Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407488 times)

verpies

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3473
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16830 on: April 10, 2013, 09:02:31 PM »
Take a look at the Meyer-Mace patent, they were using  21 MHz!!
I know. 
That's why why Meyer had to saturate the core because without saturation at 21MHz the RF would penetrate solid iron only to the depth of 0.5μm.
skin depth = 503210 * (resistivity / (frequency * r.permeability) )0.5   , in: [ mm= 503210 * (Ωm / (Hz * μr) )0.5 ]
« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 12:48:17 AM by verpies »

Grumage

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16831 on: April 10, 2013, 09:33:24 PM »
I know. 
That's why why Meyer had to saturate the core because without saturation at 21MHz the RF would penetrate solid iron only to the depth of 5nm.
skin depth = 503210 * (resistivity / (frequency * r.permeability) )0.5   , in: [ mm= 503210 * (Ωm / (Hz * μr) )0.5 ]

Dear Verpies,

I am very sure that we all appreciate your depth of knowledge, and am pleased to have become an accepted member/contributor on this forum.

In the wake of this new spin, in your honest opinion, do you think TK's kitchen roll coil setup could work? A few weeks ago I bought some Ferrite torroid cores of a Manganese Zink compound.
So could NMR be achieved using the afore mentioned design?

Cheers Grum.

stivep

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3567
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16832 on: April 10, 2013, 09:46:50 PM »
I know. 
That's why why Meyer had to saturate the core because without saturation at 21MHz the RF would penetrate solid iron only to the depth of 5nm.
skin depth = 503210 * (resistivity / (frequency * r.permeability) )0.5   , in: [ mm= 503210 * (Ωm / (Hz * μr) )0.5 ]


21MHz is ham radio band.
Plenty of high power transceivers or  transmitters and amplifiers  are  on market (5W to 1kW) for small money.
old Drake 200W  say $200
search for
Yesu
Kenwood
Alinco
Icom


or:
Collins KWM-2A KWM2 HF Ham Amateur Radio Transceiver and Amplifier
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collins-KWM-2A-KWM2-HF-Ham-Amateur-Radio-Transceiver-and-Amplifier-/200913017398?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Transceivers&hash=item2ec7595a36


Heathkit SB-220 Ham Radio Tube Linear Amplifier 3-500 Z Tubes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heathkit-SB-220-Ham-Radio-Tube-Linear-Amplifier-3-500-Z-Tubes-/261197196568?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item3cd090ed18
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heathkit-SB-221-Hf-Ham-Amateur-Radio-Linear-Amplifier-Amp-CHEAP-SB-220-/171022016593?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item27d1b4e051


HARRIS RF-110A 1 KW POWER AMPLIFIER TRANSMITTER HAM RADIO SHORTWAVE w/4CX1500B's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARRIS-RF-110A-1-KW-POWER-AMPLIFIER-TRANSMITTER-HAM-RADIO-SHORTWAVE-w-4CX1500Bs-/330881281811?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4d0a0faf13
This linear RF power amplifier covers a frequency range of 2 to 30MHz. The amplifier covers all modes of operation SSB, AME (compatable AM) CW, ISB and FSK.


but every one does it.




Ameritron AL-80B
http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Sale-Ameritron-AL-80B-/161002692256?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item257c821ea0


Dentron 160-10L HF Linear Amplifier in working condition
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dentron-160-10L-HF-Linear-Amplifier-in-working-condition-/171018259154?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item27d17b8ad2




This one is interesting:
FT101 E YAESU COMPLETE STATION
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FT101-E-YAESU-COMPLETE-STATION-/281089747728?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item4172412b10


Do not confuse amplifier with transceiver or transmitter.
If one buys amplifier  he must make sure that driving power is small  enough for generator or transmitter connected to input



hm.......... they want only  149.97 interesting
AMERITRON LA-1000 Primo Tube Set 6LQ6 (4)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMERITRON-LA-1000-Primo-Tube-Set-6LQ6-4-/200905900890?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Amplifiers&hash=item2ec6ecc35a


Amplifier could be  build or purchased  starting from $100 to $1000
some of them up to 10KW.( more money)
Legal limit in USA 1.5kW




Wesley

Grumage

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16833 on: April 10, 2013, 10:12:57 PM »
Hello Wesley,

Many thanks for all that info.

Here in the UK we are only allowed 4 Watts...... Legally! ;)

But do we really need an RF transmitter? Can we not just build an RF oscillator? Or more lateral thinking a variable frequency HF signal generator through some sort of amplifier?

Cheers Grum.

elementSix

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 350
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16834 on: April 10, 2013, 10:44:40 PM »
Have you seen this page grumage??  they say they have a working schematic.

http://tarielkapanadze.ru/science-eng.htm

Grumage

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1113
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16835 on: April 10, 2013, 11:08:36 PM »
Cheers elementSix,

More B*****y maths!!!  :)

Unfortunately my weakest subject!!
But page saved for future reference.

