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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 12862836 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16230 on: February 28, 2013, 05:57:18 AM »
I really don't know the details. I just like the idea. Just lately I'm not well (health problems) so it has been impossible for me to study the way I would like to.
I can't experiment at present either really. That's life I guess.

Anyway I see that the split copper tube core and such experiments can have some interesting results.

I'm the type of person who always wants to think of where the energy is going to come from, and I just can't get my head around extra energy coming from the air around a device as a result of oscillating fields or gradient fields that we create. If a field was applied to solid matter I think it could be a different story.

I'm not electrically trained except for basic theory and workplace safety about 25 years ago for my trade, I'm a boilermaker. Though I've always been a tinkerer and experimenter
I do realize that when building things or getting machines to work we must deal with "what is the case" not what "we want to be case", to fix something properly we need to recognize what the problem "actually is" not just what the problem is causing. Just like to build a device to capture free energy we need to know or have an idea of "where the energy actually is going to come from".

Cheers

Let me help. I experimented for a long time with cold electricity obtaining many puzzling anomalies. It was not until I read and re-read Bedini's "free energy generation" that I started to understand what was going on. Essentially the experiments that I had already conducted were done by the Bedini/Bearden team.
It takes a leap in thinking to realise that the vacuum is teaming with energy. The way to get it out is through a short sharp spike which is called radiant energy. I am not going into the experiments that I am privvy to, as some are part of the  old star wars project. Suffice to say that the spike on circuit opening exists in laser technology and is OU.
It was when I was teasing TK in a phone conference that he accidentally let the cat out of the bag that he uses rapid switching to get ou. The Lasersaber circuit also uses rapid switching and is a genius of simplicity.
As for comments from others about the  capacitor in TK's circuits may I suggest that you should look and analyse TK's patents. The capacitor is at the heart of both patents.
Also remember you only need a fraction of free energy (from the vacuum) to start an infinity loop.
I fully understand the reason why this should happen but it concerns relativity theory and time dilation and is far too complicated to go into on this forum.
The main focus here should be on helpful and practical hints so that our research can proceed in the right direction.
The fact that a capacitor can light up a bulb is the correct direction in my view. Later I will show you how to accelerate the self charging effect. This is a process called conditioning.
Remember the simplest  Laser saber circuit uses a frequency generator (the transistor), two coils, a capacitor and a load. TK's patents show the same components, plus a few more to facilitate looping, and voltage stabilisation.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16231 on: February 28, 2013, 09:45:16 AM »

Let me help. I experimented for a long time with cold electricity obtaining many puzzling anomalies. It was not until I read and re-read Bedini's "free energy generation" that I started to understand what was going on. Essentially the experiments that I had already conducted were done by the Bedini/Bearden team.
It takes a leap in thinking to realise that the vacuum is teaming with energy. The way to get it out is through a short sharp spike which is called radiant energy. I am not going into the experiments that I am privvy to, as some are part of the  old star wars project. Suffice to say that the spike on circuit opening exists in laser technology and is OU.
It was when I was teasing TK in a phone conference that he accidentally let the cat out of the bag that he uses rapid switching to get ou. The Lasersaber circuit also uses rapid switching and is a genius of simplicity.
As for comments from others about the  capacitor in TK's circuits may I suggest that you should look and analyse TK's patents. The capacitor is at the heart of both patents.
Also remember you only need a fraction of free energy (from the vacuum) to start an infinity loop.
I fully understand the reason why this should happen but it concerns relativity theory and time dilation and is far too complicated to go into on this forum.
The main focus here should be on helpful and practical hints so that our research can proceed in the right direction.
The fact that a capacitor can light up a bulb is the correct direction in my view. Later I will show you how to accelerate the self charging effect. This is a process called conditioning.
Remember the simplest  Laser saber circuit uses a frequency generator (the transistor), two coils, a capacitor and a load. TK's patents show the same components, plus a few more to facilitate looping, and voltage stabilisation.

You are not helping at all by continuing to spread misinformation by saying that LaserSaber's devices are self-runners. As is well known, Bedini's published energiser systems are not closed loop self-runners and any energy gains claimed for in his systems are as a result of battery conditioning based on Bearden's strongly contested time dilation theory that basically claims that environmental / aetheric energy is 'captured' in the time dilated 'spike' associated with the classic 'h' waveform.

