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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12790368 times)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22350 on: March 02, 2016, 06:28:36 PM »
Wesley,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I read this as the device is very inefficient and certainly not running overunity?? How can 3.5KW circulate in a closed loop - that is nonsense! If its being dissipated in a closed loop, what is it being dissipated in and where is the power source?
You not wrong..........
But till it is proven otherwise - you not right.


 Akula is inconsistent in his statements. that is given
Everything else is your   speculation around Akula


Wesley
PS read my post again I have  made some additions  and corrections to it.
Question: If Akula with his device  knock to your door are you going to kick him first  and than try to  accept or first you accept his presence and eventually  you  OK with that or  kick him out?
the same is  with me... I  first   gave him a credit based on informations I have and than  I form my opinion in moore  precise  way.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22351 on: March 02, 2016, 06:34:05 PM »
If its being dissipated in a closed loop, what is it being dissipated in and where is the power source?

Maybe he means the closed loop is a parallel LC circuit, so the power circulates between the electric and the magnetic field without much dissipation.

Just a thought ... :)

Dear Zeitmaschine,

you wrote:  "Now the next comes and try to convince me that my conclusions according to my experiments are wrong."

Here comes one more conclusion: The left hand diagram is proven to work. Here we have capacitors charged with free electric energy. So the only conclusion can be that the right hand diagram also works on that free energy. And here we are back to the grounded parallel LC circuit seen in the Stepanov device and in my previous schematic.

So could there be something »wrong« again with my conclusions?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22352 on: March 02, 2016, 06:51:21 PM »


Question: If Akula with his device  knock to your door are you going to kick him first  and than try to  accept or first you accept his presence and eventually  you  OK with that or  kick him out?
the same is  with me... I  first   gave him a credit based on informations I have and than  I form my opinion in moore  precise  way.

I see nothing wrong with your approach. My approach is to suspect foul play until my opinion is changed by information indicating otherwise. Its not looking at all good at the moment! As for him knocking on my door, it would appear that he is too busy dealing with people knocking rather loudly on his door!!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22352 on: March 02, 2016, 06:51:21 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22353 on: March 02, 2016, 06:55:18 PM »
Maybe he means the closed loop is a parallel LC circuit, so the power circulates between the electric and the magnetic field without much dissipation.

Just a thought ... :)

Here comes one more conclusion: The left hand diagram is proven to work. Here we have capacitors charged with free electric energy. So the only conclusion can be that the right hand diagram also works on that free energy. And here we are back to the grounded parallel LC circuit seen in the Stepanov device and in my previous schematic.

So could there be something »wrong« again with my conclusions?
the right  diagram is just crystal radio.
There is no free lunch.
Transmitter  of AM radio station sends the power received by the receiver from diagram 2.
the only difference is that this  Free Energy is free for you as someone have had already paid for it.


The diagram 1 I did not analyzed as of yet
Wesley

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22354 on: March 02, 2016, 07:02:42 PM »
Wesley .....Thanks for that look at that video of Global wave...

I am certain that Akula may now place himself in a " must help mode " as not

providing that may hurt him ... Once he disclosed his cards there is no going back..

As I see this as   " (Acula) " a person of interest....

Trapped in to cooperation with this group ... hope for the best for Akula..

"B.s. ing" the the big bear is very not good for him.. he will be treated good if he produces..

My opinion is that his deal with the German guy is and the small deal with China was a setback..

Not the right price...

Soo ... now it' s the big bear !!!

Acca...
Well this is looking quite good !
The announcement of the creation of a global wave of trade union, Ilya Tesla, Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083)

lets hope we can move on from this our feet are stuck in !sticky stuff !   like!
« Last Edit: March 02, 2016, 09:05:20 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22355 on: March 02, 2016, 07:10:24 PM »
the right  diagram is just crystal radio.
There is no free lunch.

You only think that because ...

The diagram 1 I did not analyzed as of yet
Wesley

... you haven't analyzed Fig. 1, but you can see it here in action Free Energy From Air Circuit

Therefore, if the antenna in Fig. 1 can collect free energy, then the antenna in Fig. 2 must also be able to collect free energy. Only possible conclusion: A crystal radio works on free energy.