Cheers Grum.

stivep

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3567
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16836 on: April 11, 2013, 12:27:13 AM »
Hello Wesley,

Many thanks for all that info.

Here in the UK we are only allowed 4 Watts...... Legally! ;)

But do we really need an RF transmitter? Can we not just build an RF oscillator? Or more lateral thinking a variable frequency HF signal generator through some sort of amplifier?

Cheers Grum.


Do not confuse Civil Band 27Hhz with ham radio !!

transmitter is generator as well
you need power and  signal generator is not giving you much. usually mW or few W
Usually signal or function or arbitrary signal generator is  more expensive  and yet
if you have one
-as long as you are able to drive input of PA ( power amplifier)
you can  use it with PA
PA are  very inexpensive with 200W range.
from Hamfest you can pick them up for few  bux.
Google for Hamfests in your area- great for all sort of cheep elements  right to your hands.The best one for anyone anywhere.
Advice:
1. NEVER BUY NEW ONE.!!
2. THERE IS NOTHING TO BLOW  IN pi filter based  TUBE PA APART FROM TUBES
3. input of PA must be as low as possible in  driving power to use  generator
if it is to high than smaller amplifier is serving as  preamp.
4. when doing experiment sometimes kWts of RF does not  bring/never bring, anyone attention you are not important to  authorities
and you not transmitting in  frequent basis.
5 to catch interferer takes money.
For years Ham Radio interferers transmit and it is hard to bring anyone of authorities attention
They Do not care,
 




For  50 dollars you can buy so much you would not believe from Hamfest.
 





legal power in UK is  hm........  I think 200W for HF 21MHZ
in here 1.5kW


Amplifier ( linear)class A ,AB does not care what you connect to it.
Amplifier has input  and output
Output can be connected  to dummy load, any load of  impedance matching around 50 ohm
or antenna 50 ohm
for purpose of experiment RF does not have to be radiated  out far.
resonance circuit of  HF amplifier  using knob  delivers signal than  in near field not far field to output resonance  circuit
for that  you need to understand that any dipole antenna when coiled up might be close to frequency of its design - only with much narrow bandwidth- usually after coiling it lowers its resonance response
but  in typical  pi filter you do not even think about it as tank capacitor is taking care for  impedance mismatch
in some instances you might need antenna tuner that is your matching network


Ten Tec 229A legal limit antenna tuners - means could handle 1.5kW from transmitter
Antenna tuners are always  between output of PA and antenna
in our application they can serve as tuning  resonance  circuit of any power at  input  of tuner.
Antenna tuners do not have any  tubes and do not amplify  anything
They are  simply  impedance matching devices
between  impedance  of  device connected to input and  device/antenna/ circuity connected to output.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ten-Tec-229A-legal-limit-antenna-tuners-/130886588621?pt=US_Radio_Comm_Tuners&hash=item1e7972d8cd




I can have any  overlimit power at home as long as I do not radiate out. :)
Owning something  is not equal with  using it to transmit.
 
Wesley


 

verpies

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3473
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16837 on: April 11, 2013, 01:40:46 AM »
In the wake of this new spin, in your honest opinion, do you think TK's kitchen roll coil setup could work? A few weeks ago I bought some Ferrite torroid cores of a Manganese Zink compound.
So could NMR be achieved using the afore mentioned design?
If it is not faked with external power feed (like Wattsup has noticed) or belts hidden in the pillow blocks (nobody has noticed that), then I would say that it's a strong probability.
I have no doubts that beta decay stimulation by RF or NMR is a reality, but I do have doubts whether beta chain reaction is possible, that is, whether one decay event can be responsible for causing more than one subsequent decay events.  I just have never seen it, but that does not mean much.

There is one thing that I have not mentioned so far.  Namely, when bunch of fast electrons become ejected from nuclei in the same direction, then those nuclei recoil in the opposite direction, because electrons possess mass.  That means that an organized mechanical force is acting on the core material!
In the natural beta decay, these fast electrons are emitted in random directions, thus the nuclei also recoil in random directions hence the net recoil sums up to zero in any particular direction and there is not net macroscopic force. 
If the electrons are ejected into a circular Lorentz orbit inside the core, then the core will experience a torque, by the same mechanism.  This is exactly what is seen in this video and this video

P.S.
Those brass disks in those two videos are the Gain Media in which the stimulated beta decay takes place and becomes confined.  Either the circular nuclear recoil causes the torque or Marinov bearing motor ...or hidden belts in those pillow block bearings  ;)
In the former case, with such large diameter disk cores, the stimulating frequency can be pretty low (and the evil skin-effect, too).
Also, Wesley experiments with the Yoke device and the Colman device add credibility to the stimulated decay as the modus operandi for those devices.