I really fail to see how the fact that a charged capacitor can light up a bulb in anyway suggests that this points to the correct direction for self-running.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16232 on: February 28, 2013, 10:43:56 AM »
a.king21
I think your being manipulated by TK he knows your after hes secret
He simply is going to send you in circles,you can't outwit him.
If you can't see that Bedini/Bearden are low grade con men your quest is doomed.
In TK you are dealing with one step below satan in deception,hes abilities
in this area are powerful,could fool anyone,including a few people here that are
engineers.


to all:
In the past there
was a member named tao,in the tpu threads.
He got manipulated by sm,and was told you are very close,you have my secret,
so I wrote this a while back in hes honor, of being a fool.

I once knew a man named tao,a man of infinite juste,who conversed with SM
on seeing hes twisted wire nest,SM farted and with fists clinched, aimed at the sky,
let out a bloody scream,You have it,"my precious secret!!"
oh poor,poor tao,bud, that was more than 4 years ago.Like a new prisoner,in prison that bends
over to pick up the soap
in the showers,you got something all right,but it was not SM's secret.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16232 on: February 28, 2013, 10:43:56 AM »
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Offline a.king21

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16233 on: February 28, 2013, 11:01:04 AM »
Who's spreading disinformation? I'm sure that the discerning members know only too well.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16234 on: February 28, 2013, 11:24:17 AM »
Who's spreading disinformation? I'm sure that the discerning members know only too well.

Please note that I'm using the word 'misinformation', not to be confused with 'disinformation', as I doubt that you are spreading misinformation deliberately.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16235 on: February 28, 2013, 02:24:28 PM »
Just lately I'm not well (health problems) so it has been impossible for me to study the way I would like to. I can't experiment at present either really.
Sorry to read that. Is it the high fever flu that's been going around or something more permanent?

I'm the type of person who always wants to think of where the energy is going to come from, and I just can't get my head around extra energy coming from the air around a device as a result of oscillating fields or gradient fields that we create. If a field was applied to solid matter I think it could be a different story.
I think it is more probable to convert air to energy than vacuum to energy.  Air is matter after all.

The proponents of energy from the ambient, vacuum, Dirac sea, etc... do not believe that space is just a reference system created by the gravitating matter, instead they believe that space is a container filled with a mysterious fluid called Aether that does not slow down planets over centuries yet carries gravity, electricity, magnetism and light as strong vibrations in it.

There was a big discussion about the existence of Aether at the turn of the 19/20 century, that I do not feel like repeating here.
The strongest argument for the existence of Aether often used by its proponents was "We can't imagine another explanation for the behavior of the universe except for Aether".

If Aether does not exist then energy from vacuum automatically becomes nonsense, thus these two ideas are inextricably connected
It is important to realize that.

BTW:
Do you understand how lasers work?


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16236 on: February 28, 2013, 03:51:55 PM »
short question : are you blind or what ?!
what field is around us every time ?
do you know that all mechanical effects are gravitional indeed ?
please connect dots, everything is already there in public

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Offline verpies

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« Reply #16237 on: February 28, 2013, 04:34:27 PM »
short question: are you blind or what ?!
I am not, are you claiming that Aether exists and is visible?

what field is around us every time ?
I can't answer that if you don't write what's your definition of a "field".

do you know that all mechanical effects are gravitational indeed ?
I don't believe in that.

please connect dots, everything is already there in public
What dots?  Experimental or theoretical dots?
Theoretically, there are also Aetherless explanations out there in public for all the forces we observe.

Do you want to repeat the Aether discussion that happened at the turn of the 19/20 century, here ?
If "yes" then familiarize yourself with it first, before you attempt this feat.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16238 on: February 28, 2013, 06:39:03 PM »
verpies

I don't want to talk about aether, it's useless talk... things are much more simpler, much more...but in the end , only actual working device is important, which is not easy to setup. Ask Jack NoSkills for example. He got some small amount of OU but nobody is able to replicate it....

