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### Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15439656 times)

#### zcsaba77

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20175 on: November 13, 2013, 10:11:03 AM »
Energy problem is solved!!!!!!!

#### Zeitmaschine

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20176 on: November 13, 2013, 11:40:24 AM »
I claim that space (and time) of our daily lives are just geometric reference systems and their only properties are magnitude and direction.
Supposed there is only space (we are alone in space nothing at all around us) then how to measure the magnitude and the direction of that space? How can I measure a direction when there is no reference point to determine an angle? How can I measure the magnitude of space when there is nothing in this space hence I do not have any point of reference? Perhaps we should drop the properties magnitude and direction as well. When we define space as »nothing« then this nothing cannot have any properties.

Here are more outlandish conceptual errors ... err ... ideas:

The Earth's electric field is all around me. Now I take a Faraday cage and then I close it (could be a metallic cooking pot with a lid). The laws of physics now say a field captured inside the cage creates an electric charge on the inside-wall and an opposite charge on the outside-wall. Now I take a wire and short-circuit (maybe through a load) the inside with the outside of the cage's wall. This should briefly generate an electric current. After that the potential difference is gone and the field inside the cage is also gone (exactly like with a charged capacitor but this one has only one plate closed-looped by itself). When I open the cage again a new electric field from the Earth can flow in to re-charge the cage. Because the Earth's electric field actually is very faint (but on the other hand inexhaustible), it would be an idea to do this 100.000 times per second or so.

Thus just a strange thought: Could it be, that the tin can on Kapanadze's table itself is the source of the energy coming out of it?

Anyway, the basic idea here is that when an electric field is surrounded by a metallic shielding (Faraday cage) then this shielding acts like a charged capacitor with one three-dimensionally looped plate (sphere, cylinder, box). The positive charge is on the outside and the negative charge is on the inside of that plate - or vice versa, don't know. Maybe that depends whether the cage is grounded or not.

But at least the one-plate capacitor is a new conceptual idea here on page ...

#### captainkt

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20177 on: November 13, 2013, 12:27:04 PM »
@Zeit, Obviously your Faraday cage outside surface must be insulated from inside surface so how do you think Kapanadze does this with what looks like an all copper box with a switch on top and a 15 mm hole for a load of wires to go in?
Regards
Keith

#### Zeitmaschine

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20178 on: November 13, 2013, 01:40:37 PM »
No problem with the holes when properly shielded. The problem would be the switch and its metal mounting. And just by chance the mounting of that switch looks very odd. What we see as a massive copper plate could be just copper-clad board material with no copper on the inside. So there is shielding form the copper on the outside but the plate is non-conductive on the inside.

Interesting ...

#### andrea76

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20179 on: November 13, 2013, 01:41:15 PM »

I just spoke with Joseph Newman on the phone. He told me that he had looped the machine and it was now a perpetual motion machine.

My concern was the cost of production per kwh. He was very evasive.
I pointed out to him that solar panels were an alternative.
I asked him what was the cost of manufacturing a 10 kw unit. ie  a Newman machine which could produce 10 kw.
Not a gentleman at all.
I wouldn't give him a penny.
However his technology works.  We need to find a way to reduce the miles of copper wire his device uses.

increase the frequency.eg:Prentice work on 500 khz and one half mile wire,but the current is DC to optimize the device.IF kapanadze pulsed the secondary (long wire) instead of the primary of Tesla coil for create ,in resonance,the standing wave at the speed of light?the copper tubing is only one load protection and control of the correct  operation. the load is connected only after a few seconds

#### captainkt

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20180 on: November 13, 2013, 01:49:16 PM »
@Zeit, I believe it is all copper soldered together, and around base if you look close are either diodes or transistors bolted in the side.The picture needs enhancing, Kapanadze work bench in the bedroom vid shows lots of copper bits and cuttings.
Regards
Keith

#### verpies

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20181 on: November 13, 2013, 02:00:59 PM »
Supposed there is only space (we are alone <snip> nothing at all around us) then how to measure the magnitude
by its relation to time.

...and the direction of that space?
scalar direction - by its relation to time
vectorial direction - by its relation to another gravitating observer or gravitating reference point.

How can I measure the magnitude of space when there is nothing in this space hence I do not have any point of reference?
Only with time. Actually, it is impossible to measure space without involing time in it somehow.

How can I measure a direction when there is no reference point to determine an angle?
It is impossible to determine vectorial direction without additional points of reference.
...and that's the beauty of it - the reference system of our daily lives is defined by gravitating reference points (or observers) and non-gravitating observers define another type* of reference system.