Fig. 1 works with DC, Fig. 2 works with AC.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22356 on: March 02, 2016, 07:42:18 PM »
A crystal radio works on free energy.


If you say so, but you now need to power that 2KW electric fire with it. Come back to table when you've achieved that feat.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22357 on: March 02, 2016, 10:14:00 PM »
Good idea. Let's say each of us would be in the size of an ant, then a few milliamps provided by a crystal radio could power a complete ant household. So what's the problem? We have just to make a bigger crystal radio, so it fits our size. :P

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22358 on: March 02, 2016, 10:34:32 PM »
My approach is to suspect foul play until my opinion is changed by information indicating otherwise.
That's guilty until proven innocent.  I guess you do not subscribe to American ideals.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22359 on: March 02, 2016, 11:36:33 PM »
That's guilty until proven innocent.  I guess you do not subscribe to American ideals.

Guilty until proven innocent only in the case of self-running claims.  ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22360 on: March 02, 2016, 11:49:09 PM »
Figure 1 in the diagram is also an RF powered
circuit.  It is a pair of voltage doublers.  One
doubler produces a negative DC output while
the other produces a positive DC output.

The capacitors in the circuit must be quite small
with a low impedance at Radio Frequencies and
the diodes should be schottky or germanium.

How much DC power produced will depend upon
how close the circuit is to a commercial AM
broadcast station or stations.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22361 on: March 03, 2016, 12:11:07 AM »

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gyulasun,

I already done something similar with Flyback and  simple circuit.
3 videos

1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1SP9nMVWec

2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hU5CCBt5k

3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdG4_BkxPI

cheerz~

Hi GeoFusion,

Went through your videos you listed.
First what I can say is that with such high voltage tests there can be high EM near field waves all around the source of the HV (the flyback transformer) and the spark gap(s) which can 'charge up' the metal or some other materials nearby, (on 'charge up' I mean the metal objects develop a voltage difference with respect to the earth or to other objects nearby) thus any serious power in/out measurement attempts should be designed to avoid the influence of the strong EM field. You must have had 20-25 kV HV generated between the 'cold' and 'hot' ends of the flyback coil I think, this was the output voltage level range.

Without the ground earth connection (circuit schema No 1), the lamp was dark (or dim) I think because the HV output circuit was not as complete as in the case of the ground earth direct connection to the 'cold line' of the flyback coil (this connection was missing when the lamp was dark). With the connection of the earth the lamp got very bright because much more energy from the HV flyback coil was "enabled" to reach the lamp via the 'embedded' capacitance of the iron plate with respect to the earth. (The HV coil was loaded with a more complete loading structure + the lamp than it was without the earth connection, this is what I mean.)

In your circuit schema No 2, when you connected the ground earth to the salt water capacitor I think the DC component of the half wave rectified HV output voltage should have increased (you inserted a puffer capacitor across the HV output via the ground capacitance of iron plate, this is what schema No 2 indicates for me), this explains I think the higher brightness for this circuit.  Of course the capacitance of the iron plate versus the ground earth was present in the circuit No 1 too, but how much this structural capacitance played its effect in the two circuits depended on the actual pF values of both the salt water cap itself and the iron plate capacitance versus the earth ground (yes I come along again with this bloody capacitive voltage divider...).

I do understand that you are convinced on the importance of the earth ground bringing free energy and without it the lamp was either dark or dim, this is what your tests showed you. For me your tests meant what I wrote above, please do not hate me for this... Unfortunately, the effect of earth (whether it gives any extra energy or not) can only be proved with very careful measurements and set of instrumentation, way beyond most of our capability.

Thanks for the videos and the schematics and please keep experimenting, regardless of my opinion. Your clamp meter EL900 is a nice one, however it may not measure correctly higher than 50/60 Hz AC frequencies , please keep this in mind when using it (I have not found specifications for it but the user manual should include it).

Gyula

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22362 on: March 03, 2016, 01:04:29 AM »
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The modified experiment

I have modified the previous experiment working with a spark gap. Now the spark gap is replaced by a resonant LC circuit (therefore no back looping radio waves). The L of that circuit is an isolation transformer connected to an oscilloscope. The LC circuit is tuned to resonate at the frequency of the high voltage transformer (maybe 50/60 Hz or maybe 100/120 Hz). The oscilloscope shows clearly several volts across the secondary coil of the resonant transformer. That implies there has to be a magnetic field in the iron core of that transformer. No alternating magnetic field, no alternating voltage.

