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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 11977720 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20190 on: November 13, 2013, 04:35:07 PM »
So what is time? In an empty space there is nothing, but we can't measure time with nothing. :D
Not with nothing, but we can measure it with a quantity of space.
I will not answer this question in detail now in order not to give away the puenta for Khwartz.

Meanwhile you can read this, to illuminate the issue, but remember that this is not my answer although I agree with it 90%.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20191 on: November 13, 2013, 04:43:59 PM »
What is an electric field?  What are its mechanical properties and interactions?

a) Has the Earth an electric field?

I asked the question first. 
Please define electric field and its properties as you understand it.

P.S.
Just because a question is fundamental, does not mean that it is simple.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20192 on: November 13, 2013, 05:02:09 PM »
I asked the question first. 
Please define electric field and its properties as you understand it.
Simple as that in the context of what we are seeking here: Has the Earth an electric field of such a kind like a charged capacitor has? The only thing that is of interest in this context: Can I convert the electric field (of the Earth or a capacitor) into radiation by connecting e.g. an incandescent lamp to it? Yes for the capacitor. And for the Earth?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20192 on: November 13, 2013, 05:02:09 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20193 on: November 13, 2013, 07:05:21 PM »
plz whats all this useless garbage I see, plz refrain from posting if you have no electronic schematics or videos to share from experiments made. I am trying to follow the topic but theres some garbage all over the place.

lets keep this short and sweet and to the point, in respect to others.

Plz do not respond or quote this post, do not wish to add more chit chat.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20194 on: November 13, 2013, 08:40:14 PM »
Here I have a schematic. :)

What happens with the electric field of the capacitor in- and outside of the Faraday cage?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20194 on: November 13, 2013, 08:40:14 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20195 on: November 13, 2013, 09:01:32 PM »
Do you really want to discuss such stuff on OU forum?
Most people here will not understand it anyway and soon start objecting to too much abstraction and too little engineering....and they probably would be correct.
Well, if made on a specific thread, who cares?! If at least 2 people are interested ;) and could one or a other day someone else be interested. "Of the Very Nature Of Space, Time, Energy and Matter", is that a name you would approve or have you a better name, dear Verpies ;)
plz whats all this useless garbage I see, plz refrain from posting if you have no electronic schematics or videos to share from experiments made.
@ Khwartz

See, I told you ;).  Please make another thread if you don't want to annoy people like ARMCORTEX.
Any subject name you find suitable is fine with me including "On the Very Nature Of Space, Time, Energy and Matter".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20196 on: November 13, 2013, 11:07:34 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGJnG-00Gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y
(MEG replication videos)


http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=2698


Also reminds me of Hendershot solenoids and magnets...


The patent is based on 3-6 foot rod 2-3 inches in diameter; was thinking since it's just high inductance to low inductance could be 2 cross coupled transformers; that failed for me; maybe has to be an open magnetic path between the two... so a couple ferrite rods maybe...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20197 on: November 14, 2013, 10:20:08 AM »

In energetic devices, you don't have any such medium, unless you postulate an ephemeral and unmeasurable Aether - a concept that has been tried and failed.


Not entirely true... but further evidences was convenient denied. See here:
http://www.sinequanonthebook.com/AetherReinstate2.html


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20198 on: November 14, 2013, 10:27:24 AM »
@Zeit, Here is one for you, got home last night and spent 2 hrs playing. Induction hob with 2 pancake coils placed one on top of other, 1 pancake to a 1200watt fire the other pancake wired direct to a standard coil (same type of wire wound on 50mm plastic tube and a secondary over top to see what I could pull off). Did not get much just dim 100watt bulb, put a 8mm steel screw driver up center of plastic tube (no ferrite handy) still no reaction from bulb or watt meter. After a few seconds could smell burning then realised the screw driver was glowing red hot so pull it out quick due to plastic handle melting. Now the question is where does all that energy go after pulling out red hot screwdriver, It is almost as if the coil has potential energy of sorts, I pushed screwdriver back in and it heats up again quite quick but no reaction from watt meter and the coils did not heat up when screwdriver removed, once again obviously a lot of energy to get to red hot but take out screw driver and circuit is cool and quiet, where does the energy go as opposed to where does it come from?
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20198 on: November 14, 2013, 10:27:24 AM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20199 on: November 14, 2013, 12:15:58 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGJnG-00Gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y
(MEG replication videos)
I wonder what would Hoppy's skuldugery detector notice about these videos.
There are many unnecessary cuts in those videos and the handling seems unnatural, however I have to give him good credits for turning the device around while it is running, at the end of the second video.

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=2698
Non-members cannot open this attachment.  Repost it here.

Also reminds me of Hendershot solenoids and magnets...
Hendershot incorporates acoustic / mechanical vibrations - this device does not (or they are not seen / heard )

The patent is based on 3-6 foot iron rod 2-3 inches in diameter;
That 140 year old patent seems to be somewhat related to those videos.
It is difficult to buy iron rods nowadays (steel is not a problem, but that's not the same)

was thinking since it's just high inductance to low inductance could be 2 cross coupled transformers; that failed for me; maybe has to be an open magnetic path between the two... so a couple ferrite rods maybe...
When you don't know the Modus Operandi, you can only guess.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20200 on: November 14, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
Non-members cannot open this attachment.  Repost it here.

I did; it's attached on that message....


Yes... MO.  That is an important thing to have.  I'm trying to establish what mode the apparatus works in.


