box video, either?  Check to see what those two transistors are doing there, in the video below.
Eye candy, as well?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Np8n_etUs
   
  After that Tariel didn't really show what is driving his coils.  But, those coils don't just drive themselves, without a pulse circuit, and/or a spark gap, in most all of his devices. It still may work as simple as he says it does. Unlike Ruslan's last device, with all those components.

  You said, "There is a certain similarity. But after a closer look it is different. The high voltage antenna (on the right) should actually be the output coil".

   Well, that antenna coil on the right serves a different purpose, but if connected as in the diagram you posted it would be the same. However that antenna coil on the right is the output coil, for the HV circuit. Which by induction is then stepped down through the 168 turns coil windings, that are part of the grenade coil that is just under it.  This also makes it possible to light higher wattage incandescent bulbs, not just CFL, or LED bulbs, at the grenade's output coil.  However, that is not the whole purpose of that set up, nor explains how it self runs.
   All the Tesla diagram circuit you showed will do, is step down the HV by the third coil, so that it will light the smaller incandescent bulb. But, as there is no feed back circuit, that device will not self run. Nor was it meant to, nor provide free energy.

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« Reply #22522 on: March 25, 2016, 07:40:56 PM »
No drivers on the green box video, either?  Check to see what those two transistors are doing there.  Eye candy, as well?

Those transistors are the same ones as seen in the 2004 video (blue-orange coil). And shocking what a surprise: Each of them is connected with only two wires. How can a transistor work as transistor that way?

After that he didn't really show what is driving his coils.  But, those coils don't just drive themselves, without a pulse circuit, and/ or a spark gap, in all of his devices.

But Stepanov shows what is driving his coils: a) the grid (can be replaced by an inverter like Kapanadze did) and b) by a frequency doubler circuit.

The two drivers are the grid and the frequency doubler circuit. Why should we need more?

Well, that antenna coil on the right serves a different purpose, but if connected as in the diagram it would be the same. However the antenna coil on the right is the output coil, for the HV circuit. Which by induction is then stepped down through the 168 turns coil windings, that are part of the grenade coil that is just under it.

Then you are saying that the Ruslan device works but the similar drawing above will definitely not? Strange.

The issue here is this: Can Ruslan make a three-phase device? Kapanadze can and also Stepanov can. That automatically means, all over-complicated setups are out of the picture.

A small consideration: What did Kapanadze prior to his discovery of that OU-effect? What did Stepanov prior to his discovery of that OU-effect?

Best answer so far: They experimented with three-phase power factor correction methods - not with Tesla coils. Thus the solution to all this has to lie in a simple three-phase transformer.

And here comes another OU inventor working coincidentally with three-phase devices and machines.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22523 on: March 25, 2016, 09:20:51 PM »
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Those transistors are the same ones as seen in the 2004 video (blue-orange coil). And shocking what a surprise: Each of them is connected with only two wires. How can a transistor work as transistor that way?

could be two diodes

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« Reply #22524 on: March 25, 2016, 11:55:47 PM »
Those transistors are the same ones as seen in the 2004 video (blue-orange coil). And shocking what a surprise: Each of them is connected with only two wires. How can a transistor work as transistor that way?

But Stepanov shows what is driving his coils: a) the grid (can be replaced by an inverter like Kapanadze did) and b) by a frequency doubler circuit.

The two drivers are the grid and the frequency doubler circuit. Why should we need more?

Then you are saying that the Ruslan device works but the similar drawing above will definitely not? Strange.

The issue here is this: Can Ruslan make a three-phase device? Kapanadze can and also Stepanov can. That automatically means, all over-complicated setups are out of the picture.

A small consideration: What did Kapanadze prior to his discovery of that OU-effect? What did Stepanov prior to his discovery of that OU-effect?

Best answer so far: They experimented with three-phase power factor correction methods - not with Tesla coils. Thus the solution to all this has to lie in a simple three-phase transformer.

And here comes another OU inventor working coincidentally with three-phase devices and machines.


   Zeit:  Yes, I'm saying that the Tesla coil with a third coil is not a self running device. It takes input power from the grid or from another power source to provide for any output it may have. Just like any normal circuit does. But, will not run by itself, as there is no feed-back path, as mentioned.
   The Ruslan/Akula/TK devices are self runners. They are not just an inverter, like your previously posted diagram

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« Reply #22525 on: March 26, 2016, 01:25:27 AM »
You missed again the closing quote tag. 8)

Yes, I'm saying that the Tesla coil with a third coil is not a self running device.

Neither is Kapanadze's green box. It needs an external feedback loop.

The first thing to come is the surplus energy, then we can try making it a self-runner.

But thinking twice: Maybe Kapanadze's green box actually is a self-runner, but he damped the internal feedback on purpose, so he could fiddle about a bit with the external loop during demonstration to make it look more interesting in front of the camera.

