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NickZ

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16860 on: April 12, 2013, 01:29:22 AM »
  @ NoBull:
 
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What medium? Do you mean the 19th century Aether ?
If "yes" - What are the properties of this medium and experimental evidence for its existence and measurement of its properties?
                                                                     End quote.

   That's where you lost me. 
   I guess that Tesla must have been wrong, also.
   Or things have changed, in this century.

  Earlier we were discussing the possibility of obtaining free energy from the ambient. Now it's beta decay???
 
   The yoke device was said to produce 1kw, but only shows lighting a 150 watt bulb, possibly less than normal brightness. Not 1 kw, why?  What were the negative health results?  I've experienced none.  At least that I can mention.  If that device actually produces a health hazard, shouldn't we All be aware of that?  It could not be replicated, because of a special yoke???  Sorry but, it's a all bit odd all the way around.
Now beta decay, ok, what can actually do?

   Nick_Z

   



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« Reply #16861 on: April 12, 2013, 02:23:54 AM »
Quote
What medium? Do you mean the 19th century Aether ?
If "yes" - What are the properties of this medium and experimental evidence for its existence and measurement of its properties?
That's where you lost me. 
I guess that Tesla must have been wrong, also.
Or things have changed, in this century.
I lost your understanding or I lost you as a reader?

I don't know much about Tesla's beliefs but in the 19th century most scientists believed that space was filled with a magical substance called the Luminiferous Aether through which light and lightning propagated.  It is quite probable that he believed it, too.
Then Michelson and Morley came along and did their famous experiment to measure Earth's motion through that Aether and found no indication of it.  Others have calculated that it must possess contradictory properties such as that it must be a fluid in order to fill space, but one that was millions of times more rigid than steel in order to support the high frequencies of light waves. Aether also had to be massless and without viscosity, otherwise it would visibly affect the orbits of planets, additionally it appeared that it had to be completely transparent, non-dispersive, incompressible, and continuous at a very small scale.  Eventually the whole idea of Aether was scrapped as unnecessary. 
Read this link for a fascinating history of the Aether concept.

Earlier we were discussing the possibility of obtaining free energy from the ambient.
I never accepted that something from nothing is possible thus I never discussed obtaining free energy from the ambient.
If you think that energy from ambient or vacuum or plain nothing is more probable than energy from matter then you should make experiments that show that vacuum of space is something more than just a geometrical reference system. e.g. that it is endowed with certain properties that can be measured and eventually used to our advantage.

Personally, I think it is more probable to obtain energy from air than from vacuum.  After all, air is matter.

Now it's beta decay???
Beta decay is one of the proven methods that nuclei (a major constituent of matter) can be converted to energy.  Other methods are chemical (meaning that they only use the bonding energy between atoms).
If you know of a better process to extract energy from matter, please do tell us.

The yoke device was said to produce 1kw, but only shows lighting a 150 watt bulb, possibly less than normal brightness. Not 1 kw, why?  What were the negative health results?  I've experienced none.  At least that I can mention.  If that device actually produces a health hazard, shouldn't we All be aware of that?  It could not be replicated, because of a special yoke???  Sorry but, it's a all bit odd all the way around.
I don't know that much about the Yoke device.  All I know is that its power was never measured rigorously and that it had two modes of operation: ~100W and 1kW depending how the core was excited (HV or sth like that) and that it was notoriously hard to tune.  One detail struck me as unusual - one of the windings on the Yoke transformer was perpendicular to the other windings.  That doesn't happen in regular transformers.
Ask Stevep, his friends were working on it and got sick and scared.

Now beta decay, ok, what can actually do?
It can produce short DC pulses of current in the kA range or high voltage DC output.  See this link for the DC mode.
In a nutshell, 1kg of brass could yield the same energy as burning 20000 liters of gasoline...in the form of electric energy (without going through the heat/pressure/mechanical) conversion.

