Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 16500962 times)

stivep · « **Reply #22440 on:** March 20, 2016, 10:12:39 PM »

Roberto:

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Hi Wesley,
1 - I just started reading paper you kindly shared. I've been for more than 30 years a licensed Radio Amateur (i0LY).
So, even if the power considerations made are theoretically correct...
I've never seen any kind of usable power coming from an unbalanced transmission wave!
what happens is direct conversion mainly into heath....as predicted ....

2 - Few years agò I tested a complex ONE TO MANY TMT system (1 x transmitter and 6x receivers) just to check existance of possible power multiplication at the combined receivers end. Even if I noted some interesting facts...I failed to obtain in output more energy than the supplied input.

----I continue to read the article....

Note in the article:
-first force is the force that we create by our-self and introduce to the system
-second force is the force in NEAR FIELD that is induced in the secondary winding of transformer. that source is only serving a source to any other devices connected to it.
However that is not the source in relation to primary force. It is only force that was created by the first one.
- third force is an independent force that is "pushed" to work for our benefit like horse for the farmer

Unfortunate is for OU community that I very much agree with you.

The advantage of photon radiation in microwave region is only when in NEAR FIELD coupling rate of change , of magnetic component of electromagnetic force, is able to induce something or anything in secondary winding.( of the transformer) There is no gain proved to be available for us from that arrangement.

As always the voltage is increased with current dropping down so that transfer is at no gain.
We need “third source”- /force that is being activated by the primary force and than stimulated to the point where under first force influence,
- the power drown by the load is solely coming from the third source
That force is the one that is not being charged for-( does not cost us money)

Microwave region of frequencies - has insufficient energy per photon to
interact with the matter, other than being converted to heat.

Wave-guides DO NOT serve as photon summarizes. Photons can not interact with themselves nor accumulate their own energy nor see each other.
They have no idea how many photons of the same or different properties is there exactly on their path., Photon of particular wave length can interact only with suitable resonators of the same wavelengths of its ½, ¼ and so on.

I see OU that is useful for us as No OU in reality.
e.g Tubing used to suck with your mouth , gasoline from the car tank uses only one short under pressure impulse and the rest of the flow is done with gravity ( at the condition of gravity dis-balance between the two tanks.
That serves as the example of “third force”= gravity.

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e.g. stimulating force of the hand opening the valve of the water pipe is small.
Comparing to water flow paid by a river.

When we leave classical mechanics and go to the quantum world the same mechanism must be present.

So I'm asking you if there is something in that paper that I simply did not noticed.

I read so much of material and it is impossible to make suitable analysis all the time.

Wesley

Meta · « **Reply #22441 on:** March 21, 2016, 05:15:36 AM »

"And is why meta-physics should be included and not excluded from our discussion. Right? Meta?

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Yes, that's why my name is Meta.
It means "over and above" physics.
That which controls physics.
The hidden world.

Now NickZ is asking questions I can only take as needing an answer so I will.

What is light?

Packets, I hear, however I did make a hypothetical advance and say that light, "travels" in 2 opposite directions just like DNA spirals in 2 opposite directions so faster-than-light travel can be explained easily, seeing that the detectors are only detecting the returning packets, at the velocity of light. "Traveling" here, means more like communicating rather than moving. It seems the matrix of deep space communicates at the velocity of light.

And light or, technically, its energy, already pervades all of space but unless lights energy touches mass of any kind, it will not radiate its light unless reflected off the mass. In deep space there is lights energy but there's nothing to reflect it so we can't see it. Technically there's 1 electron per cubic foot of deep space.

Meta · « **Reply #22442 on:** March 21, 2016, 05:30:42 AM »

verpies,

A "dimension" is defined by all of Science, as "a 90 degree rotation of an electron". Meta

Not strictly - a dimension is just an independent variable.

Of course in geometric systems, 90º symbolizes that independence, e.g. as in a perpendicular motion.

BTW: Any motion is a ratio of space to time.

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Let me ask you how you can demonstrate your claims without using more words. Do you have some kind of documented evidence? When we make claims we should be able to back them.

Define Independent variable. What creates it?

"BTW: Any motion is a ratio of space to time."

What does that mean? You can only use more words to describe these words.

