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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 15116405 times)

Offline Grumage

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16950 on: April 15, 2013, 10:20:11 PM »
ebay sell programmable DDS signal generators for about $20. They work from Hz to about 8 Mhz.   If you buffer this with a single stage RF tranny then drive into Push Push IRF540's  using wideband baluns you should be able to pick the 2nd or 3rd  harmonic as 16 Mhz or 24 Mhz which is about the top end of driving cheap IRF's fets.


At low end < 10 Mhz it will push up to 40 watts using 24v supply on a pair of fets. Current will be around 3 amps.  Over 20 Mhz might squeeze 8-10 watts out.   For higher frequencies and more power the cost is going to run in to hundreds of dollars for a better solution.  If you strike lucky you might find some NMR experiments in these low frequency range. Whatever it is certainly going to be better than a cheap bench signal generator going to 1 Mhz with 1mW signal o/p.  Nothing going to happen at low power levels.
Dear Bolt,

Many thanks for your input, would you be able to "Draw up" your circuit for me? I really think we should be able to see NMR in the 100's of Khz by tailoring the field strength. But at the moment I just can't apply enough power to the "Resonance coil"

Cheers Grum.

BTW. Did you mean Push Pull? I Googled push push, nothing turned up!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16951 on: April 15, 2013, 10:23:20 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16952 on: April 15, 2013, 10:28:34 PM »
P = A2/(6.28*f*L)
So,   8 times 0.707 equals 5.657, squared 32, divided by 40 equals 0.8. Divided by 1099000 equals 0.07 micro henry, well near enough?
Are you sure about your value of A(RMS) = (8V*0.707=5.657V) ?   Take a look at the attachment below...
Also  0.8 / 1099000 = 0.000000728 and that means 728nH  (not 0.07μH)

Anyway, the reactance of a 728nH coil at @175kHz is 0.8Ω  (+ any DC resistance of the coil) and you would be hard pressed for an amplifier that can handle a load around ~1Ω.
Most of the commercial amplifiers are designed for 50Ω loads.  See here why this matters.

The relevant equation for the impedance of your coil at a given frequency is:
Z = 6.28*L*f + RDC
where, Z: AC impedance of the coil in Ohms, L: inductance in Henrys, f: frequency in Hertz, RDC: The DC resistance of the coil in Ohms

Also, the previous equation amended to account for RDC is:
L = (A2 – P*RDC) / (6.28*P*f)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2013, 01:02:45 AM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16953 on: April 15, 2013, 10:30:04 PM »
The main thing is the working device, then we can keep talking about theory and working principals, while lighting our houses, and running our cars on our homemade devices.

In the meantime we should keep deep meditating until we can see in our minds clearly what's hidden in the tin can that provides the orange cable with 24 amps AC out of the blue. 8)

Could be something simple ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16954 on: April 15, 2013, 10:39:55 PM »
In the meantime we should keep deep meditating until we can see in our minds clearly what's hidden in the tin can that provides the orange cable with 24 amps AC out of the blue. 8)

Could be something simple ...

If I see any more pics of that bloody tin can, I'll start dreaming about it!  ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16955 on: April 15, 2013, 10:48:37 PM »
Are you sure about your value of A(RMS) = (8V*0.707=5.657V) ?   Take a look at the attachment below...
Also  0.8 / 1099000 = 0.000000728 and that means 728nH  (not 0.07μH)

Anyway, the reactance of a 728nH coil at @175kHz is 0.8Ω  (+ any DC resistance of the coil) and you would be hard pressed for an amplifier that can handle a load around ~1Ω.
Most of the commercial amplifiers are designed for 50Ω loads.

The relevant equation for the impedance of your coil at a given frequency is:
Z = 6.28*L*f + RDC
where, Z: AC impedance of the coil in Ohms, L: inductance in Henrys, f: frequency in Hertz, RDC: The DC resistance of the coil in Ohms

Also, the previous equation amended to account for RDC is:
L = (A2 – P*RDC) / (6.28*P*f)

Dear Verpies,

Many thanks for your responce, and yes that should have been 14 V p/p not 8. I am using an audio amp right on it's top edge of performance. It is rated at 4 to 8 ohm impeedance.