I'm saying this, because the strange thing is that self-running Kapanadze devices (started with a 9V battery) are always looking simpler than the Kapanadze devices which need an external feedback loop through an inverter and a transformer.

could be two diodes

If we connect two diodes back-to-back, what do we have? A non-linear resistor?

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« Reply #22526 on: March 26, 2016, 02:04:24 AM »
  I don't know what you mean by an external feed-back loop,  as there is no internal feed back loop. The device's output goes through a step down transformer, of some sort, and is then feed back to the input side with the correct voltage and current for the driver circuit to operate from.  At least on all the Ruslan/Akula devices, that were shown. How Kapanadze does it is not too clear to me. As it's why I can't even try to replicate any of the Kapanadze devices. Maybe someone else knows or has studied it more than I have.  As I focus on the Ruslan devices which there are schematics, videos, and some instructions to.  Unlike Kapanadze, who doesn't spill the beans.

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« Reply #22527 on: March 26, 2016, 02:01:42 PM »
Zeitmaschine has suggested that we should look for a minimal configuration. He has highlighted the frequency doubling effect of a full-wave rectifier, and he (I think) and others have mentioned parametric oscillators (like the Botafumeiro) which are pumped at twice their resonant frequency and in which under certain conditions "the system enters parametric resonance and the amplitude begins to grow exponentially, even in the absence of a driving force".

Botafumeiro: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4AkVj-qnJxNtKuz3rkq16A
Parametric oscillator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_oscillator

So here is one minimal version. A resonant parametric oscillator is given an initial push by the starter (a 9v battery?). The activity in this oscillator is transformed into usable AC output and delivered to a load in some way that has minimal effect on the oscillator. Part of the output is rectified and delivered as frequency doubled feedback to a module that pumps the parametric oscillator.

The question is, can the combination of a parametric oscillator and some kind of output transformer deliver enough output to do useful work and at the same time sufficiently powerful feedback to keep itself going?

There seem to be two ways of varying the parameters of an LC system - by varying the capacitance and by varying the inductance. On the face of it the techniques used in magnetic amplifiers to vary inductance look more promising. As for a Lenz-free output transformer ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22528 on: March 26, 2016, 02:36:24 PM »

The question is, can the combination of a parametric oscillator and some kind of output transformer deliver enough output to do useful work and at the same time sufficiently powerful feedback to keep itself going?

Batfish

Good question. I think it most unlikely.

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« Reply #22529 on: March 26, 2016, 02:40:05 PM »
@stivep

I read that last pdf on electric potential. Here are the first two paragraphs and comments.

Para 1 - Start
We have seen that the difference in electric potential between two arbitrary points in space is a function of the electric field which permeates space, but is independent of the test charge used to measure this difference. Let us investigate the relationship between electric potential and the electric field.
Para 1 - End

How did they see the difference in electric potential between two arbitrary point in space? How did the field permeate the space? How is it then independent of the test charge. How did they produce the test charge?
If the answer is "they used some type of conductive metal in an energized coiling or pointal discharge and the same conductive metals in some type of sensors, then you have to throw all this into the garbage because the whole basis from the start is faulty. This is why we have been hypnotized. You read the first paragraph and you automatically think all this is normal. There is nothing normal in this save the fact that such paragraphs are the stable chronic mind wasting talk we have grown up with since our birth.

Para 2 - Start
"Consider a charge q which is slowly moved an infinitesimal distance $dx$ along the $x$-axis. Suppose that the difference in electric potential between the final and initial positions of the charge is $dV$. By definition, the change $dP$ in the charge's electric potential energy is given by...."
Para 2 - End

Right away we are asked to "consider" a charge Q. WTF is that? Is it a lonely charge that was left to fend for itself in this vast and inhospitable universe? What if from the beginning, what we don't know is that there is no such a thing as a charge Q. The is no charge. The only reason we invent such ideas is because we need to explain the same damn thing that has been haunting man since it first discovered the lodestone and that is action at a distance.

Then we have as per your diagram showing the "field" around the wire, or it could be a coil or a magnet.

So in nature, show me something that is willing to waste so much energy sending a field in every possible space in every possible direction around an object. Why would nature want to do that? How can nature do that and expect to survive? Why should nature need to do that when in nature we already know that all the effects of nature are always at their minimal force required to obtain a result. Nature does not waste or create excess or do things it is not required to do.

So in the field business, we need to understand two things.

A) Either all copper atoms in our coils and sensors are totally stupid objects that require the coaxing or some form of orientation by outside fields because the atoms are too stupid to notice them on their own. So without a field, an energized coil is like a rock, totally impossible to influence other atoms around it because the field is the one doing all the work. This is our life right now. Very tiring indeed because the field just robbed everyone of our precision of effect. The field will do it. Don't worry man, just pass the field and the wire will produce electrons, charge q, or whatever you want to call it.

or,

B) The atoms in our copper wires are in fact very smart and very able critters that respond to the presence of the central point of an energized coil or magnet. The atoms was designed by nature to incorporate a central nucleus that can respond on its own to any strong energized or magnetized presence. Not the field but the object itself. So the copper atoms in our sensors do not need fields. They respond to outer forces like a dog responds when it see a squirrel, it just goes haywire. No fields required.

