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Offline Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20130 on: November 11, 2013, 11:07:27 PM »
  All electromagnetic as well as any non-electromagnetic fields are a result of the Aether/Vortex interactions. If there was no Aether, we could not explain the existence of matter, as all matter is dependent on it for its existence. Atoms are held together by it, material worlds are made from it. Everything that we can see, and can't see, comes from it.
 Once we get a real grasp on this unseen force, we will see that the cause of "fields" is not confined to corporeal mass. But, all mass is derived from the Aether, and vortex interactions. To tap this Aether directly, is the trick.
COULD be but: how have you seen the "unseen forces"? Is that a belief you express or a rational induction comming from observed facts? I mean, do you play faith here or science? And if you play science here and rationality, could you refer me to the facts and observations your knowledge is based upon please?

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« Reply #20131 on: November 11, 2013, 11:18:37 PM »
No, pressure differential is potential energy, not the pressure alone.

Fish don't feel the pressure because thy don't experience any pressure differentials. If they have gas bladders or other empty cavities inside their bodies that cannot resist the external pressure, then pressure differentials are created and fish can feel them.

At least in the fish example you have water (a proven tangible thing) that is the carrier of the pressure.  In energetic devices, you don't have any such medium, unless you postulate an ephemeral and unmeasurable Aether - a concept that has been tried and failed.

Electric charge (just like water) by itself, is not energy, either - just look at the units W=½QV
Likewise, water (and analogous media) is not energy unless you can decompose it to cause a pressure differential.

For example, you could make water electrolysis on the bottom of an ocean.  The bubbles of oxygen and hydrogen would rise to the surface performing useful mechanical work. Finally you could burn the hydrogen and oxygen at the surface in a flame or fuel cell and recover even more energy.
Maybe you could even get more energy that way than you had put into the electrolysis at the ocean's floor ;)
Not sure dear Verpies that the eather concept has failed, there are coherent complete theories in physics equivalent to the old eather concept, and as I have alreday noticed, Dirac himself, when speaking of his plenum were speaking a full energy "vaccum" but where the different energies (instabilities of potential differences) are all balanced, so why we call it ZERO Point Energy. And personaly, to conceive waves in an suppose "nothing suport" is just a big nosense, but it is just an opinion ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20132 on: November 11, 2013, 11:20:41 PM »
The Kapanadze earth is in both his patents.  May I suggest you study his patents, because the answer is surely there.
Answer to free energy can be found in free energy patents? That's something completely new to me. ::)

Maybe you will like this guy's answers to these questions or maybe you will find your own
Would surely like it more if this guy had the answer to free energy. But maybe I missed it between the lines. :(

»Everyone knows that it is because once you admit that the E/M field is composed of radiation, you have to explain why the proton and electron aren’t diminished by this radiation. We can create the sub-particle called the quark with no guilt or sin, since it doesn’t immediately threaten to undermine the conservation of energy. But if the electrical field is composed of radiation, and if this radiation has mass, why doesn’t the proton lose mass in radiating it? It is simply to avoid this question that the great mess of the electrical field has been left to sit. Physicists prefer a big mess and a big cover-up to an honest question. «

Oh,  I forgot. In one discussion Kapanadze said that the earth can be replaced by a circuit.
When pressed further  he said it could be replaced by the negative terminal of a car battery.
Stepanov replaced it by the positive terminal of a car battery. Maybe the polarization does not matter. ???

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20132 on: November 11, 2013, 11:20:41 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20133 on: November 11, 2013, 11:24:54 PM »
but they do, because sound creates pressure differentials. Acoustic waves do not propagate with infinite speed and the sound pressure does not increase equally in all locations simultaneously.
That's just wrong - HHO will not rebond into water under that pressure. As the water solution becomes saturated with gases, it will become incapable of holding any more gases and bubbles will form, albeit small ones.
Any gases dissolved in the liquid will outgas out of the solution as the pressure falls closer to the surface, giving the appearance of gas coming out of water, thus the outgassing process makes the solution totally reversible.
BTW: The efficiency of electrolysis (mol/J) increases with pressure. 
Also, water electrolysis can actually be endothermic at certain voltages. See here and  here.
Lol! I am again impressed by your exact knowledge! Dear Verpies. You just blow my mind each time :D and mind how you know all these details (while here it was not pure electronic stuff). Thanks! :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20134 on: November 12, 2013, 12:09:47 AM »
Don Smith wave form.
Does anyone know where this information came from or what the theory is?

directly from the master :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx39hwTGphY#t=124

someone said, Don Smith is the real deal  :)