Meta · « **Reply #22443 on:** March 21, 2016, 05:50:47 AM »

acca,

Kapanadze's device doesn't seem to have any antenna to pick up the spatial potential like a Moray device or Tesla's Black Box powering his car. I think Moray and Tesla used a series of step down transformers to bring the extremely high spatial potential down to usable levels.

stivep · « **Reply #22444 on:** March 21, 2016, 05:53:00 AM »

Word: Meta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta
If there is no practicality fallowing theory in any field than any equivalent or substitution to theory newly introduced is worth nothing.
At first it is only concept that has not been fallowed in modern times
Second even if that concept of perceptual processing is really right way to go it does not have push to rewrite science as we know,

I'm not denying nor protesting Meta involvement in this forum.
I'm not able to take any benefit from it.
the simple way to explain it is that I have the same comfort of going on like Meta has with his new form of processing information.
At the end if it is proven that Meta was right it would not give me any harm.
If it is proven that Meta is wrong that would not be any revolution.

Definitely I do not see it as a conflict.
If you get somewhere where solid solution is proposed - Meta just share it,
I can admit that in "your world" I'm completely lost.
I'm in physics not metaphysics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics

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Metaphysical Cosmology is the branch of metaphysics that deals with the world as the totality of all phenomena in space and time. Historically, it has had quite a broad scope, and in many cases was founded in religion. The ancient Greeks drew no distinction between this use and their model for the cosmos. However, in modern times it addresses questions about the Universe which are beyond the scope of the physical sciences. It is distinguished from religious cosmology in that it approaches these questions using philosophical methods (e.g. dialectics).

With all due respects to all believers.

do not drag me there...
This is for me unacceptable form of wasting my time.
Charlatans have been working hard to their own benefit based on facts that are mixed together fights with dragons and holly wars, killings punishments an angels with swords .
And than even if one person is trying to clarify that branch of science and place it as valuable tool - first it must be taken out of the trash and washed out from all of the dirt.
And I see it as next to impossible.

I wish you the best.

Wesley

Meta · « **Reply #22445 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:01:58 AM »

Westley,

I should have sent this to Roberto, rather than you..my error. Im referring to his TMT system he mentioned.....

What transmitter, you ask? This one....

"2 - Few years agò I tested a complex ONE TO MANY TMT system (1 x transmitter and 6x receivers) just to check existance of possible power multiplication at the combined receivers end. Even if I noted some interesting facts...I failed to obtain in output more energy than the supplied input."

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If you would have stepped the transmitter's 3D voltage up into the 4th dimension using a transformer, then stepped that 4D HV, HF back down again using another transformer, to 3D again, you would have multiplied the output, just like Gerard Morin did. Im sure of it.

stivep · « **Reply #22446 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:22:42 AM »

Quote from: Meta on March 21, 2016, 06:01:58 AM

"2 - Few years agò I tested a complex ONE TO MANY TMT system (1 x transmitter and 6x receivers) just to check existance of possible power multiplication at the combined receivers end. Even if I noted some interesting facts...I failed to obtain in output more energy than the supplied input."

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If you would have stepped the transmitter's 3D voltage up into the 4th dimension using a transformer, then stepped that 4D HV, HF back down again using another transformer, to 3D again, you would have multiplied the output, just like Gerard Morin did. Im sure of it.

I will try to explain where is that I get lost:

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If you would have stepped the transmitter's 3D voltage up into the 4th dimension using a transformer

1. what transmitter
2 what frequency
3. what is the power
4. what is the modulation or it is unmodulated carrier
5.what is 3D voltage
6.what is 4th dimension
7.what is the property of each of the dimension causing it to be significant.
8. how would you specify potential difference or any other properties that could be reached by going to 4th dimension.

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back down again using another transformer, to 3D again, you would have multiplied the output, just like Gerard Morin did. Im sure of it.

9. why do we need to jump between dimensions.
10. what kind of multiplication do you have in mind give me measurement units. e.g Watts / Jules / Coulombs / and so on
11What is significant in similar kind of behavior between Gerard Morin and your experiment.
11a. what is gain energy coming from?
12. attach the drawing or the schematic of the practical arrangement of your experiment setup.

Please provide answer to the questions without being send to literature to find the answer by myself.
However links are appreciated as well.

Wesley

pix · « **Reply #22447 on:** March 21, 2016, 07:49:10 AM »

Quote from: Meta on March 21, 2016, 05:50:47 AM

acca,

Kapanadze's device doesn't seem to have any antenna to pick up the spatial potential like a Moray device or Tesla's Black Box powering his car. I think Moray and Tesla used a series of step down transformers to bring the extremely high spatial potential down to usable levels.

