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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13261682 times)

Offline Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20145 on: November 12, 2013, 03:11:52 AM »
IMO the old Aether concept as a fluid that fills space has failed.
I came to the SAME conclusion too! Nevertheless...

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Yes, there are but they are not equivalent to 19th century Aether concept.
Indeed! BUT they keep the idea that EM waves could be propagations of changes of energetical potential with specific caracteristics which make RF or light and so on.


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We need to be careful with the word "Aether" because there is not a universally agreed-on set of Aether's properties.
Very agree with you!

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It's much better to explicitly define its properties and verify them with the empirical reality, rather than argue about the word itself.
That what Maurice Allais have done by checking the Miller's experiment and the checking of the Lorentz's symetry: all what said "Einstein's theories" explain looks been explained with the concept of a substrat of infinitesimal step to step changes of energetic potentials. In this page you will find (but you probably know :) ) a extention of the Standard Model doing so, explaining indirectly the Allais's anomalus gravitational effect when eclips occur that contradict Lorentz symetry and so Einstein's vacuum emptyness theory.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-Model_Extension

But of course, the point of view I defend is in an opposition with near only corpuscular point of view for the light. If light is seen as a pack of waves ("waves" => parterns of changes in the susbrat), it makes more sens having of course this substrat. If only corpuscular, so we reasonning with particles through an empty space, that I well understand. But about me, I just bent on the pure waves of changes of potentials (exitations) in a substract. Then, PARTICLES are CONCENTRATED REPETITIVE CLOSED PARTERNS OF CHANGES IN A LOCAL AERA AROUND AN AVERAGE POINT, THE CENTER OF GRAVITY OF THE SAID PARTICULE. Then MATTER is only an CONCATENATION OF PARTICLES WHERE FLOWS OF "ENERGY" (UNCLOSED PARTERNS OF CHANGES GOING TO A POINT OF THE SUBSTRAT TO AN OTHER) GLUE THE WHOLE THING.

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Dirac is a famous guy but he does not have the respect of my mind.
May I know why?


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As a counterpoise I will quote Mathis:That's sound thinking, but you are assuming that waves in vacuum/space or Aether are needed to explain light, photons, or RF EM.
No! I know other models can and are used with much effectiveness! But it doesn't mean that we can not do better with the "substantial" viewpoint I have chosen to follow.


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You appear to be still stuck in the infantile paradigm that we are like fish stuck in a 3D aquarium (space) and clocked by an ever advancing 1D river of time. 
The ONLY infantile is The One who treat others of infantile and can not accept others to have others point of view! I am very sad to see you could have gone so low! :(

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If I thought that, light propagating through an empty space (nothingness) would also be a preposterous idea to me.
I can understand and accept this idea, especially if you see photons as pure particles, but interferometers show since long they are not pure solid particuless but have waves aspects in their inner structure; so the question is: "Waves of what?", "Changes of what?" in the space if the space has nothing inside?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20146 on: November 12, 2013, 03:20:05 AM »
Radiant energy produces negative resistance, under certain conditions.


This info from Verpies actually has helped me a lot.
Nice one Verpies.


You can find out about negative resistance here:
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/electromagnetic.pdf

Very good PDF.  ;) ;D   Thanks  Aking

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20147 on: November 12, 2013, 03:20:15 AM »
Radiant energy produces negative resistance, under certain conditions.


This info from Verpies actually has helped me a lot.
Nice one Verpies.


You can find out about negative resistance here:
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/electromagnetic.pdf
Thanks for the document a.king22, but I know this paper from Ton Bearden and it doesn't convinced me at all and never seen anybody anywhere replicating any clain he made, so for me I don't realy care of what he said. Odd enough for his simple ideas couldn't be replicated! Or even him to show a real working device (is said so simple and efficient).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20148 on: November 12, 2013, 03:34:54 AM »
The most interesting part comes at 37:10. A charge placed within a Faraday cage charges the inside surface with the opposite sign to the outside surface. Thus shouldn't there be an electric current flowing if a wire connects the inside with the outside? And what if the charge inside the cage is the Earth's electric field previously caught in that cage?