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« Reply #16862 on: April 12, 2013, 02:40:00 AM »
  @ NoBull:
 
  Quote:
What medium? Do you mean the 19th century Aether ?
If "yes" - What are the properties of this medium and experimental evidence for its existence and measurement of its properties?
                                                                     End quote.

   That's where you lost me. 
   I guess that Tesla must have been wrong, also.
   Or things have changed, in this century.

  Earlier we were discussing the possibility of obtaining free energy from the ambient. Now it's beta decay???
 
   The yoke device was said to produce 1kw, but only shows lighting a 150 watt bulb, possibly less than normal brightness. Not 1 kw, why?  What were the negative health results?  I've experienced none.  At least that I can mention.  If that device actually produces a health hazard, shouldn't we All be aware of that?  It could not be replicated, because of a special yoke???  Sorry but, it's a all bit odd all the way around.
Now beta decay, ok, what can actually do?


   Nick_Z

 


Well understanding of event changes with time  when  angle of perception is altered by new experience.
That would explain progress in general.


In Lithuania Experiment  have seen 60, 150, 600 W
 1kw id did not see but Aidas and Arunas have seen.
In one video there  was halogen bulb I do not remember if that particular one was 600W at the time of video but I have seen 600W  for sure.


The real energy was milliW after  impedance mismatch delivered to yoke.


The side effects was what we did not know  - at now I could assign to Alpha Beta Gamma and possibly  more.
Similarity between any of possible of your experiments ( if any)is in process of  extracting energy but not with cristaline   composition of ferrite  as I remember when I was child My father  (teacher) told me Do not sit next to tv it is harmful.
We have had Rubin Topaz and some more of TV of Russian origin.
That warning was based on public experience  as real scientific evaluation was forbidden ( communism) 


All of that contributed to me being perfectly comfortable with  testing  of Colman device.
I new what to expect and I have had  proper instrumentation to see it at this time.
When I got to  Army  ferrite excitation and transmutation using radio waves I know that something must be in there.
That is why I try it,
But I admit that Colman was not my idea I was told by my friend scientist
nick( mysterious man from far away) that I'm the only one he knows  who can do it with all respect  to absolute truth
I got than no choice but  to not disappoint  him
I give it a try.
He brought with him all chemicals
I was not even testing the  tube but after connecting it to transceiver I found by accident that it  perform as an antenna for 70cm with acceptable  SWR.


And only than  After longer QSO I have noticed that I pin needle  to maximum.
Radiacmeter was  with probe on its cradle and  was kind of high say not to close to  tube.
I got scared that John my friend is going to be  upset that I pin his  meter.
and he did  after seeing video


That how it  begun




I see now perfect base to real  practicality.




So what I'm waiting for?
Scientifically professionally lab made compound with conductive copper and zinc.
There are few places  I have contacted  to  The cost in not important I do not pay for it :)


And plenty  of it.




Wesley


 






 




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« Reply #16863 on: April 12, 2013, 02:50:57 AM »
Wesley


You have Big Kahoona's [that's a compliment in the Bronx ='}


thank you for being so Brave and for sharing your hard work !
You inspire!!!


Tell Nick thank you Too.......


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« Reply #16864 on: April 12, 2013, 03:03:26 AM »
  @ NoBull, Wesley, and All:
   Yes, and Yes. You lost me on both counts.
   You should read up on Tesla and his findings before knocking his theories.
The Aether is more than just an unproven theory... 

   Concerning beta decay... Thanks for the information, but, what does that have to do with what Wesley is working on,  that will save the world,  revolution? etz...
 
  Looks to me that the Edison battery idea has not been replicated, or proven. In the sense of the stated 10kw output, run time, from a 15 to 30 second charge. 
Or has It???  And by who? 

   I really am interested in this effort, (Wesley's newest rave), especially after spending many, weeks, and months, of working on the "Crystal Cells" projects, only to find them nothing more than weak galvanic cells, at best.