Yes Meta,
That is what Kapanadze is doing.

Zeitmaschine · « **Reply #22448 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:25:23 AM »

Quote from: cheappower2012 on March 19, 2016, 09:46:03 PM

How the coil is wound is not important,however the length(how long the wire is) is very important

Then is it also important how long the wires/cables are between the device (fancy coil) and the load?

Quote from: Meta on March 19, 2016, 11:45:02 PM

I can wind a toroidal coil that cancels all electric and magnetic readings on a meter leaving only higher energies. What do you say to that.

Show me.

Quote from: Meta on March 19, 2016, 11:24:37 PM

Do we also ignore the circulating electricity in the Perpetual Motion Holder (PMH example), which is very similar to the circulating electricity in the power strip?

The holder stores energy, it does not continuously dissipate it like the bulb on the power strip.

Quote from: Meta on March 21, 2016, 06:01:58 AM

If you would have stepped the transmitter's 3D voltage up into the 4th dimension using a transformer, then stepped that 4D HV, HF back down again using another transformer, to 3D again, you would have multiplied the output, just like Gerard Morin did. Im sure of it.

Where can I see a (self-running) free energy device built by Gerard Morin?

Quote from: Meta on March 21, 2016, 05:50:47 AM

Kapanadze's device doesn't seem to have any antenna to pick up the spatial potential like a Moray device or Tesla's Black Box powering his car. I think Moray and Tesla used a series of step down transformers to bring the extremely high spatial potential down to usable levels.

Do we need two transformers? If we have a 3-phase (or even 2-phase) step up (or step down) transformer, then can we perhaps step up and step down voltage with one and the same transformer at the same time with a single magnetic field?

Just an idea. I think Stepanov uses the second transformer in the carpentry setup only to distribute the energy between the three phases.

And so far ionization (of a transformer winding) is the best explanation where the extra energy is coming from. The ionization connects to the medium (aether) and therefore it can collect additional energy from that medium. Maybe we can call that medium also the 4th dimension; it does not really matter.

Meta · « **Reply #22449 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:13:42 AM »

Quote from: pix on March 21, 2016, 07:49:10 AM

Yes Meta,
That is what Kapanadze is doing.

Are you sure this is what he's doing.
I dont see a line of transformers in Kapanadze's device.
He will need from 2 to 12 transformers to bring extremely high spatial potential down to usable levels. Thats why Morays box was so long, hum?

verpies · « **Reply #22450 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:18:44 AM »

Quote from: Meta on March 21, 2016, 05:30:42 AM

A "dimension" is defined by all of Science, as "a 90 degree rotation of an electron". Meta

Hey, you started it, so let me ask you first how you can demonstrate your claims without using more words.

Meta · « **Reply #22451 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:24:20 AM »

Westley,

"do not drag me there...
This is for me unacceptable form of wasting my time.
Charlatans have been working hard to their own benefit based on facts that are mixed together fights with dragons and holly wars, killings punishments an angels with swords ."

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I hate religion more than you do. I dont go into religion but you have to understand that the ancient religion was science in ancient times...it was all a super-science and then some priest made a religion of part of it so we have to acknoledge it occasionally then bypass it.

verpies · « **Reply #22452 on:** March 21, 2016, 11:51:48 AM »

Quote from: stivep on March 21, 2016, 06:22:42 AM

What is 3D voltage

Although I do not subscribe to the idea of such "voltage", by semantic analysis a "3D voltage" would be an electric difference in potential, that can be completely described by three independent numbers. By "independent", I mean that any one of these numbers can be varied without affecting the two others.

Quote from: stivep on March 21, 2016, 06:22:42 AM

6.what is 4th dimension

It can be a mathematical dimension as in the equation ax³ + bx² + cx + d, where the coefficients a,b,c,d can be varied independently of each other. As such, that equation is 4-dimensional and e.g. the coefficient "d" is a 4^th dimension in that equation.

A dimensionality of an abstract Euclidean geometry can also refer to the minimum number of coordinates needed to describe position in it or the maximum number of lines that can be mutually perpendicular to each other.

In such geometry, the 4^th dimension would be the direction along some 4^th line, that is perpendicular to the remaining 3 lines , which are also mutually perpendicular to each other.

In a 3D euclidean geometry, three 1D motions can occur parallel to these three orthogonal lines, without effecting each other's magnitudes. The orthogonality of such motions guarantees their independence. That's why the axes in a 3D-printer are all perpendicular to each other.
If one of these motions was not perpendicular to the others ( e.g.: at an 89º angle ), then it would affect the magnitude of the remaining motions and the their independence would be lost ....because cos(89º)>0.