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20135 on: November 12, 2013, 01:20:31 AM »
I have been searching for the answer to this for years.
It represents three types of LRC tank circuit wave forms (As opposed to RLC)
Don Smith said the last one is what you need to find in order to get OU.
Does anyone know where this information came from or what the theory is?   Maybe Verpies??
It is from the part of physics called lumped Circuit Theory.
In the nomenclature that I know RLC is no different from LRC and LCR circuit.
The different waveforms are cause by a different Damping Factor (also called alpha sometimes).
The third waveform will appear if the R in LRC is negative.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20136 on: November 12, 2013, 01:27:35 AM »
Would surely like it more if this guy had the answer to free energy. But maybe I missed it between the lines. :(
»Everyone knows that it is because once you admit that the E/M field is composed of radiation, you have to explain why the proton and electron aren’t diminished by this radiation. We can create the sub-particle called the quark with no guilt or sin, since it doesn’t immediately threaten to undermine the conservation of energy. But if the electrical field is composed of radiation, and if this radiation has mass, why doesn’t the proton lose mass in radiating it? It is simply to avoid this question that the great mess of the electrical field has been left to sit. Physicists prefer a big mess and a big cover-up to an honest question. «
I agree with Mathis about a lot of stuff, including much of his mainstream science bashing, but not with everything.
Free Energy is not his focus but an in-depth understanding of the "wheelwork of the universe'.

Incidentally there are concepts "between the lines' of his many articles that can help our cause, but you will have to find them yourself ;)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20137 on: November 12, 2013, 01:38:17 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s


just for your entertainment


this is B.S.
but you guys need to have sometime something that is  just ,simply light and laughable to relax :)




Wesley

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Hahah Did  Laugh hard at the part he shorted the wires at that circuit  ;D.
Yes sometimes ppl need something funny or good kind of crazy aside to relaxing and laugh about, something to break the ice.
;)
Looks like something that could work but not sure.
Btw, thank you for uploading your recent translations on youtube. Nice work man. Soon enough i'll be able to upload some new material too and share it all, with Schematics.

Cheerz~

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20138 on: November 12, 2013, 01:41:58 AM »
All electromagnetic as well as any non-electromagnetic fields are a result of the Aether/Vortex interactions. If there was no Aether, we could not explain the existence of matter, as all matter is dependent on it for its existence.
Yes, we could. I know at least three coherent theories that do that.
I'm growing tired of having to repeatedly demonstrate that the old Aether concept is an infantile idea and makes no sense. I've been through it on this forum so many times, I lost count.  Being aware what is actually being confused for it, makes it even worse.

But here we go again: Are there any takers that are willing to define Aether and its properties to me without falling in conflict with empirical observations?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20139 on: November 12, 2013, 01:51:44 AM »
It is from the part of physics called lumped Circuit Theory.
In the nomenclature that I know RLC is no different from LRC and LCR circuit.
The different waveforms are cause by a different Damping Factor (also called alpha sometimes).
The third waveform will appear if the R in LRC is negative.
Thanks for these data! So, how can we get "negative resistance", if not indeed an active dipole? :/

I someone knows how Don Could do that?

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« Reply #20140 on: November 12, 2013, 01:57:24 AM »
But here we go again: Are there any takers that are willing to define Aether and its properties to me without falling in conflict with empirical observations?
See Dirac plenum theory and others I will try to find back, but for me, still EM waves without any substract (what ever we call it: "ZEP", eather, "plenum", etc.), makes much more sense than "waves of nothing" ("vacuum").

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20141 on: November 12, 2013, 02:04:54 AM »
Not sure dear Verpies that the Aether concept has failed,
IMO the old Aether concept as a fluid that fills space has failed.

there are coherent complete theories in physics equivalent to the old Aether concept, and as I have already noticed,
Yes, there are but they are not equivalent to 19th century Aether concept.
We need to be careful with the word "Aether" because there is not a universally agreed-on set of Aether's properties.
It's much better to explicitly define its properties and verify them with the empirical reality, rather than argue about the word itself.

Dirac himself, when speaking of his plenum were speaking a full energy "vaccum" but where the different energies (instabilities of potential differences) are all balanced, so why we call it ZERO Point Energy.
Dirac is a famous guy but he does not have the respect of my mind.  As a counterpoise I will quote Mathis:
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A vacuum is supposed to have no parameters and no qualities, by definition. If we are going to give the vacuum qualities, we might as well flip our terminology and start calling the vacuum matter and matter the vacuum. Matter is supposed to be something and the vacuum is supposed to be nothing. But it is now the fashion for both the Standard Model and new theories to assign characteristics to the vacuum instead of to matter. This is nothing short of perverse.
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Free space is free space. It is space, and it is free. It it were permeable or permittive, it would be neither. Only when you refuse to assign parameters to other factors does free space begin to take on characteristics. Only when you refuse to make sense about matter, does your space also refuse to make sense.