  My concern for the health hazards of the yoke device, is no joke, as I am working on these devices daily, and have not experienced any health related problems.
  The only reason I bring it up the yoke device is because of all the 1000 + pages of posts on this thread, it was the ONLY device that could be replicated, but was not made to produce the stated output, at least by those that made the some attempt at it. Why not?
I would have liked to have actually seen it light up 1000 watts of incandescent bulbs, as was mentioned that it could.  1kw output???  As of yesterday? Wesley, come on...
   
   


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« Reply #16865 on: April 12, 2013, 03:15:29 AM »
  @ NoBull, Wesley, and All:
   Yes, and Yes. You lost me on both counts.
   You should read up on Tesla and his findings before knocking his theories.
The Aether is more than just an unproven theory... 

   Concerning beta decay... Thanks for the information, but, what does that have to do with what Wesley is working on,  that will save the world,  revolution? etz...
 
  Looks to me that the Edison battery idea has not been replicated, or proven. In the sense of the stated 10kw output, run time, from a 15 to 30 second charge. 
Or has It???  And by who? 

   I really am interested in this effort, (Wesley's newest rave), especially after spending many, weeks, and months, of working on the "Crystal Cells" projects, only to find them nothing more than weak galvanic cells, at best.

  My concern for the health hazards of the yoke device, is no joke, as I am working on these devices daily, and have not experienced any health related problems.
  The only reason I bring it up the yoke device is because of all the 1000 + pages of posts on this thread, it was the ONLY device that could be replicated, but was not made to produce the stated output, at least by those that made the some attempt at it. Why not?
I would have liked to have actually seen it light up 1000 watts of incandescent bulbs, as was mentioned that it could.  1kw output???  As of yesterday? Wesley, come on...
   
 


As I said everything is in the compound,
Edison did not know that  pencil battery of his time is capable of more than weak voltage out.
Hendershot found it  I assume by accident.
Yoke of Rubin TV must of have activating compound and that what  Lithuania experiment was for.
You my friend dealing with different cristaline  and different frequencies of  activation


http://library.open-energy.ws/files/-%20Science/Michel%20Meyer/meyer-experiments.pdf


this one uses 21MHz


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022369771900369[/font][/size]
this one 555MHz
and
300 to 470 MHz which has been identified with Mn ions (replacing iron)
that is also ferrite.

Colman  uses 300MHz
I used  around 430MHz

Everything  above  goes around and around one principal phenomenon NMR
nuclear spin  and precession



Wesley

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« Reply #16866 on: April 12, 2013, 03:41:01 AM »
Concerning beta decay... Thanks for the information, but, what does that have to do with what Wesley is working on,  that will save the world,  revolution? etz...
The unusual thing is that Wesley is detecting nuclear decay products from matter that does not decay in the normal environment.  Mainstream science claims that this is impossible, so this is an anomaly.
The nucleus contains million times more energy than the chemical bonds, so it spells a revolution in the quantity of energy extraction from matter.
Beta particles can be converted directly to electric current (they are already speeding charged electrons).

A lot of electricity from matter without moving parts is a revolution, don't you think so?


P.S.
Wesley is artificially stimulating the release of energy from the nuclei by spinning them up with RF or NMR or EF-NMR.
Also, I don't believe that Aether exists, but that makes no difference to Wesley's experimental results.

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« Reply #16867 on: April 12, 2013, 03:53:09 AM »
So what I'm waiting for?
Scientifically professionally lab made compound with conductive copper and zinc.
I predict that the well-conductive copper/zinc will not work as well as passivated copper/zinc, because of the skin-effect penalty.
Baking powdered copper/zinc in air usually adds insulating oxides to their surface - it does not remove them,  thus I expect your old home baked mixture to work better than the new one from "scientifically professional lab".

Experiment will tell...