Now the strange thing is: I can't see any change of current measured in the 12V line, regardless whether the resonant LC circuit (inclusive ground) is connected or not (cut marking). So the question reads: Where is the energy coming from that generates that magnetic field? It is obviously not coming from the battery since the ammeter always shows just the idle current consumed by the inverter and the high voltage transformer. Actually sometimes the current goes even slightly DOWN when the LC circuit is connected. Possible answer: The energy is coming from space due to the ionization of the antenna.

Could anyone confirm this experiment? Maybe I'm doing something wrong here. :)


Dear Zeitmaschine,

Regarding your modified circuit (Reply #22335) and using the parallel LC resonant circuit at one end of your HV transformer and an antenna wire at the other end of the HV transformer, I think you 'drive' the 50 Hz HV voltage into the parallel LC circuit via the "invisible" coupling capacitance of the antenna wire, the ground is a passive connection between the antenna wire capacitance and the ground end of the LC circuit. The parallel LC circuit surely have several kOhm resonant impedance so its loading effect on the HV output voltage is negligible, this explains there is no input current change at the inverter input.  This circuit is the same like you feed a parallel LC circuit from a signal generator via a coupling capacitor at the resonant LC frequency: this does not load the output of the generator. The scope at the output will surely measure the stepped down voltage across the coupling coil as you show in the drawing. So there is magnetic field in the core of the transformer, no problem.

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Here comes one more conclusion: The left hand diagram is proven to work. Here we have capacitors charged with free electric energy. So the only conclusion can be that the right hand diagram also works on that free energy. And here we are back to the grounded parallel LC circuit seen in the Stepanov device and in my previous schematic.

So could there be something »wrong« again with my conclusions?

On your Free Electricity Out of Thin Air circuit references I think the followings: Yes they work and are able to produce some uW or mW output power, depending on the antenna lenght and location. The received energy comes from radio (AM and FM) and / or television broadcast or mobile phone central stations and from any appliance that creates so called "electric smog" like a plasma globe/bulb etc. The "nasty" thing with these circuits is that they receive energy that has already been created by the utility providers but others broadcast it in the form of RF waves to you. Any moment such broadcasts are switched off your free energy source is gone. I do not consider these circuits to be free energy circuits.


Then I have a simple question for you: Since you are writing a lot in the Dally thread, and this suggests you accept this free energy effect somehow as true, what do you think is the very basic principle of the Kapanadze and Stepanov devices? 

Well, sorry but I do not know the basic principle, I wish I knew, then I would inform you or anyone else on this forum. I can agree with your guess as it is ionization. Perhaps they ionize the air? it is composed of mainly N2 and O2... 

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I would like to calculate the ionization. It separates positive and negative charges, as I see this. Hence the question, what is responsible for those charges (separated or not)? Where is the negative charge, an electron has, coming from? Can we perhaps do something with this charge, except moving it around in a wire by force? Could we perhaps make use of an unknown quantum mechanical effect? 

Sorry but I am not good at chemistry. Just looked a book at google books: High Voltage Insulation Engineering: Behaviour of Dielectrics;    by R. Arora and Wolfgang Mosch and  and on page 61 for instance the ionization energy in eV is listed for some gases. Surely there are other books on this.

My answers may sound to you as if I want you to walk a new round in the labyrinth again...  but I hope you understand this is not my intention. 

Greetings
Gyula

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22363 on: March 03, 2016, 03:38:33 AM »
the guy  is naked.....


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #22364 on: March 03, 2016, 03:49:30 AM »
What do you guys think it is?

Hi Wesley. Regarding what is in the little ball, Keshe calls it 'GANS', I believe. It is some oxide or other chemical residue
that Keshe makes, which Keshe believes/claims has very special properties. They put it into things like ping pong balls
or other small containers. Keshe has 'explained' about 'GANS' in many of his videos, and this may also
be mentioned to some extent in the Keshe 'Magravs blueprint' documentation as well, which can be found here:
https://blueprint.keshefoundation.org/blueprint.php

 

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