And personally, to conceive waves in an supposed "nothing support" is just a big nonsense, but it is just an opinion ;)
That's sound thinking, but you are tacitly assuming that waves in vacuum/space or Aether are needed to explain light, photons, or RF EM.

You appear to be still stuck in the infantile paradigm that we are like fish stuck in a 3D aquarium (space) and clocked by an ever advancing 1D river of time. 
If I thought that, light propagating through an empty space (nothingness) would also be a preposterous idea to me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20142 on: November 12, 2013, 02:33:59 AM »
Thanks for these data! So, how can we get "negative resistance", if not indeed an active dipole? :/

I someone knows how Don Could do that?
Radiant energy produces negative resistance, under certain conditions.


This info from Verpies actually has helped me a lot.
Nice one Verpies.


You can find out about negative resistance here:
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/electromagnetic.pdf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20143 on: November 12, 2013, 03:10:05 AM »
I agree with Mathis about a lot of stuff, including much of his mainstream science bashing, but not with everything.
Free Energy is not his focus but an in-depth understanding of the "wheelwork of the universe'.

Incidentally there are concepts "between the lines' of his many articles that can help our cause, but you will have to find them yourself ;)

The most interesting part comes at 37:10. A charge placed within a Faraday cage charges the inside surface with the opposite sign to the outside surface. Thus shouldn't there be an electric current flowing if a wire connects the inside with the outside? And what if the charge inside the cage is the Earth's electric field previously caught in that cage?

This concept could be either right or wrong, there is not much between ... :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #20144 on: November 12, 2013, 03:11:52 AM »
IMO the old Aether concept as a fluid that fills space has failed.
I came to the SAME conclusion too! Nevertheless...

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Yes, there are but they are not equivalent to 19th century Aether concept.
Indeed! BUT they keep the idea that EM waves could be propagations of changes of energetical potential with specific caracteristics which make RF or light and so on.


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We need to be careful with the word "Aether" because there is not a universally agreed-on set of Aether's properties.
Very agree with you!

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It's much better to explicitly define its properties and verify them with the empirical reality, rather than argue about the word itself.
That what Maurice Allais have done by checking the Miller's experiment and the checking of the Lorentz's symetry: all what said "Einstein's theories" explain looks been explained with the concept of a substrat of infinitesimal step to step changes of energetic potentials. In this page you will find (but you probably know :) ) a extention of the Standard Model doing so, explaining indirectly the Allais's anomalus gravitational effect when eclips occur that contradict Lorentz symetry and so Einstein's vacuum emptyness theory.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-Model_Extension

But of course, the point of view I defend is in an opposition with near only corpuscular point of view for the light. If light is seen as a pack of waves ("waves" => parterns of changes in the susbrat), it makes more sens having of course this substrat. If only corpuscular, so we reasonning with particles through an empty space, that I well understand. But about me, I just bent on the pure waves of changes of potentials (exitations) in a substract. Then, PARTICLES are CONCENTRATED REPETITIVE CLOSED PARTERNS OF CHANGES IN A LOCAL AERA AROUND AN AVERAGE POINT, THE CENTER OF GRAVITY OF THE SAID PARTICULE. Then MATTER is only an CONCATENATION OF PARTICLES WHERE FLOWS OF "ENERGY" (UNCLOSED PARTERNS OF CHANGES GOING TO A POINT OF THE SUBSTRAT TO AN OTHER) GLUE THE WHOLE THING.

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Dirac is a famous guy but he does not have the respect of my mind.
May I know why?


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As a counterpoise I will quote Mathis:That's sound thinking, but you are assuming that waves in vacuum/space or Aether are needed to explain light, photons, or RF EM.
No! I know other models can and are used with much effectiveness! But it doesn't mean that we can not do better with the "substantial" viewpoint I have chosen to follow.


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You appear to be still stuck in the infantile paradigm that we are like fish stuck in a 3D aquarium (space) and clocked by an ever advancing 1D river of time. 
The ONLY infantile is The One who treat others of infantile and can not accept others to have others point of view! I am very sad to see you could have gone so low! :(

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If I thought that, light propagating through an empty space (nothingness) would also be a preposterous idea to me.
I can understand and accept this idea, especially if you see photons as pure particles, but interferometers show since long they are not pure solid particuless but have waves aspects in their inner structure; so the question is: "Waves of what?", "Changes of what?" in the space if the space has nothing inside?

 

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