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« Reply #16868 on: April 12, 2013, 04:22:01 AM »
  Verpies, and Wesley:
  Thank you for your responses.
   One thing that I can mention about my ferrite yoke experiments:
That after a certain amount of run time the yoke core will change frequencies, and the Cfls will light to a much brighter degree. The normal mA draw of about 500mA on 12v, will then make the transistors heat up, although the input is the same. I have not been able to correlate this effect with any other known effect generation, or can explain why this happens. It MAY be due to this ferrite transmutation process. This can happen at about 5 minutes plus running time , or longer, but not in less time. Also does not happen with most Cfl bulbs, only certain ones. 
I'm still working on this... and changing the circuit almost daily, in trying this and that...
Just thought that I would add my two cents.
 
   The fact that you or I don't agree on the Aether source, does not change anything.
It is what it is.
 Where do you think all electricity comes from, when magnets are spun around coils.   Copper ions, free electrons... I don't think so...

 


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« Reply #16869 on: April 12, 2013, 06:03:01 AM »
  Verpies, and Wesley:
  Thank you for your responses.
   One thing that I can mention about my ferrite yoke experiments:
That after a certain amount of run time the yoke core will change frequencies, and the Cfls will light to a much brighter degree. The normal mA draw of about 500mA on 12v, will then make the transistors heat up, although the input is the same. I have not been able to correlate this effect with any other known effect generation, or can explain why this happens. It MAY be due to this ferrite transmutation process. This can happen at about 5 minutes plus running time , or longer, but not in less time. Also does not happen with most Cfl bulbs, only certain ones. 
I'm still working on this... and changing the circuit almost daily, in trying this and that...
Just thought that I would add my two cents.
 
   The fact that you or I don't agree on the Aether source, does not change anything.
It is what it is.
 Where do you think all electricity comes from, when magnets are spun around coils.   Copper ions, free electrons... I don't think so...

 


I found the problem with yoke to be similar to Colman
Not enough power.
 
when I was  scanning Colman with 200mW generator  from 10 to 500MHz nothing happened
But when I gave to Colman 25 W of RF than I got activation.
I'm not really sure that my 430MHZ is the right  frequency  at all
That might be harmonic response  as well
Maybe  a lot less power is needed at fundamental frequency.
It is just that my transceiver does not  give me 300MHz but only  Ham radio 70cm band.
And that is what was  responding.


so all you need is power it is like PA in HF amplifier  there is minimum  driving force for it to  even start.






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« Reply #16870 on: April 12, 2013, 10:29:04 AM »
But when I gave to Colman 25 W of RF than I got activation.
...and after the impedance mismatch is accounted for, the RF power delivered to the Colman tube is much less than 25W.

so all you need is power it is like PA in HF amplifier
...or an impedance matching transformer.

That might be harmonic response  as well. Maybe  a lot less power is needed at fundamental frequency.
...and the frequency probably is sensitive to Earth's Magnetic Field like a compass, thus the position of the device on the workbench will affect it
(as well as rebar, electric wiring, transformers, steel objects: anvils, lathes, etc...)

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« Reply #16871 on: April 12, 2013, 10:56:28 AM »
That after a certain amount of run time the yoke core will change frequencies, and the Cfls will light to a much brighter degree.
That might be good - a sign of something unusual happening.

It MAY be due to this ferrite transmutation process. This can happen at about 5 minutes plus running time , or longer, but not in less time. Also does not happen with most Cfl bulbs, only certain ones. 
It might be the CFL bulbs or external magnetic fields or temperature. Transmutation can be confirmed with a Geiger counter or a sensitive photo film sealed in plastic only.
What frequencies are you using, anyway ?

The fact that you or I don't agree on the Aether source, does not change anything.
Yeah, for engineering purposes it does not matter much whether the source of energy is explained as transmutation or aether.