The radiant energy source...what it could be ? I guess ,if finally TK or somebody would tell you , you would be surprised a lot....don't take faint as poor and pretty as innocent...things are not what they appear to be
Wait....! somebody already told you..but you ignored it as impossible...


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #16239 on: February 28, 2013, 07:15:34 PM »
verpies


The radiant energy source...what it could be ? I guess ,if finally TK or somebody would tell you , you would be surprised a lot....don't take faint as poor and pretty as innocent...things are not what they appear to be


Well, please tell me, what things in relation to TK are not what they appear to be? I assure you that I won't be surprised at your answer.

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« Reply #16240 on: February 28, 2013, 08:02:34 PM »
  I agree with Farmhand. That knowing WHERE the energy is coming from is very important. If you want to take a whack at something, you need to know where to strike it.  Or you may as well just use solar, wind, or hydro, and forget anything else.

  To discount the Aether as an energy source, after all that Tesla and others have said about it, and have shown through a life time of experiments, patents, and inventions, is not going to take us in the right direction. Where do you think that the energy comes from when you spin magnets around coils???
  Those that don't agree, do you think that you really know more than Tesla?
  It may take another 100 years to figure out just how to tap this illusive Aether, but this will happen, sooner or later.
 Those that don't want to hear about it, well, then why are you reading this thread? 
TK and his devices are all about exploiting this "theory". 

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« Reply #16241 on: February 28, 2013, 08:20:04 PM »
I don't want to talk about aether, it's useless talk...
Neither do I.

...but in the end , only actual working device is important,
Of course. Is the belief in Aether necessary for its successful construction?

The radiant energy source...what it could be ?
...
somebody already told you..but you ignored it as impossible...
Nobody has ever explained to me adequately what "radiant energy" is. 
How is "radiant energy" different from light which is also radiant and also a form of energy ?

I remember a.king21 writing that "radiant energy" on an oscilloscope looks like a series of nanosecond wide pulses, but that still does not explain to me what "radiant energy" is - it only describes some of its properties. Those properties can be exhibited by regular electric current, too, so what's the difference?
In other words: "Radiant Energy" isn't a series of a short electric current pulses (e.g. produced by a DSRD diode), is it? If it is, then how is it different from electric current? 
Do short pulse periods justify naming the good old electric current as a whole new form of energy - the "radiant energy"?

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« Reply #16242 on: February 28, 2013, 08:31:02 PM »
  Maybe we don't have to know what electricity really is, or for that matter what radiant energy is, to be able to utilize it to build a device that works with it. But wouldn't it be better to know, even if not absolutely necessary?
To try to explain that which this invisible to us, and not measurable by any known source or means, may not be within our grasp at this point in time.
  Light is not different from the Aether, it is a part of it, all energies come from this same source. 
  In any case, since we can't seam to be able to come up with a working device, between ALL of us, theory is all we have to work with, until we can.
  I personally don't care too much about what radiant energy is, so long as I can produce the results that I need. As I feel that in time, more about this will become better known and accepted.  Or we can continue to believe the "Big Bang Theory",  where everything came from nothing in one moment, as is the current view from our best scientists.

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« Reply #16243 on: February 28, 2013, 08:33:41 PM »
Eureka or flash in the pan?

Hi All,

Posted below are two pictures, first is of Sinus input from Signal Generator @ 1v P/P (for some reason I can't put a scope on the O/P of the Audio Amp as it shorts) Second trace over 120 V P/P.
Voltage peaks at 28 Khz. Output is off 30 SWG at 250 turns under the black tape. This coil was the start of an aborted project but it took so long to wind I kept it! The O/P voltage is not capable of  load but with thicker wire who know's?

Second picture is of the Ferrite core, the sort of horizontal winding is the last layer from the secondary of an old microwave oven transformer. I estimate the gague also in the 30 swg bracket.
Input current appears to be 200mA. But what I found encouraging  was the massive voltage gain.

Comments Welcome.

Hi Grumage

On your device is amplifying pulse or keep same voltage peak?

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« Reply #16244 on: February 28, 2013, 08:47:26 PM »
Where do you think that the energy comes from when you spin magnets around coils???
I think that it comes from the hand that spins the magnets.

 

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