Perhaps we should drop the properties magnitude and direction as well. When we define space as »nothing« then this nothing cannot have any properties.
We should not. I did not define space of our daily lives as "nothing" - I defined it as a geometric reference system... created by gravitating observers.

The Earth's electric field is all around me.
What is an electric field?  What are its mechanical properties and interactions?

Now I take a Faraday cage and then I close it (could be a metallic cooking pot with a lid). The laws of physics now say a field captured inside the cage creates an electric charge on the inside-wall and an opposite charge on the outside-wall.
If you are referring to that Feynman lecture, then it was an electric charge that was trapped in the pot, not an electric "field".

Now I take a wire and short-circuit (maybe through a load) the inside with the outside of the cage's wall.
The cage is already conductive so nothing will change.

This should briefly generate an electric current.
No it shouldn't, because those opposite charges on the surfaces of the pot have been separated by a force originating from that central charge trapped in the pot and that central charge is still there keeping those surface charges separated, so they will not "want" to attract back together, despite having an easy path through the conductive wall of the pot/cage.

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* "another type" of reference system means a reference system that cannot be made equivalent by any combination of translations and rotations.   Such other types of reference systems do not constitute the space of our daily lives anymore.
This is also the reason why I am so careful to put the words "of our daily lives" after the word "space" every time I use it.

At this stage of discussion I expect you to be fixated on the concept of space of our daily lives and ignorant of the existence of other types of spatial and temporal reference systems as well as relationships between them.

#### Zeitmaschine

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20182 on: November 13, 2013, 02:35:20 PM »
@Zeit, I believe it is all copper soldered together
Believing is not knowing.

by its relation to time.
scalar direction - by its relation to time
So what is time? In an empty space there is nothing, but we can't measure time with nothing.

If you are referring to that Feynman lecture, then it was an electric charge that was trapped in the pot, not an electric "field".
And this charge then created a field in the pot. Hence does it make a difference whether I put a charge in a cage (that creates a field) or a field straightaway?

The cage is already conductive so nothing will change.
No, it shouldn't because the force from that central trapped charge in the pot, that keeps those opposite surface charges separated is still there and will keep the surface charges, so they will not want to attract back together despite having an easy path through the conductive wall of the pot/cage.
Is that a theoretical »No« or a practical »No«? Because there has to be a good reason for Kapanadze to shield his device carefully.

The wire of a transformer's secondary coil is also »already conductive«. Nevertheless I can get current out of it when connecting both ends together. Actually the wall of the cage has to be conductive otherwise there would be no closed electric circuit.

Have the strange feeling we are very close to something. At least in dry theory.

#### Сергей В.

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20183 on: November 13, 2013, 02:48:57 PM »
Why magnetic field doesn't exist on temperature 4.2K with very high current density of 1e6 A/cm^2.  THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL DATA !!!!!!!

The Josef Newman has a right. CURRENT IS NOT A SOURCE OF MAGNETIC FIELD !!

OTHER ANOMALIES I WILL NOT MENTION YOU - TO STOP WHIRLPOOLING YOUR MIND !!

COMPLETE TODAY "SCIENCE" CORRECT WORD "IGNORANCE" IS OUT OF GOOD HEALTH LOGIC AND MIND - HER MAIN GOAL TODAY IS COMPLETE ABSURD !!

IN NATURE DOES NOT EXIST NOR POSITIVE CHARGES NOR NEGATIVE !! EVERYTHING IS MUCH MUCH SIMPLER AND IN SAME TIME ABSOLUTELY GENIOUS !! THANKS MOTHER NATURE !!

DO YOU REALY THINK MOTHER NATURE IS SO STUPID TO ANNIHILATE YOURSELF ??

READ THE BOOK "FINAL APPEAL TO MANKIND {AND LAST}" - MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND - END OF CIVILIZATION !!

#### verpies

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20184 on: November 13, 2013, 03:01:48 PM »
Hence does it make a difference whether I put a charge in a cage (that creates a field) or a field straightaway?
Yes, because this field is a field of forces caused by a charge.
The lesson learned from that should be the mechanism by which the charge causes those forces at a distance.

Is that a theoretical »No« or a practical »No«?
Both

The wire of a transformer's secondary coil is also »already conductive«. Nevertheless I can get current out of it when connecting both ends together.
That is different because in that case we have a time a time varying magnetic field that does work by pushing the charges away.
In your pot/cage system, the work was supposed to be done by the attraction of separated opposite charges coming together.

