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jbignes5

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16320 on: March 09, 2013, 10:13:17 PM »
Sergey Zatsarinin transformer.
For the record.

Hello all, I have been continuing with experiments on the above as I feel it is part of the heart of the beast.
I have some bizzare results to share and for you to disect or digest as you see fit.
I am running a modified Royer oscillator (see below)  into a split 22mm Copper tube with 8 Ferrite torroids Permeability 7000.
Open circuit condition:-                 Vdc 12, I 1.04, F 65.3 Khz.
Shorted with single wire:-             Vdc 12.2, I 1.0, F 575.9 Khz.
Load 20W 12Vdc halogen bulb:-   Vdc 5.8, I 5.41, F 37.8 Khz. Low volts due to power supply being unable to provide.
The oscillator is a fixed frequency, but as you can see it changes frequency due to load condition. What I dont understand is why under a short circuit condition the current falls and the voltage rises.The other is why when a resistive load is applied the current goes through the roof.

Any answers?


 A few questions for you.


 The increase in frequency is from the primary or secondary side.
 Where are you measuring the voltage or current rise? Secondary?
 On the schematic you are using a core? If there is then you are limiting the frequency even more. All cores do this. This is why Tesla used no core and wound the secondary on top of the primary. Imagine the frequency you would measure if there wasn't a core.... Again Tesla used a bifilar type primary. This was to reduce the reactive portion of a standard solenoid from the spark gap impulses. And then only the natural resistance or the wire was left. This allowed for a speeding up of the impulse beyond what was normal to standard coils and hence a gain of energy could be obtained.


 Tesla did a great many experiments on charged particles and even when the charge was the same if the speed increased then an increase in energy was secured when that charge hit an object. This is the whole premise behind his death ray.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16321 on: March 09, 2013, 10:53:32 PM »

 A few questions for you.


 The increase in frequency is from the primary or secondary side.
 Where are you measuring the voltage or current rise? Secondary?
 On the schematic you are using a core? If there is then you are limiting the frequency even more. All cores do this. This is why Tesla used no core and wound the secondary on top of the primary. Imagine the frequency you would measure if there wasn't a core.... Again Tesla used a bifilar type primary. This was to reduce the reactive portion of a standard solenoid from the spark gap impulses. And then only the natural resistance or the wire was left. This allowed for a speeding up of the impulse beyond what was normal to standard coils and hence a gain of energy could be obtained.


 Tesla did a great many experiments on charged particles and even when the charge was the same if the speed increased then an increase in energy was secured when that charge hit an object. This is the whole premise behind his death ray.
Hello jbignes5,

All DC measurements were carried out on the input to the oscillator, the frequency measurement was taken from the output to the single tubular primary. I suppose you could say that the transformer has a core but it wraps over the primary. The secondary (just a single wire) runs through the tubular primary. As you are probably aware Royer oscillators find, and run at,  their resonant frequency, I wonder  if what is happening is cased by the change in circuit parameters?
Any way I will keep on investigating.

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« Reply #16322 on: March 10, 2013, 01:23:00 AM »



 Ok I looked up the Royer oscillator and it seems straight forward. But that is a DC to AC converter. DC in to AC out but the AC is not sinusoid. It is a square wave AC output.


 This is not what I have talked about in the slightest. Yours is center tapped and the Tesla oscillator is not generally centered tapped. The Royer oscillator is also saturable core transformer which can give weird outputs as you have seen.


 The transformer I suggested is a new breed of static like output because it raises the voltage beyond what other transformer can do.

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« Reply #16323 on: March 10, 2013, 07:56:57 AM »
Quote
. The Royer oscillator is also saturable core transformer which can give weird outputs as you have seen.


The load alters the inductance of the coil and thus the frequency must be recalculated as a function of the new values​​.