BTW: We commonly measure motion as space divided by time, with units such as kilometers per hour (km/h) or miles per hour (mph).

Quote from: stivep on March 21, 2016, 06:22:42 AM

7.what is the property of each of the dimension causing it to be significant.

The defining property of a dimension is its independence from all of the remaining dimensions.
Of what is the magnitude of each dimension in a "3D voltage"? I don't know - you'll have to wait for Meta to answer that, but whatever the answer, these magnitudes must be independent of each other.

ALL OF THIS IS ELEMENTARY but could not be communicated without words to convey these concepts. Especially on a forum, such as this, where words are the primary means of communication.
I'd like your feedback whether you understood these words.

P.S.
The rest of your numbered questions refer to NON-ELEMENTARY concepts, which are not mine, and I will not endeavor to answer them.

Meta · « **Reply #22453 on:** March 21, 2016, 12:31:59 PM »

Westley,

I already posted Morins video and my MetaQEG.pdf for everyone but I'll do it again for you. Why do I

have to do things two or three times? Those posts will be after you make me answer all these

unnecessary questions that are answered in Morins video and in my Addenda page 2 and 3 of the

MetaQEG.pdf.

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I will try to explain where is that I get lost:
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If you would have stepped the transmitter's 3D voltage up into the 4th dimension using a transformer

1. what transmitter
The TMT transmitter of another poster I erroneously sent in your direction.

2. what frequency
Frequency of the solution? HV, HF RF...15,000 v, unknown freq, no instrument measuring Morins freq

3. what is the power
Power in watts....In- 1,500 watts, Out- 6,500 watts

4. what is the modulation or it is unmodulated carrier
No carrier in 4D, space is the carrier?

5.what is 3D voltage
120v in, on the low side of transformer 1
120v out on the low side of transformer2
15,000v between transformer1 and 2, horns on top.

6.what is 4th dimension
The dimension following our 3 dimensions, simple....only they come in sets...1,2,3 and 4....5,6,7, and 8

7.what is the property of each of the dimension causing it to be significant.
The higher the HF, RF and HV reached in 4D, the more electricity is produced when stepped back down

to 120-240v.

8. any other properties that could be reached by going to 4th dimension.
All other miraculous phenomea is available from 4D upward...invisibility, Tesla shields, beam weapons,

space-time anomalies, matter changes, Hutchison metal breakdown.....

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back down again using another transformer, to 3D again, you would have multiplied the output, just

like Gerard Morin did. Im sure of it.

9. why do we need to jump between dimensions.
That's where the spatial potential is.
That's the source. The Dirac sea.

10. what kind of multiplication do you have in mind give me measurement units. e.g Watts / Jules /

Coulombs / and so on
1,500watts in, 6,500watts out.
It depends upon the Kw rating of the two transformers

11What is significant in similar kind of behavior between Gerard Morin and your experiment.
Gerrard starts in the 3rd dimension, then jumps to the 4th then comes back down to the 3rd.
I bypass the 3rd, nullifying it and go directly to the 4th and extract the potential directly in the

MetaQEG.pdf

11a. what is gain energy coming from?
Space energy already existing, eternally open to the dipole battery terminals.

12. attach the drawing or the schematic of the practical arrangement of your experiment setup.

Im gonna make you read and listen now..

MetaQEG.pdf

Morins set up
Free Energy Feb 2015 The Doubt about OverUnity is Over Gerard Morin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DROoUg1Hio8

Meta · « **Reply #22454 on:** March 21, 2016, 12:48:04 PM »

Westley,

Metaphysical Cosmology is the branch of metaphysics that deals with the world as the totality of all phenomena in space and time. Historically, it has had quite a broad scope, and in many cases was founded in religion. The ancient Greeks drew no distinction between this use and their model for the cosmos. However, in modern times it addresses questions about the Universe which are beyond the scope of the physical sciences. It is distinguished from religious cosmology in that it approaches these questions using philosophical methods (e.g. dialectics).

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The information is error.

First there was Cosmology, the beginning.
Then Cosmogony, the process of toroidal SELF creation, no creator required.
Then Mythology was created to symbolize Cosmogony's story...
Then Religions were derived from Myth,
And now we have forgotten the source, Cosmology...

Ive studied all of this for 40 years

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