This concept could be either right or wrong, there is not much between ... :)
Very interesting that you remember us that caracteristic of spheric envelop.

My questions are:

- Is the quantity of charges, in Coulombs, on the inside of the sphere can exdeed the value of the charge at the center?

- Is the product charge times potential of these charges would be equal or not? (Difference of energy) Cause if not and energy sphere exceed the center energy would mean an energetical amplification system... Wouldn't be?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20150 on: November 12, 2013, 04:08:59 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGJnG-00Gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y
Be good to get some details; like what is the core from?  (where can I get a replica)
I tried this, using iron rebar tie as the core, and got no anomolyous activity....  maybe the magnet is too strong?  Maybe it needs to be biased that way?


http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm


http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megv2.htm

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20151 on: November 12, 2013, 04:22:53 AM »
No! I know other models can and are used with much effectiveness! But it doesn't mean that we can not do better with the "substantial" viewpoint I have chosen to follow.
...I am very sad to see you could have gone so low!
I know I should respect another viewpoint, but it is very hard for me when I see the underlying conceptual error in plain sight.  It is like seeing some child struggle with that 9-dot puzzle that needs to be connected with 4 lines and seeing the error he makes over and over, knowing that he will never solve that puzzle that way.  It would be very hard to be respectful towards such error and treat it as "another point of view".  My dilemma is similar.

The ONLY infantile is The One who treat others of infantile and can not accept others to have others point of view!
I am very sad to see you could have gone so low! :(
Well deserved.  I apologize if I offended you with the phrase "infantile paradigm". Perhaps I should have used the words like: simplistic, routine, common, fashionable, trendy, ubiquitous, etc...  I meant no malice - it's just that I had this discussion so many times that I am getting exasperated with repetition.  You're just an unlucky guy that came as last to that discussion...

Please distinguish a discussion about a different point of view from a discussion about a conceptual error that is well known to one party.  I've been there, done that 23 years ago when I was that proverbial pup trying to solve that 9-dot puzzle.

I can understand and accept this idea, especially if you see photons as pure particles,
I don't see them as particles nor waves and I don't see them as traveling through space nor Aether but I understand how they can appear to do so.

"Waves of what?"
There is no answer to this, because in this question you falsely assume waves.

"Changes of what?" in the space if the space has nothing inside?
There are no such changes in space as you are asking for. This question indicates to me, that you did not take my comment to heart and you are still stuck in that bleeping 3D/1D paradigm (s3/t1).
Space as you know it is just an emergent 3D geometric reference system created by motion of gravitating observers through projective geometry
As a reference system space cannot be curved or distorted or have waves in it.  Yes, Einstein would turn in his grave if he could read that...

Do you really want to discuss such stuff on OU forum?
Most people here will not understand it anyway and soon start objecting to too much abstraction and too little engineering....and they probably would be correct.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20152 on: November 12, 2013, 09:55:08 AM »

 @Сергей В. I suppose after watching the UDT transformer doubters will still ask where does the energy come from? So all we need to do is scale up from this. The core is just a chopped up iron transformer core, small angle grinder with a 1mm thin blade will cut any shape out of an old MOT transformer in minutes, so cheap to make. Lets go!Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20153 on: November 12, 2013, 10:07:27 AM »
The same UDT transformer but this time from Russian replicator. It was 16 June.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17QMaJ8GRm0

Complete schematic and coils data i have gave couple a months before !! And who was replicated here ??

Several working schematics from Tiger2007 checked and verified i have posted here and who was replicated ??

NOBODY and NO ONE !! Why ?? Simple nobody need Free Energy !!

Only neverending stories and flood.  !!  Same worth for Russian Realstrannik and American Energetic forum. Million theories without health logic and good sense like Tesla said or pissing on the lizards like Eric Dollard said !!

What should i said any more ??

Last one was Akula0083 who gave all for Free of charge. And what he get instead ?? Maximum trolling and pissing on him on every step. That is reality !! Every new Free Energy device was pissed in same day in which has appeared on forums. This is not normal for human beings to piss on all around. It's mind distortion of sick parasitic civilization.