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« Reply #16324 on: March 10, 2013, 08:03:26 AM »
 Having a low voltage winding and a HV winding, using also Coax Cable..
Maybe this might point us in a better direction.---->>>

The invention relates to electrical engineering, to energopreobrazovatelnym devices and can be used in the power supply of electrical devices and systems. The technical result is to increase the flexibility and adaptability of the output parameters of the control transformer, extended output power parameters and the possibility of fine adjustment. Resonant transformer includes a primary and secondary coaxial coil. In the interior of the secondary winding of an extra coaxially inside additional winding set of ferrite core, made an open one. 2 BACKGROUND f-ly, 1 ill.
The invention relates to electrical engineering, namely energopreobrazovatelnym devices and can be used to power electrical devices and systems.
A device for the generation of electrical energy, consisting of a source of high voltage capacitor charger, discharger besserdechnikovogo transformer primary winding is connected to the discharge circuit-charging capacitor, characterized in that, in order to ensure the operation of the device as efirodinamicheskogo electricity generator, the secondary set in resonance with the discharge, and for providing a positive feedback output transformer secondary winding is connected to the battery through a rectifier capacitor / Application RU 2003113351, 2004 /.
Known device is not available from the output low voltage consumers.
A device to capture and convert physical vacuum energy into electrical energy, comprising: a modified transformer, generator of sinusoidal current, the capacitor of the primary winding of the transformer, the transformer secondary condenser, matching element, battery / Application RU 2001109811, 2003 /.
Known device structurally difficult, not technologically to use, especially when doing this, to have limited application at high energy performance, does not meet the safety requirements (high voltage), no electromagnetic compatibility with the consumer.
N.Tesla known transformer consisting of three windings - primary and two secondary, located inside the primary. A high-voltage secondary winding, and the second low-voltage winding, located similarly high / V.A.Atsyukovsky. Transformer N.Tesla: Energy from the air. Publishing house "Petit", 2004, page 8, 7 /. The disadvantage of a small area of ​​the transformer windings interact with each other.
The closest is a resonant transformer having a primary circuit is tuned to resonance at the resonant frequency of the inductance and capacitance (resonance currents or voltages), characterized in that the coil in the primary circuit has two cores, the smaller of which contains a secondary coil, which is removed useful power, and the total change in the inductance of the coil primary circuit does not exceed (even when fully loaded transformer) of several percent, which hardly affects the resonance, is removed from the secondary power exceeds the power of email. current in the primary circuit, as at resonance, the total power at the coil of the transformer primary circuit in times of Dr (Q) exceeds the total power supplied to the primary circuit, the resonance is maintained when the transformer load or change the capacitance and inductance of the resonant circuit, or a change in frequency of a let down DC / Application RU 96108039, 1998 /.
Known transformer does not have a high Q factor, structurally complex, not technologically when adjusting the output parameters. Object of the invention is to increase the flexibility and adaptability of the output parameters of the control transformer, increasing energy output parameters as well as their smooth adjustment.
The problem is solved by the fact that in a resonant transformer, which includes primary and secondary coaxial coil according to the invention in the inner cavity of the secondary winding coaxially mounted auxiliary winding, auxiliary winding is installed inside of the ferrite core, made an open one. The distinguishing features are:

- In the interior of the secondary winding of an extra coaxial (which reduces the structural complexity, enables the implementation of technological control of power settings);

- Inside the auxiliary winding set a core made of ferrite (which provides expansion output parameters - current and voltage);

- The core is made not closed (which reduces the consumption of materials and structural complexity).