#### Alik

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20185 on: November 13, 2013, 03:25:52 PM »
All devices are on the same Kapanadze effect is sparking a certain gas ( in the case of hydraulic liquid to power it ) ( in the video he turns freon gas bottle is a welcome refueling of air conditioners when it is filling for " wet" ) (( (Goal sparks - Getting atomic hydrogen. ....) )))
Simultaneously, this amount is equivalent anode part of the fuel cell , the atomic hydrogen is sent to the magnetic flux ( it replaces part of the electrolyte ) fuel cell conditioned , ground water and the air cathode is a portion of the fuel cell conditioned ... (many fuel cells are open systems )
( somewhere Tariel told him that the earth can replace the negative terminal BATT )
it will still work and to run the ( weak pull) and some time after the launch ....
Our gain is the acceleration of protons in a magnetic field .... + recombination matter ...
Discs Kapanadze mentally continue mechanics Kapanadze ( this rotation is stupid mechanical chopper plus a comfortable inertia) becomes the core shaft . Small coil begins to reel big trees between takes . The discs begin to spark the hull ... and again the white matter (a consequence of the sparks in the gas )

In the case of banks, he did brilliantly , he falls gas straight from the can to spark ... Rude but car ...))) well done ... )))

There was a story here ....

Persian-Princess Sh-Pr
1996 .

I once had to travel from Moscow to Yaroslavl, and a neighbor in the car was
muzhichek some 50 years , and now I have it by chance were talking about electrical engineering ,
and in particular about whether "anywhere " to obtain an increase in the power circuit.
And then Uncle Nick told me this : it turns out it works
electrician Wrappers at some factory in Kostroma .
And he and his colleagues produced a crafty power transformer
to power the machines in the shop . But the essence is this:
primary cell wound wide copper tape
across the width of the window of the core , or rather even tape
and copper sheet in a few turns and resale plain,
copper bus , i.e. wire with the receiving voltage 380 -400V .
Served on a primary DC from the rectifier through the car breaker ( timer )
while at sharp pulses with copper tape is reset mysterious substance
type of gas or liquid can be hands feel
strongly pricked hands if exposed to the winding.
Between themselves, they called it a green or blue flame fire.
A shot from the secondary winding with a mad power
that was more than enough to power 4 lathes.
children received a reprimand , a transformer had to be dismantled immediately ,
deprived of many awards , as if for the classes in the workplace,
topics not related to the work itself .
Threatened with dismissal.
It happened back in 1972 .
Then I came in Yaroslavl , but no contact Uncle Kolya did not take ,
did not even ask any name, nor that of the company where he worked, shy shorter ...

Something similar happened here, guys ... probably in the workshop were the remains of welding gases inside the BATTERY apparently sparking gap ... He stood up so well that the magnetic corridor formed atomic hydrogen ... white matter than it is faced with atomic hydrogen in the air ...

Apologies for the automatic translation

PS ...... Proton is our CE- brother it can disperse in a magnetic field is nothing on it without spending a ...
Tool for removing the power .....
Schematic diagram of the hydrogen fuel cell ... Overclocking the magnetic field in the area of standard electrolyte ... The presence of an electrolyte can be bypassed .. using .... The mechanism Grotgusa

It remains of course the question should be immediately removed from the chain of the fuel cell (ie before the earth wire .) ? .. or accelerate protons flow along the way and still be working on the further winding removal definitely oriented ? ? ...

Все девайсы Капанадзе на одном эффекте идет искрение в неком газе (в случае с гидравликой он сжиженный для мощности)( в видео он переворачивает фреонный балон это прием заправщиков кондиционеров когда идет заправка по "мокрому") (((Цель искрения - Получение Атомарного водорода.....))))
Одновременно этот объем является анодной частью условного топливного элемента, атомарный водород направляется в магнитном потоке (это заменяет электролитную часть) условного топливного элемента, заземление с воздухом и водой это катодная часть условного топливного элемента... (у многих топливных элементов это открытые системы)
(гдето Тариель говорил что заземление ему может заменить отрицательный вывод аккума)
оно будет еще работать и до запуска (слабенькая тяга) и некоторое время после запуска....
Наша прибавка это разгон протонов в магнитном поле....+ рекомбинация вещества...
Диски Капанадзе мысленно продолжают механику Капанадзе, (это вращение тупо механический прерыватель плюс удобная инерция) Вал становится сердечником. Маленькая катушка начинает большая катушка между валами принимает. Сами диски начинают искрить о корпус... и опять белое вещество (следствие искры в этом газе)

В случае с банкой он сделал виртуозно, он падает газ из банки прям в область разрядника... Хамски но прокатило...))) молодец...)))