No more comments !!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20154 on: November 12, 2013, 10:18:59 AM »
@ So all, is the Kapanadze transformer in the bedroom device just an up scaled UDT  transformer the rest is bling. The diodes do look strangely connected, and is the reason Kapanadze did not want this particular vid to go public the fact that the secret is in full veiw and in all other devices the tranformer is suddenly hidden in a box of some kind, and we are shown a strange coil setup as the main component. In the bedroom vid we have a transformer thats been tampered with, diodes, and two caps in full veiw. The start up procedure is also exactly the same on all Kapa devises small load then switch on big load. If this is not done he does a re start with his small 9volt battery, this is clear on most of his demo's. So it is possible that his secret resonator is a larger UDT transformer well out of sight. After all it does not matter which part of the circuit is OU, the start the middle or the end. Another observation moving on to Don Smith, when larger wattage bulbs were fitted at a demo his device acted similar to the UDT transformer and adjusted itself after a second or so.
Regards
Keith

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20155 on: November 12, 2013, 10:25:26 AM »
 
                              @Сергей В. Thanks for this,I have been led up the garden path by this forumn and tried for years to replicate all kinds of devises . Now seriously everyone this looks to be the right direction, so no trolls please lets just do it!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20156 on: November 12, 2013, 11:25:26 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGJnG-00Gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTowOHDeB5Y

The same UDT transformer but this time from Russian replicator. It was 16 June.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17QMaJ8GRm0

Complete schematic and coils data i have gave couple a months before !! And who was replicated here ??

Several working schematics from Tiger2007 checked and verified i have posted here and who was replicated ??

NOBODY and NO ONE !! Why ?? Simple nobody need Free Energy !!
Maybe someone replicated this stuff but it didn't work.

Question: If the above circuits are working like shown in the videos then why do the inventors not sell them (on eBay)? Simply nobody needs money? ::)


Very interesting that you remember us that caracteristic of spheric envelop.

My questions are:

- Is the quantity of charges, in Coulombs, on the inside of the sphere can exdeed the value of the charge at the center?

- Is the product charge times potential of these charges would be equal or not? (Difference of energy) Cause if not and energy sphere exceed the center energy would mean an energetical amplification system... Wouldn't be?
This is about converting an electric field (the field of the Earth) into a potential difference so this difference can be used to generate an electric current. The problem here is to construct an energy sink to create an ongoing motion in an otherwise static electric field. Could be the same concept will work with the Earth's magnetic (and gravitational) field if done the right way. Hence no energy amplification but rather an energy tapping. :D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20157 on: November 12, 2013, 11:43:50 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17QMaJ8GRm0
NOBODY and NO ONE !! Why ?? Simple nobody need Free Energy !!
FYI: The lack of identical core is a major factor for me.

For others, lack of knowledge of Russian language is a significant factor - without russian majority of people on this forum do not understand that this guy is saying that he's been running the device for two days without batteries and without understanding the words the video is unclear (overzoomed and overexposed by the light bulb).

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20158 on: November 12, 2013, 12:04:45 PM »
@ Zeit Hi, I have not tried to replicate this UDT and I am sure not many other people have either mainly due to miss direction by others. My workshop is littered with Tesla coils and transformers but as you know circuit combinations are infinitesimal. I wrote down a few circuit diagrams one weekend with only just six components I ran out of paper due to different combinations, change just the voltage for example and start over. I am hoping that Kapanadze is not an out and out liar then when he said NO ferrite in his devise, and Melnichenco was close to getting secret with his split transformer, the split core is as close as you could get just swop the gap for neo magnet and re arrange the two diodes he uses. I will be playing this weekend. PS  if I succeed I also will not be selling devices on E bay.
Regards
Keith   

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« Reply #20159 on: November 12, 2013, 12:11:33 PM »
@Verpies, the core is the simplest he tells you its iron so no problem cut up old MOT transformers with a disc cutter. When you cut up your first one it looks hard but grind off welds and they fall apart giving 2 nice coils (10-1) and a split core. Buy 1mm slitting discs readily available. I have chopped up 10 in the last month, playing with Barbosa pat.
Regards
Keith

 

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