Thus, the claimed solution meets the criterion of "novelty." A comparison of the proposed solutions with peers and other known solutions are not revealed to them the features distinguishing the claimed solution to the prototype, which allows to conclude that the criterion of "inventive step."
The invention is illustrated drawing, where the transformer is presented in the context of resonant transformer comprises a primary winding 1, the secondary winding 2, additional winding 3, frame 4 coil core 5.
Resonant transformer operates as follows. In the primary of one transformer with a high frequency current pulses of short rise triggered by a pulse generator (the figure is not specified). The secondary coil 2 having a greater number of turns than the primary, the phenomenon of resonance, which is initiated by a high voltage / V.A.Atsyukovsky. Modeling of structures of matter and fields on the basis of gaseous air. "Energoizdat", 1990, p.5-7 /.
The resonant oscillations due to the secondary parameters (wire diameter, number of turns, the thickness and insulation material), which in turn initiates an extra-low voltage winding 3, which has fewer turns than the secondary coil. The additional winding can be connected if needed rectifying diodes and a smoothing capacitor. In this case, the resulting DC voltage can be used either directly or through the appropriate converters, DC to change the form of the energy needed by the consumer. Resonant transformer can work without the core, but with the transformer core power figures increase by at least 10%. Not a closed core secures the proper functioning of the transformer core saturation and without concomitant distortions in converting electricity.
Control the output of the transformer is performed without modifying the transformer, and by varying only the input action of the control pulses generated by any generator.
Resonant transformer provides increased flexibility and adaptability of the output parameters of adjustment, with the expansion of output power parameters and the ability to fine adjustment of any of the pulse generator, which in turn provides a simple and easy to navigate.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16325 on: March 10, 2013, 08:18:24 AM »
Sergey Zatsarinin transformer.
For the record.

Hello all, I have been continuing with experiments on the above as I feel it is part of the heart of the beast.
I have some bizzare results to share and for you to disect or digest as you see fit.
I am running a modified Royer oscillator (see below)  into a split 22mm Copper tube with 8 Ferrite torroids Permeability 7000.
Open circuit condition:-                 Vdc 12, I 1.04, F 65.3 Khz.
Shorted with single wire:-             Vdc 12.2, I 1.0, F 575.9 Khz.
Load 20W 12Vdc halogen bulb:-   Vdc 5.8, I 5.41, F 37.8 Khz. Low volts due to power supply being unable to provide.
The oscillator is a fixed frequency, but as you can see it changes frequency due to load condition. What I dont understand is why under a short circuit condition the current falls and the voltage rises.The other is why when a resistive load is applied the current goes through the roof.

Any answers?


It looks like the phase angle between the current and voltage are rotated enough with the loading of the second tuned circuit to cause the votage controled transistor to open when the primary inductor is at its most conductive state (ie. when the field is colapsing and current is being pushed).

Not knowing what the values are I would hazard to guess that the 575.9 Khz is resonant with the primary LC and the 65.3 Khz is resonant with the secondary LC. I'm probably wrong about that because I haven't thought it through completely. Shorting it like that has got to introduce a great amount of reluctance to the primary. I would think that it should slow it down quite a bit. Maybe it's resonating with something else. Perhaps it acting like a RC with only the feedlines and the capacitor acting while the inductor is not partisipating at all...? I don't know why the frequency goes up when shorted.

That's my guess anyway. I'm a slow thinker so I'll just offer this as a half of a thought.

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« Reply #16326 on: March 10, 2013, 12:22:46 PM »
In Grumage oscillator I think the ferrite toroids become saturated by the peak oscillating currents when the load is a single piece of wire, so this very very low impedance greatly modifies (reduces) the primary coil inductance too (the influence is due to the close mutual inductance coupling) and this lower inductance causes the frequency to go higher (I agree with Leo48).   It is okay that the Royer oscillator basically a saturable core oscillator by default but the very low impedance a short piece of wire represents can enhance the saturating process.

Why the current goes down a little in the shorted output case?  It is very likely that the new LC tank circuit what is created by the shorted output will have a bit higher resonant impedance versus the unshorted output case so the current could go down a little.

Why the DC supply voltage increases by 0.2V?  Well, perhaps its behaviour at 575 kHz (its inner impedance and regulating properties ) is much different than at 65 kHz, this can count already, the usage of several ceramic capacitors in parallel with the supply voltage entering the oscillator board may help remedy that (use 47nF, 220nF and maybe 470nF ceramic type capacitors all in parallel).

IF you have an L meter, you may check how the primary inductance changes (remove the coil from the rest of the circuit and remove the C capacitors from both sides of the coil assembly) by measuring the primary L first with the secondary coil open, then shorted with that piece of wire.  This new L value across the primary could shed some light already and this will be influenced in the working oscillator by the saturating cores due to mainly the peak currents. 