It's like you have your head, and inside your head you have eyes, and inside your eyes you have specialized atoms that have a great affinity for light sources. The sucker is told the light has to travel to your eye for your eye to catch it and form an image. The thinker will say wait a minute. If my eyes already have the specialist atoms, then why do you need to send the light anywhere. Why not just leave the brightness where it is since I can see it from here very well. Why bring the light to my eye? No reason man. So man creates the light/time illusion so it falls into its overall illusion of action at a distance.

So you can have two choices.

1) The object sends out a field in every direction hoping that there will be some type of sensor out there able to be influenced by the field then produce a glitch on your scope to show, OK' I got it. So if you have 1000 sensors. Each sensor would require to feel that same field presence in order to react in its censorial manner to acknowledge the action is being accomplished at a distance.

2) The object produces an internal energized state (what I call Condensed Gravity) where its atoms are agitated and therefore our sensors do not need any field because they can simply sense this agitation on their own. So your 1000 sensors do not need any field because each one already has the ability to resolve any new energized states in their vicinity. And as for energized states, the vicinity can be right beside it or across the country, in the universal sense, those two distances are peanuts compared to the vastness of space and these atoms have had good practice for ions to perfect their responses. We just do not realize how they tick and tock.

So now you have two options, keep feeding the illusion of the field and by consequence its only ever discussed muscleman "the electron", or let the power be in the objects themselves in their real atomic nature and discover how atoms are precise, pointal, reactive, without any field or electron required.

I have taken the second path now. All our effects can be explained with this second path in concrete cause and effects for action at a distance. The readings on your scope, the brightness of your bulbs, and into every other possible action of nature.

As a small example; The X-ray source stops being a ray pusher and becomes an inwards gravity source. The rays do not pass through your body to hit the plate to show your skeleton. The X-ray source creates an inward action where the plates simply responds from where it is but decreases where your skeleton is masking the inward effect. We have been working backwards since over 100 years now and that's why our toys only waste energy because our present construct only enable us to see energy in this illusory manner so that we cannot manipulate our toys with any better precision then passing a field. What do all the energy production methods do ultimately is "pass a field". That's where we are stuck and that's why we do not have OU today.

So in your experiments, there are two options of viewpoint.

1) The present one is that your target is expelling some type of rays outside the object itself and your sensors are being hit by these and producing your nice little dots on the screen.

or

2) The sensors in your instrument have copper or other conductive atoms that are simply able to respond to the objects internal energy fluctuations without requiring anything to be ejected from the object into the sensors. This is where science has gone so far astray that it is practically impossible to push it back into the right direction of perspective because it is stuck in several feet of brain fat. Fat that has been layered and layered over the years to become so mind numbing that anyone reading the first two paragraphs shown above will not think for a second that such talk is nonsense, on the contrary it has become part of our daily acceptances.

How does a shark sense blood from miles away? Must be the blood shooting out an immense field to yell out "I'm here, I'm here, keep your eyes on me". Or could it possibly be that the shark has sensors with atoms that have a great affinity for detecting blood without any field required. Which one would nature choose? The one that needs to expend copious amounts of energy to announce it presence into every possible direction around it for miles away, or the one that just needs that atoms to be smart and fend for themselves like everything else in nature.

So I understand that for the most part OUers right now have to fight every day to try and see something past the common modes and because of our constructs, our blind acceptance of the conservation of energy has been shoved down our throats day after day after day until our minds have become nothing more then foie gras.

I guess I am saying all this because I know your position towards overunity and this TK thread is a good example to show. If the TK devices are real, then you will never be able to describe its function using standard terms and precepts of action/reaction. Nothing in the present construct accommodates such events. Our system is based on loss. But when we start discovering that our atoms are the ones doing all the work and not these fictitious fields and electrons, our designs will change, our wire will change, or pointal intent for action at a distance will change, we will master the atoms inborn abilities, like a dog loves playing with a ball, his head will follow your hands every movement reacting and ready to dart after the ball once it is thrown, our atoms want to play the same way but all they get is general field massage. This is the way I see our effects today. This is a new way. This is really the only new way I have had to develop myself because it was not in any books. This is my opening in the box that shows a whole new world of effects based on the actors and not any specially prepared script. This is the way to Overunity.

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PS:

1) Examples of field problem. Try to find a University that will be willing to do the following experiment #1.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3209.msg53505#msg53505

2) I have stated a while back that when Tesla invented the AC motor, this should have rendered the "electron flow" model of electricity obsolete since you cannot have an alternating current where a neutral wire is also grounded as in our present electric grid system. You cannot have alternating current to "flow" in such conditions. So far no one has seen fit to debate this issue. Funny how our standard models prefers to keep quiet when subjects get to precise. But I have 100s more of these.

 

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