Where do you think all electricity comes from, when magnets are spun around coils.
I think that two dimensions of the 3D scalar motion of matter are partially canceled by the 2D motion of varying magnetic field, leaving one dimensional unbalanced, which constitutes electricity.
My views about about this are very unorthodox, so if you want to know more, PM me so we don't pollute this thread with theoretical stuff.

 

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« Reply #16872 on: April 12, 2013, 01:26:01 PM »
at min 16:03 the motor has a  problem.burned? for high frequency component involved in the magnification process??
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKzXTAJJsbM

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« Reply #16873 on: April 12, 2013, 06:02:52 PM »
        Verpies:
        The fact that you or I don't agree on the Aether source, does not change anything. It is what it is...
quote:
"Yeah, for engineering purposes it does not matter much whether the source of energy is explained as transmutation or aether."
     
 The statement (above), we certainly CAN agree on.

   I don't care it the power comes from the Easter Bunny, so long as it works.
   I also agree that too much time has been spent on discussing theory instead of hands-on experimenting.

  As mentioned, I've also spent some time working on making some Al/Carbon cells, which were first polarized by high voltage from oscillator circuits. Although this gave some interesting results, this initial polarization power obtained from the circuits and applied to the new cells always faded, in time. Thus the cells lost power.
This polarization principal is similar to the idea that Wesley is working on, and may also come from the same initial source, like the Edison Battery ideas.  TK also may be doing something similar, but by using low voltages, like in the use of the 9 volt battery, or through the capacitor bank, as some others have done. This "kick-start" bump may be doing the same or similar effect, that is, setting up the channels of polarization or flux lines of energy flow.
  I believe that this polarization process to be critical part of having a free energy device. As it is through a similar process that so called "SunLight" is also created on Earth. Which is not coming to us from the Sun, as it still taught in schools, but is manufactured here on Earth, instead.
I won't go into that now, to now clutter up this thread. We don't need to agree on this point, either, just keep it in mind, as it will be confirmed, in the future.

@ Wesley:  Thank you for sharing your work, ideas, and replies...
Much appreciated! 
In case that you haven't seen my current multiple oscillator ferrite yoke device, here is a picture of it, running on 12v, 500mA. Cfl is at full brightness.

  NickZ



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« Reply #16874 on: April 12, 2013, 07:22:26 PM »
If the electrons are ejected into a circular Lorentz orbit inside the core, then the core will experience a torque, by the same mechanism.  This is exactly what is seen in this video and this video

P.S.
Those brass disks in those two videos are the Gain Media in which the stimulated beta decay takes place and becomes confined.  Either the circular nuclear recoil causes the torque or Marinov bearing motor ...or hidden belts in those pillow block bearings  ;)
In the former case, with such large diameter disk cores, the stimulating frequency can be pretty low (and the evil skin-effect, too).
Also, Wesley experiments with the Yoke device and the Colman device add credibility to the stimulated decay as the modus operandi for those devices.

Dear Verpies,

Many thanks for your comments regarding NMR. I watched both Video's. I have some comments to make.

The first one on your list, in the large warehouse? I looked closely at what you term "Pillow" we in the UK call them "Plummer blocks" Which are a cast iron frame holding a standard Ball race/ bearing.
Now unless the shaft that carries the Disc's has been turned down then there would be no room at all to fit a pulley. But why "plate over" the inside of the channel section???
But my major comment is that when the load was switched off, nothing happend at all to the speed of the Rotor and Alternator assembly. After all a load is a load, surely the speed should have risen audibly? Try it with a Petrol/Diesel set!!!

@ andrea76,

My goodness aren't these videos boring??? However IMO the noise you detected on the Vid sounded rather like the Guy knocked out a phase to the motor while he was using the Clamp meter. Once a 3 phase motor has got up to speed it will run on 2 all be it not very well!!

@ Hoppy,

Love your sense of humour, please don't loose it!! Could you provide me a link to that Vid 2004?? Where you heard that sound of a transformer under duress?
I have had a very checkered career and might be able to idetify something from it.

Cheers to all Grum.