To answer the possible reason why the current goes up so much when the halogen lamp is the load:  with the L meter (if you have got one) you may check also how the primary inductance changes when the secondary is loaded passively with the lamp albeit the lamp's cold resistance is much lower than in the hot filament case.  The explanation on the possible phase angle variations in the oscillator angryscientist has written about can also be valid.  Also, do not be surprised when the working behaviour of this oscillator changes due to the usage of the parallel capacitors at the supply voltage entry points and this changed behaviour may be valid for the lamp load case too.

Gyula

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« Reply #16327 on: March 10, 2013, 04:13:16 PM »



 Any attempt to separate the coils from the capacitance will give a false reading. The system can't be tested for the true cause because as soon as you change the system it changes all parameters. This is the problem with these types of observations. What I suggest is that the capacitance in the secondary changes and this changes the resonant response of the secondary when the capacitor is bypassed. When the capacitor is bypassed it changes the resonance that is established or tunes it to a higher resonance point. When the capacitor is unshorted the resonance is lower and hence the frequency drops. The current also adjusts to the resonance appropriately as well as the voltage on the primary.


 Try recording all the parameters when shorted and unshorted as best you can and try to relate it to the resonance of the primary to the secondary. I'm sure it will make more sense in that way. The turns ratio is also a factor as well as gauges of the wires used in the transformer. Maybe having a picture of the device will help us to better understand the setup you are testing.

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« Reply #16328 on: March 10, 2013, 04:39:54 PM »
  Tesla was definitely into high voltage as are the folks that build particle accelerators.  The efield appears capable of accelerating charged particles.  If air is ionized by hv hf a goodly amount of free electrons are accelerated by the efield.  The air neuclides are also accelerated.  One of the main elements in air is nitrogen14.  Just thinking what happens to an ionized nitrogen atom when it is bombarded with lots of accelerated electrons.  Any chance of knocking a neutron loose and subsequent decay into electron/positron production and gamma.  Why do we need to mine uranium when most of the air we breath is heavy nitrogen.  Can't an isotope of an element be coerced into radioactive decay and we get to listen to the decay on devices that do useful work for us?

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« Reply #16329 on: March 10, 2013, 05:08:23 PM »
  Tesla was definitely into high voltage as are the folks that build particle accelerators.  The efield appears capable of accelerating charged particles.  If air is ionized by hv hf a goodly amount of free electrons are accelerated by the efield.  The air neuclides are also accelerated.  One of the main elements in air is nitrogen14.  Just thinking what happens to an ionized nitrogen atom when it is bombarded with lots of accelerated electrons.  Any chance of knocking a neutron loose and subsequent decay into electron/positron production and gamma.  Why do we need to mine uranium when most of the air we breath is heavy nitrogen.  Can't an isotope of an element be coerced into radioactive decay and we get to listen to the decay on devices that do useful work for us?


 Uh huh... yup yup yup... The e-field is so responsible for all acceleration. Now lets think about the e-field in space and why our universe is speeding up..... Hmmmm.... They (the scientists of this day) say they don't have a clue why it should be speeding up... Well we know, we just don't want to give credit to the theory that space is one huge e-field. Gravity becomes the interaction of this e-field across 1000's of light years. Even closer is the gravity among our solar systems and even the gravity of our planet.


 What does the e-field of our own planet look like and how does it relate to gravity and light propagation? Tesla knew of the e-field and how powerful it could become and how easy it can make connections to the local e-field of any object and transfer power with little loss.  Alot of his experiments show this including his transmission system. And resonance is the icing on the cake.


 TK also realized this and used currentless impulses to cause movement of a huge amount of charges which when in motion create a heavy magnetic field which in turn induce a huge amount of movement of bound charges in matter or real current.

 Somehow we became mesmerized by the magnetic field and rarely pay attention to the e-field which is the genesis of all movement. We have focused on the magnetic field and rejected the electric field for no other reason other then it was too simple. We must have a difference in potential to cause movement of the charges in any matter. Weather that is air or solid matter it all comes down to the potentials.