Cheers Grum.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16956 on: April 15, 2013, 10:51:58 PM »
I saw different equation for current flowing through inductor  :o ??? Not much more complex but exponential one. Am I wrong ?
The formula with time in the exponent is for aperiodic rectangular voltage waveform applied to an inductor.  For a sinusoidal periodic waveform, the inductive reactance is X=2πLf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16957 on: April 15, 2013, 11:23:37 PM »
Many thanks for your response, and yes that should have been 14 V p/p not 8. I am using an audio amp right on it's top edge of performance. It is rated at 4 to 8 ohm impeedance.
So if your sine waveform has 14V peak-to-peak then its amplitude +AMAX = +7V and its RMS value is ARMS= 7V * 0.707 = 4.949V

Assuming that your RDC=0.2Ω and using the equation L = (ARMS2 – P*RDC) / (6.28*P*f)
the inductance of your coil should be 375nH to transfer 40W to it at 175kHz and your amplifier should be stable with a 0.4Ω load (I don't think your amp can handle that!)

To have an 8Ω impedance @ 175kHz the coil should have the inductance of 7μH.
Unfortunately at 4.949VRMS and 8Ω impedance only 3W will be transfered to the coil :(

To get 40W into an 8Ω load, the RMS value of the sinewave would have to be ARMS = 17.9V, because:
ARMS = SQRT(P*Z)
where P: the average power in Watts, Z: is the AC+DC impedance of the load in Ohms (e.g. 8Ω)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16958 on: April 15, 2013, 11:43:31 PM »
So if your sine waveform has 14V peak-to-peak then its amplitude +AMAX = +7V and its RMS value is ARMS= 7V * 0.707 = 4.949V

Assuming that your RDC=0.2Ω and using the equation L = (ARMS2 – P*RDC) / (6.28*P*f)
the inductance of your coil should be 375nH to transfer 40W to it at 175kHz and your amplifier should be stable with a 0.4Ω load (I don't think your amp can handle that!)

To have an 8Ω impedance @ 175kHz the coil should have the inductance of 7μH.
Unfortunately at 4.949VRMS and 8Ω impedance only 3W will be transfered to the coil :(

Cheers Verpies,

I think I need some "Dilithium crystals"!! That should do the trick :)

MORE POWER

Cheers Grum.

@ Zeitmaschine,

Good to see you back, I think you should have mirrored the second pics, they would look really cool ;D

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16959 on: April 15, 2013, 11:49:35 PM »
I think I need some "Dilithium crystals"!! That should do the trick :)
Yeah, Scotty, now you have only ~5VRMS at the output of your amplifier and you should have ~18VRMS in order to push 40W into an 8Ω load.

ARMS = SQRT(P*Z)
where P is the average power in Watts and Z is the DC+AC impedance of the load in Ohms (e.g. 8Ω)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2013, 02:06:28 AM by verpies »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16960 on: April 16, 2013, 12:32:56 AM »
 Zeitmaschine
In the 2004 video the output current of the can is fed thru the coils,the spark induces signals into
ac that comes from the can ,creating,a false ground current ,a failure to read the ac voltage this  is shown in the green box video.The cheap clampmeter I have is the same as that in the video only made under a different brand.
This is done to fake out people and make them believe its a tesla invention.
A piece of advice,go back to the aquarium 2 video,resolve the  problem of how a transformer
can not pass a high current
yet does and you will have your answer.Only in this video does TK show the active component,
a bridge that can not be crossed.Only in this video is the active component not hidden.
Remember your going to get a lot of crap on this because under known theory the transformer can not source 10 amps,unless its faked in some way.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16961 on: April 16, 2013, 09:02:56 AM »
Zeitmaschine
In the 2004 video the output current of the can is fed thru the coils,the spark induces signals into
ac that comes from the can ,creating,a false ground current ,a failure to read the ac voltage this  is shown in the green box video.The cheap clampmeter I have is the same as that in the video only made under a different brand.
This is done to fake out people and make them believe its a tesla invention.
A piece of advice,go back to the aquarium 2 video,resolve the  problem of how a transformer
can not pass a high current
yet does and you will have your answer.Only in this video does TK show the active component,
a bridge that can not be crossed.Only in this video is the active component not hidden.
Remember your going to get a lot of crap on this because under known theory the transformer can not source 10 amps,unless its faked in some way.