NETIKS

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16838 on: April 11, 2013, 02:21:48 AM »
Electromagnetically induced nuclear beta decay:
Nuclear beta decay induced by intense electromagnetic fields:

http://prc.aps.org/abstract/PRC/v29/i5/p1825_1

http://prc.aps.org/abstract/PRC/v27/i3/p1229_1

 ;)


verpies

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3473
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16839 on: April 11, 2013, 02:31:37 AM »
Nuclear beta decay induced by intense electromagnetic fields:
http://prc.aps.org/abstract/PRC/v27/i3/p1229_1
Good find.  The text is almost identical to this Reiss Howard patent EP0099946A1.

Note: This method uses only strong RF fields for beta decay stimulation and this methods requires kW of RF power.
The NMR or EF-NMR methods of stimulation require only Watts of power to spin-up the nuclei in the core.

Gidfactor

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 35
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16840 on: April 11, 2013, 02:37:00 AM »
Hello verpies  in the first video just when he stopped the motor for the guy to take measurements I heard a hall sensor screaming to lock the rotor in to step.

Could it be that the whole setup is motor drive driven and the pillow block down there has batteries in there if u look closely into the aluminium box you will find a red led still lit in there.

Cheers...

verpies

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3473
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16841 on: April 11, 2013, 03:00:06 AM »
Hello verpies  in the first video just when he stopped the motor for the guy to take measurements I heard a hall sensor screaming to lock the rotor in to step.
Hall sensors are noiseless.  At 6:12 I heard a little LF buzz when the rotor was stopped, wires to the rotor were disconnected and the 9V battery was connected.  The high frequency screeching is typical of a belt drive at low rpm.  It is absent after the belt is removed after 14:51.

Could it be that the whole setup is motor drive driven and the pillow block down there has batteries in there if u look closely into the aluminium box you will find a red led still lit in there.
Of course there could be belts hidden in the pillow blocks and a motor between the double channels that the base is welded with.  The only argument that I heard against that hypothesis was that belts provide so much friction that the rotor would spin-down faster if they were hidden in the pillow blocks.  It's a weak one.
Also, TK openly admits that there are batteries in the aluminum box. It think he claims the aluminum box is responsible for generating the activating signal to the brass disks.  You'd need somebody who speak Georgian to confirm what he's saying (if it matters).

frankidel

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 57
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16842 on: April 11, 2013, 03:18:28 AM »
frankidel my friend
Yes it will help a lot
Please  if you can do it it helps  us all

================================================================

Verpies you are incredible my friend thank you very much for helping all of us.
I'm  good in radio, antennas propagation,electronics, and  material engineering.
I'm not the top gun  in chemistry, however I'm not bad as well.
my friend- the (nick)-
Mysterious Man from Far Away
is  top,top gun for sure. But he is not always accessible.




Wesley


Here you go, i tried my best but i'm not fully bilingual  ;)

jbignes5

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1281
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16843 on: April 11, 2013, 03:44:09 AM »
No, your take on the operating principle was quite different.
Then decide whether the gain medium is something across the spark gap (impulse discharge) or the copper itself.
You may be talking about a device that is constructed similarly, but you had never written about energy from induced beta decay in copper, zinc or iron. 
You only wrote about energy from vacuum and aether - never about the conversion of matter into energy.
A couple of commonalities in construction does not make it the same exact method of operation.


 My take has always been that the spark discharge into the heavy copper coil excites the inner coil period. there is no transmutation of anything. It simply excites the atoms of the copper back and forth and this is the inertia that Tesla talks about. Using it in the right way is another story.


 I have never talked about beta decay because there is no such thing. There is no electrons just the electric potential of the atom itself. Wow you guys really don't get that do you? This is an electric field excitation of matter. In order to take advantage of this you have to approach it differently.


 You can give this any definition you want and say there it is different then what you have been saying for 700 pages. Look back and you will see around page 600 I stated such and have been trying to teach people about the electric field, not the magnetic. In magnetics you have a balanced system. It must be because it is circular. With the electric field it is longitudinal. Two very different concepts but the stubborn ones don't ever want to capitulate. Instead they make names up and make believe electrons to explain it differently then what is explained so very easily by the electric field.


 The commonalities are the exact process I have been talking about all the while. The only differences is the new names beta and electron... Total BS..


 If the electron exists then show us all this marvelous particle. Not one bit of evidence is there to show the electron, in fact it changed from electron to the electron cloud. I have always stated the cloud was exactly like our biggest example, the earth. It is an electric field with a surface, with magnetic cross field.


 So yeah change the terminology then claim it is different then what I have been trying to impart the whole time. Whatever...


 Ask stivep what my real responses were all the time. He knows.. Obviosly you don't with such a low post count... Go back and look and stop trying to lay some BS...

elementSix

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 350
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16844 on: April 11, 2013, 04:01:29 AM »