... like the mazzilli has several 'resonant' frequencies... at low voltage, it can be a very high frequency pulse, then after a threshold it generates higher voltage lower frequency osillations... (lower as in, on scope it goes from a solid bar/white noise signal to 2 waves... 100x dividier/multiplier )


then higher, my secondary load comes on; but at that point all power on the primary is pretty much gone... then increasing the voltage (and subsequently amps), the primary load comes back and secondary is strong...


re the hendershot.... the russian replication doesn't seem to have a sound component ...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3LRmSovEX8

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20200 on: November 14, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20201 on: November 14, 2013, 12:20:37 PM »
Now the question is where does all that energy go after pulling out red hot screwdriver
It depends what the watt meter shows. When the watt meter shows less energy consumed than the heat coming from the screwdriver suggests then something here is not in accordance with the known laws of physics. Otherwise the energy that the watt meter reads is perhaps converted to a magnetic field when the screwdriver is out. Anyway strange things are reported constantly when playing with induction hobs.

Hmmm ...

As no one here seems to have an advanced idea on this subject:

The wire of a transformer's secondary coil is also »already conductive«. Nevertheless I can get current out of it when connecting both ends together.
That is different because in that case we have a time a time varying magnetic field that does work by pushing the charges away.
In your pot/cage system, the work was supposed to be done by the attraction of separated opposite charges coming together.
But we do have a time varying component: it is the closing and opening (electronically) of the Faraday cage that creates incoming waves of an otherwise static electric field.

Can we convert a static magnetic field into a varying magnetic field without the consumption of (much) energy? I don't think so, but maybe, who knows.

Can we convert a static electric field into a varying electric field without the consumption of (much) energy? Since contrary to a static magnetic field a static electric field can be shielded easily, therefore I think it is more likely that this could work.

On Kapanadze's table there is a metal box. By definition a box made of metal is a Faraday cage. No doubt about that. Kapanadze's box is always closed, that's for sure, no moving parts. The outside of that box is connected to a wire, also for sure. Most likely the wire on the outside is connected to the ground. What's left is the inside of that box. So what if the inside of that box is connected to something like a coil or a capacitor (resonant LC circuit)? Could this perhaps create a special physical effect that we have missed so far?

Wouldn't a Faraday cage with two connections, one at the inside and one at the outside (see below), be a nice novel electronic element? :D

Of course extern and intern pins are connected low-ohmic with each other. But this is also true for a coil. And no one would say, because of this, that a coil cannot have any effect on the circuit it is connected to. Could it be that due to the incoming electric field waves an apparent resistance (like in the wire of a coil) is created in the walls of the Faraday cage?

Hence more ideas are welcome what this new electronic part could do when connected properly to an electronic circuit.

P.S.: Since we don't know what an electric field actually is, then maybe it doesn't matter that we also don't know what a magnetic field actually is, does it? ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20202 on: November 14, 2013, 12:42:30 PM »
@Zeit,Thanks for reply, I will continue with this the weekend to try to get measurements. The coils the way wired at the moment I had running for 30 mins all cool no screwdriver, then put screwdriver up tube got red heat, took out screwdriver let cool 30 secs then put back in get red again all whilst watching watt meter and bulb- got very little reaction about 0.05 watts  from 656.02  to 656.07. I am at the moment trying to convert output from hob to high current low volt (12) to make output useful as can only light bulbs and fire. I do always seem to get more out than in according to wattmeter but hard to tell just looking at fires and bulbs. Can easily light 20x 100 watt bulbs to what looks like full bright with wattmeter showing 1100 watts, went back to induction due to the fact that circuits are very lively and always work.Will play at this again the weekend.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20203 on: November 14, 2013, 01:36:14 PM »
Not entirely true... but further evidences was convenient denied. See here:
http://www.sinequanonthebook.com/AetherReinstate2.html
Michelson-Gale experiment from this article, simply measures the rotational speed of the Earth using the Sagnac Effect in a circular interferometer.

The Sagnac Effect in a circular loop can be understood as follows:
According to Special Relativity, the speed of light is independent of the speed of its source. 
When the interferometer loop is rotating with the Earth, the emitter & detector also move with the Earth during the transit time of counter-propagating light beams. The backwards-propagating beam covers less distance than the forwards-propagating beam and arrives earlier at the moving detector. This creates a shift in the interference pattern. The shift of the interference fringes is thereby proportional to the angular velocity of the whole interferometer.  The axis of rotation does not have to be inside the enclosed loop area.

Fiber Optic Gyros function according to the same principle, and they can sense rotation regardless of the orientation of their axis (e.g. horizontal as well as vertical).
The circular relay of GPS radio signals around Earth is subject to the the same Sagnac Effect as well.

As you can see these experiments do not constitute evidence that space is filled with an all-pervading fluid that slows down light because it does not rotate with the Earth.

The space of our daily lives is just a reference system created by gravitating observers.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20204 on: November 14, 2013, 01:40:00 PM »
@Zeit,Thanks for reply, I will continue with this the weekend to try to get measurements. The coils the way wired at the moment I had running for 30 mins all cool no screwdriver, then put screwdriver up tube got red heat, took out screwdriver let cool 30 secs then put back in get red again all whilst watching watt meter and bulb- got very little reaction about 0.05 watts  from 656.02  to 656.07. I am at the moment trying to convert output from hob to high current low volt (12) to make output useful as can only light bulbs and fire. I do always seem to get more out than in according to wattmeter but hard to tell just looking at fires and bulbs. Can easily light 20x 100 watt bulbs to what looks like full bright with wattmeter showing 1100 watts, went back to induction due to the fact that circuits are very lively and always work.Will play at this again the weekend.
Regards
Keith
Instead of a screwdriver, can you not insert a pick up coil?

 

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