With respect, could you please re-write your post so it makes technical sense.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16962 on: April 16, 2013, 11:56:59 AM »
How do I translate? write here what he is saying? I'll try my best, word by word.
From the beginning he is complaining about the government/bureaucracy. He was expected some other people to come but they did not come.
Starting about the device 07:00 minute. Note:The green inverter you see is made in Armenia, it is the inverter and the charger for the 12 volt battery. Using that device you get from 12 volt DC 220 volt Ac 400 watts.
TK - this car battery is almost died, it does not hold charge, so he is saying that if the car battery is fine he would not need charger.
Guest "X" who came for the demo is saying that he does not want it to be switched on, he is asking to explain how the device work.
Tk - saying that firstly when it starts working, primary coil gets power through spark gap.
TK - saying that in the spark gap interruption happens 50 times in one seconds. He is saying that in the spark gap is 50 Hz
TK - saying that the thick wire is the primary coil. He is saying that the most interesting thing is that the spark gap takes very little power. Then he is pointing finger on the inverter saying this is 400 watts inverter, but we are receiving 5 kilowatts from my device. 400 watts not fully needed. we are taking about 0.4 amp which is 40 milliamp, getting 5 kilowatts. I simply started charging battery from the output energy, today scientists colling this perpetuum mobile, when from the output energy battery gets charged and the device is feds itself. I did the test, output for charging the battery I disconnected from the battery and it worked from its own output power. The device works, gives 5 kWatts and just takes from the output what ever it takes 0.4 amp. So, this is the very positive result of this device. takes less and gives much more.  Now I do not know its max power output, it might give 6,7 8, kilowatts but at the moment I do not want to risk to burn anything, basically 5 kilowatts are enough. It needs about 0.4 amp 220 volts and gives about 24 amp 220 volts. This is the secret(not really the exact word, but is very similar) of this device.
X - is asking, why did not you try in the vacuum when tested in the factory like everything in one box
TK - It was not convenient to put all together, because we where testing the device in the factory (the factory he mentioned is in Tbilisi, this factory used to produce war planes, I think tanks etc during soviet union and later too, I think it had wide profile and I think until now it is called 31st factory). If there was some details to replace or upgrade was not convenient to have everything in one box. We put all mechanism on the vacuum, the mechanical mechanism was turning very well in the vacuum but then the electric device was getting hot. During the test some managers made me angry and I left the factory and started working on this device to improve it, I did not expect but here we are, as you see the result exceeded my expectation. He is saying the that mechanical device was giving 3-4 times more power/torque than without vacuum.
TK - This is better just this device, god let us all have it, if anyone wants to use it, it is here. He is again about the government - I do not understand what they want, I am offering such things that any normal thinking man wont say not interested.
TK - pointed to the man saying we tried in his garden just with one kilowatt generator, whole garden was bright and we let running long time without problem, someone called Mamuka came, he is physicist, I(TK) asked him can you explain you as a physicist all these, Mamuka answered that he is not sure, he does not know, this is not something I can explain by simple physics.
These what I see exceeds law of Physics. This is something retailed to some kind of nature I can not explain now, I do not know. This is impossible, I do not believe, there is something I do not know what?.
TK - Why? here it is. why is it not possible? when was these laws established? in which century? 18th century? He is asking to explain by physics laws, If I brake any law of physic's when you see her this device why does it work? I am not braking any of laws of physic's in this case leave me and trust in what you see and try to understand.
Mamuka - what can we do, this is not by the law of physics.
TK - in this case update it.
Mamuka - No you are crazy.
TK - here is the experiment I conducted for you, and did it many times, in many places.
Mamuka - If you can, explain it if not we can not recognize it.
They are discussing different physicists reactions which happened in different times.