 Like I have said before in my experiments with crystal batteries the resting potential of two different metals can and will cause a flow of charges that can be harvested and used via the metals ability to maintain a balance with the surrounding environment. All of this without the decomposition of the metals if the right mixture of crystalline material is used. This is not debatable because there is a great amount of verifiable experimentation of the crystalline batteries. Not much of the metals are consumed because the crystalline material protects the metals with a layer of oxide in between the crystalline layer and the metal. The amount of power available is based on the standing potential of the two materials and this creates an active diode with a battery like effect without the galvanic response if built with the proper crystalline material.

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« Reply #16330 on: March 10, 2013, 10:06:56 PM »
  The magnetic field is secondary to the efield propogation.  A moving charge disrupts the flow of virtual particles that create charge.  Leedskalin was right.  There are two currents in his perpectual motion holder.  One supporting negatively charged mass and one supporting positively charged space.  In a flow of current electrons move in one direction while the lack of electrons moves in the other.  In a p doped semiconductor the p comes from positive charges. There are no electrons moving around the lattice of a p doped semiconductor stratta.  There is just space moving around.  On subjecting the pdoped crystal to an electric field SPACE MOVES.  The hubble flow is simply space moving.  Most likely space is moving towards a very massive something somewhere.  Einstein said it.  Mass screws around with space.  It bends it-distorts it but all in all moves it.  Our perceptable Universe could be a matter of scale and we all are existing inside what an outside observer would call a light hole.  A bubble in a superdense plasma soup.

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« Reply #16331 on: March 10, 2013, 10:15:52 PM »
In Grumage oscillator I think the ferrite toroids become saturated by the peak oscillating currents when the load is a single piece of wire, so this very very low impedance greatly modifies (reduces) the primary coil inductance too (the influence is due to the close mutual inductance coupling) and this lower inductance causes the frequency to go higher (I agree with Leo48).   It is okay that the Royer oscillator basically a saturable core oscillator by default but the very low impedance a short piece of wire represents can enhance the saturating process.

Why the current goes down a little in the shorted output case?  It is very likely that the new LC tank circuit what is created by the shorted output will have a bit higher resonant impedance versus the unshorted output case so the current could go down a little.

Why the DC supply voltage increases by 0.2V?  Well, perhaps its behaviour at 575 kHz (its inner impedance and regulating properties ) is much different than at 65 kHz, this can count already, the usage of several ceramic capacitors in parallel with the supply voltage entering the oscillator board may help remedy that (use 47nF, 220nF and maybe 470nF ceramic type capacitors all in parallel).

IF you have an L meter, you may check how the primary inductance changes (remove the coil from the rest of the circuit and remove the C capacitors from both sides of the coil assembly) by measuring the primary L first with the secondary coil open, then shorted with that piece of wire.  This new L value across the primary could shed some light already and this will be influenced in the working oscillator by the saturating cores due to mainly the peak currents. 

To answer the possible reason why the current goes up so much when the halogen lamp is the load:  with the L meter (if you have got one) you may check also how the primary inductance changes when the secondary is loaded passively with the lamp albeit the lamp's cold resistance is much lower than in the hot filament case.  The explanation on the possible phase angle variations in the oscillator angryscientist has written about can also be valid.  Also, do not be surprised when the working behaviour of this oscillator changes due to the usage of the parallel capacitors at the supply voltage entry points and this changed behaviour may be valid for the lamp load case too.

Gyula

Hello Gyula and all.

Hat's off to you all,  between  you the riddle is solved. The primary winding or Copper tube in this case's iductance changes due to the condition of the secondary. I followed your advice and checked with my LCR bridge meter. Armed with the results I then checked them with an LC resonance calculator who's results showed, not a match of frequency but as near as makes no difference.

I am still intrigued however by the short circuit condition. Today I placed a Diode in the pos rail to isolate the switch mode power supply from the circuit and noted first the volt drop across the diode. Then I shorted the secondary and we still see about 200mV increase and a corresponding drop in current.