Произошла вот такая история....

Persian-Princess Sh-Pr
1996г.

Пришлось мне как-то поехать из Москвы в Ярославль, и соседом в вагоне оказался
некий мужичек лет 50, и вот у меня с ним случайно зашел разговор про электротехнику,
а в частности о том, можно ли "ниоткуда" получить прибавку мощности в электрической цепи.
И тут дядя Коля мне такое рассказал: оказывается он работает
электриком-обмотчиком на каком-то заводе в г.Костроме.
И они с коллегами изготовили хитрый силовой трансформатор
для питания станков в цехе. А суть вот в чем:
первичка наматывалась широкой медной лентой,
по всей ширине окна сердечника, точнее даже не лентой,
а медным листом в несколько оборотов а вторичка обычная,
медной шиной, т.е. проводом, с учетом получения напряжения 380-400В.
На первичку подавался постоянный ток от выпрямителя через автомобильный прерыватель(трамблер),
при этом при резких импульсов с медной ленты происходил сброс загадочного вещества,
типа газа или жидкости, можно руками было почувствовать,
сильно кололо ладони, если поднести к обмотке.
Между собой они его называли зеленым или синем пламенем, огнем.
А с вторичной обмотки снималась при этом бешеная мощность,
что с лихвой хватало для питания 4 токарных станков.
Вскоре об этом узнало руководство предприятия,
ребята получили выговор, трансформатор пришлось демонтировать срочно,
многих лишили премии, как-будто за занятия в рабочее время,
темами не относящимися к самой работе.
Грозили увольнением.
Было это в далеком 1972 году.
Потом я вышла в Ярославле, а вот никаких контактов дяди Коли не взяла,
даже не спросила ни фамилию, ни что за предприятие, где он работал, постеснялась короче...

Нечто подобное и здесь получилось ребят... видимо в цехе были остатки сварочных газов, внутри аккума видимо искрящий разрыв... он так удачно встал что образовался магнитный коридор атомарного водорода... белое вещество это то с чем столкнулся атомарный водород в воздухе...

PS...... Протон это наш СЕ-брат его можно разогнать в магнитном поле ничего на это не потратив...
Инструмент для снятия мощности.....
Принципиальная схема Водородного топливного элемента... разгонное магнитное поле в районе условного электролита... Наличие электролита удается обойти..используя....Механизм Гротгуса

Остается конечно вопрос снимать следует непосредственно с цепи топливного элемента (например перед земляным проводом).?.. или разогнанный протонный поток по пути поработает еще и над дополнительно обмоткой съема определенно с ориентированной .....

#### verpies

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20186 on: November 13, 2013, 03:26:27 PM »
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#### Alik

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20187 on: November 13, 2013, 03:45:12 PM »
The principle of mechanical installation

#### Zeitmaschine

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20188 on: November 13, 2013, 03:52:05 PM »
That is different because in that case we have a time a time varying magnetic field that does work by pushing the charges away.
In your pot/cage system, the work was supposed to be done by the attraction of separated opposite charges coming together.
Then I would urgently appreciate answers to the following questions:

a) Has the Earth an electric field?
b) If yes, does this field contain energy?
c) If yes, can this field still exist within a Faraday cage?
d) If no, then can the energy of that field perhaps be found in the walls of the Faraday cage?
e) If no, where did the energy go in order to not to violate the law of conservation of energy?

These are rather simple questions, I think.

#### verpies

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##### Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20189 on: November 13, 2013, 04:26:32 PM »
COMPLETE FOR TODAY's "SCIENCE" THE CORRECT WORD "IGNORANCE" IS OUT OF GOOD HEALTHY LOGIC AND MIND - HER MAIN GOAL TODAY IS COMPLETE ABSURD !!
IN NATURE DOES NOT EXIST NOR POSITIVE CHARGES NOR NEGATIVE !! EVERYTHING IS MUCH MUCH SIMPLER AND IN SAME TIME ABSOLUTELY GENIOUS !! THANKS MOTHER NATURE !!
This is not far from the truth as I see it.
The mechanics is lost to virtual particles and intrinsic spins and we have too many fundamental axiomatic units.
- kilogram
- meter
- second
- coulomb
etc...