Some othe physic said to TK, we understand there is unlimited energy in the cosmos, but what it has to do here, what is it, is nothing emptiness?
TK - where is our earth? is not it in cosmos? Are not we part of the sun system? don make me mad? One came and told me who are you to ignore the power of gravity?
TK - When did I say? who did I tell that? where is it written? show me, I have never said that. He repeated the same question, I asked him did you read the theory of (some kind of polarity do not know its translation, sorry). The man got red on his face and did not say the word and left me. One big physic came to me and told me, lets write a theory, I'll be your co author.
TK - is asking camera man to get closer to the device, as a source of power i use car battery. Battery powers inverter, from the inverter the device starts working. Let see, and he turns the inverter on. Battery is died, has maybe 11-10 volts, but one little kick will do, he plugs the inverter into mains and said the sparks started.
Persona X - Will this spark stay if you unplug?
TK - yes, I unplugged just now and it works from the battery. Switch it on (he means bulbs, each is 1 kilowatts, has 5x200 watts spiral in it. He ask to measure the input amp and output amp. it takes 00.4 amp and gives 25,4 amps.
TK - lets do the experiment. lets plug the battery charger on the device output power. Do the way everyone can see. This is 0-negative the other one is positive. Now I will plug the charger to the battery to charge. I am conducting the test, the battery anyway is giving the start up energy, but later after whenever it will be discharged if not charged. we try to charge the battery from the energy we get out of device. the battery does not have enough power let me for a second plug to the mains. Ok, now the spark started, unplugged and works. measure it now. What we use and what it gives. 0.2 amp 0.3 amp. How much takes battery charger, let me see, 2.8 amp, 2.7 amp, 2.6 amp. How much is from the charger to the battery 6.5, 6.2
Next let do like this, if can charge the battery from the received energy, the battery supply inverter so that is how it works. untill the battery lasts without the charger the device will work. now we are charging battery and I am going to remove the battery. I removed the battery, but now we need the start up energy. that is why I am going to use mains just for start up. as soon as I get energy from the device we do not need the mains power anymore. look now I am unplugging, see we are not getting any power from anywhere other than from the device which feds itself. I could remove the inverter and charger and just will need a start up energy sours. That I will do later. the bulbs are very bright and keeps as long as you want.
X - Can you start up one more time?
TK - Yes, will do. so that's it. OK now you want me to unplug the device from the inverter and see how long it will last on its own, let see what happens. last may be a second or two.
X - saying, it lasted for some time, might just need some technical improvement and cold be working on its own.
XX- the fuck is here, It is working, I can not deny the fact. I have nothing to argue. many things can be argued, but here is no theory.
TK - we may argue about the theory I have and write you could argue some things can be improved father, we may discuss the better scheme, but this is what I have now and is fact. Something should happen, they are just joking about something irrelevant.
X - so we had exclusive for video.
TK - No, I need video to be done for the Internet, so many people can see. Please, would take a video of the scheme/device properly come closer please.
Camera man - yes will do one by one.
TK - let me give a space - please do what you need.

I did my best took me over 1 hour.
Thank you and hope this helps. Try to do not judge me. English is not my first language. It is my fourth.
It seems to me not to be too complicated. I am not in Georgia, have been in UK for few years now. When I get there this Christmas, I'll try to find out about Tariel and his devices as much as possible.  :)



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16963 on: April 16, 2013, 01:35:48 PM »
»TK - This is better just this device, god let us all have it, if anyone wants to use it, it is here.«

There is a slight but persistent annoyance with that statement, I think. >:(

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16964 on: April 16, 2013, 01:50:10 PM »
»TK - This is better just this device, god let us all have it, if anyone wants to use it, it is here.«

There is a slight but persistent annoyance with that statement, I think. >:(

And this one: -
XX- the fuck is here, It is working, I can not deny the fact. :(