Many thanks for your input, My reasons for this line of research is because many of the schematics posted seem to rely on a copper tube or rod through a torroidal ferrite core. BTW take another look at the circuit I posted. It is  Royer oscillator without a center tap, but beware, don't try bringing up the voltage applied from zero. One Fet will close almost immediately creating a deadly short and then sudden death will occur, bin there done that!!
Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #16332 on: March 10, 2013, 11:53:20 PM »
Any chance of knocking a neutron loose and subsequent decay into electron/positron production and gamma.
According to conventional theory - no, beta decay rate cannot be influenced but its orientation can.

IMO increased electron density favors conversion of neutrons into protons and ejection of high-speed positrons in the process. (β+ decay).
The positrons get emitted from the two poles of the spinning nuclei, so if the nuclear spin axes are polarized, then the positrons will get emitted in non-random directions (parallel to the spin axes) and become concentrated (directionalized).  IMO the high-speed positrons can cause additional β- decays of susceptible nuclei accompanied with ejection of high-speed electrons this time.  IMO if these speedy positrons and electrons are confined inside matter then their chances of causing secondary reactions are increased.  Materials that are capable of both positive β+and negative β- beta decay would be the preferable gain media for such processes because of their ability to decay in both directions.
I don't know about nitrogen but copper is one of such materials.

If streams of these high-speed electrons or positrons become directionalized, then they form strong pulses of electric current that can be inductively coupled or used in other ways.
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« Reply #16333 on: March 10, 2013, 11:59:03 PM »
  The magnetic field is secondary to the efield propogation.  A moving charge disrupts the flow of virtual particles that create charge.  Leedskalin was right.  There are two currents in his perpectual motion holder.  One supporting negatively charged mass and one supporting positively charged space.  In a flow of current electrons move in one direction while the lack of electrons moves in the other.  In a p doped semiconductor the p comes from positive charges. There are no electrons moving around the lattice of a p doped semiconductor stratta.  There is just space moving around.  On subjecting the pdoped crystal to an electric field SPACE MOVES.  The hubble flow is simply space moving.  Most likely space is moving towards a very massive something somewhere.  Einstein said it.  Mass screws around with space.  It bends it-distorts it but all in all moves it.  Our perceptable Universe could be a matter of scale and we all are existing inside what an outside observer would call a light hole.  A bubble in a superdense plasma soup.


 Mass doesn't screw around with space it displaces the natural medium. Not all of it but only a percentage. Since space wants to stay balanced the displacement of the medium has to go somewhere. Yes like a bubble it becomes more dense and slowly fades back to the ambient space level. We see this bubble as our atmosphere and the same can be seen as the cloud around the atom. If there is a displacement of the medium of space that creates a vacuum of that medium. This is the reason we see gravity. As the medium rushes in to fill the vacuum a rather strange thing happens. The charges that are free in space flow along with that flow towards the center of that vacuum. This does many many things. First off gravity is felt. Secondly once the charges get to the center they become trapped and create great amount of heat. While the charges flow towards the center this also creates great amounts of magnetic forces. All of this is the results of the medium being displaced by matter.


 It's so simple it will make you laugh.


 If we could change the scale at what we see we would understand that we are in matter of a larger scale that spans millions of light years. It would be like looking through a micro scope then transporting to that scale and it would look like what we see when we look in outer space.


 Most of the simulations that we have now of the universe looks like we are living in a fibrous matter all connected and flowing over millions of light years. upon viewing this one can only conclude that it's all a fractal. The further we look the more we find in either direction.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxVAsnb9CE4

 This is a simulation that we made from what we have observed in our universe.

 This all relates back to the container under water example that Tesla proposed. And it is exactly how TK is getting the results he is getting. He has a vacuum that is the earth. He creates a big electric field and the charges flow towards that vacuum but he induces a current as the charges rush by the coil via the electric field and flow into the vacuum that is ever present in our planet. So simple you'd laugh.

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« Reply #16334 on: March 11, 2013, 01:24:33 PM »
Interesting thing in TKvid that they used salt water for the earthed radiator and in one of his comments he says that the generator will work without earthing including a small circuit.