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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16408081 times)

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15480 on: December 24, 2012, 09:47:27 AM »
Why should a device of small size (although it does actually not look that small) not work, but a bigger device does? What could be the physical reason for this?
For example the confinement of charged particles (not conduction electrons) inside solid matter requires higher magnetic flux density for smaller radii (see the attached photo of electrons in gas being confined to a circle by a magnetic field).
Also, smaller radii lead to higher resonance frequencies and higher frequencies incur higher penalty from the skin-effect in conductive materials, possibly bringing the device below the break-even point (unity).

The above statements are universally true but not necessarily applicable to TK's devices since one of those devices has been shown by Wattsup as powered externally via a hand-held cable.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2012, 12:46:17 PM by verpies »

verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15481 on: December 24, 2012, 10:00:59 AM »
The inverter creates just an additional loss of the battery's scarce energy and takes the place for more (or bigger) batteries. Hence it would be more efficient to fake this with 8 (smaller) 12V batteries, wouldn't it?
It would. That fat lamp would easily hold more than 8 of such batteries.
The only disadvantage of this "solution" would be its DC output (easily discovered by plain multimeters) but the lightbulb would not "care".

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15482 on: December 24, 2012, 10:14:37 AM »
Farmhand
OU is nothing more but consummation of external energy. Coal burner is OU if you don't have to dig for or buy coal.  :P

What we are looking for is OU which consume external force field. Interesting  that every attempt to get it in large commercial scale require a single place when large amount of energy is tapped which makes situation unstable and disaster occur (nature tries to balance huge displacement). Tesla knew something about it when he experimented in Colorado Springs and there are articles describing strange effect in envinronment.
Imho the only way is to tap energy in small  amounts evenly distributed over the Earth. Something quite opposite to the demands of those who rule the world.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15483 on: December 24, 2012, 11:06:59 AM »
Zeitmaschine,
Its hard to imagine someone that cares about nobody,
SM cares about no one or if there suffering,he ran a con game for years.
Gave nothing to investors ripped them off,If you could make a small
device then it could be placed in part of
another device to power it,cell phones,small electronics,it appeals to investor greed
 you corner the market.The fake tpu's are only seen once in this investor video and never again.
why should a big device work and  a small one not, It requires a start up circuit,the smaller devices lack this,
so are fake,
also SM did not fully understand how the tpu works,so could not make a real small tpu.
My full analysis is not yet complete on the tpu,I took time off to examine the TK device
to see if its related to the tpu,it is.I believed at first it was a hoax,untill the other TK video's showed up.
The mystery of the TK device was ac output and much higher output than the tpu,the output of the tpu
is higher voltage dc.You are forgeting the time,in 1996 a lot of modern battery technology did not exist or was very expensive
this is why SM did it in this way.I've studied SM for a while,I understand how he thinks,its all about faking
you out in clever ways,then laugh at you.Is there a connecting principle that all real world free energy devices use,correct guess,all real world
 free energy devices are energy converters,converting an unknown energy source into electrical energy.
The purpose of showing the two devices could easly be faked was to remove them
from the list of working tpu's to find a common link between the real tpu's,this is to understand how this device works,
all real tpu's have common things.
Sm is very good at hiding things so the tpu is as hard to figure out as is TK's device.
The tpu device is in some ways more complex a device than the TK device and you could not
simply stumble into it,it took SM years to make it,it takes years of experiments to just half ass understand
how it works.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15484 on: December 24, 2012, 12:01:18 PM »
MUSTAFA FREE ENERGY 2.5 KW


Hi FreeEnergyInfo,

may I ask You some questions, please.

1. The name of the condensor in the middle is C pl3 ? The capacity of it is C pl3 = 60 µ Farad? It is for obtaining resonance in the middle circuit?

2. R H is a incandescent lamp? The resistence is ~ 1000 Ohm? The wattage is ~ 50 Watt?

3. On the right side is a Diode? How spell the three letters TMP? What is the specification of TMP?

Thank You and
more question will follow.

magneto_DC

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15485 on: December 24, 2012, 12:27:12 PM »
MUSTAFA FREE ENERGY 2.5 KW

Hi FreeEnergyInfo,

some more questions. :)

2.1. In the middle circuit has to be a condensor?

2.2 The transformer on the right has iron core or air? What is the ratio of the transformer, ~ 30:2000 ?

2.3 Are there two items on the right upper side, or is there only one? Is there a Gas Discharge Tube (GDT)? What are the specifications? Is there a diode and a Gas Discharge Tube?

Tank You

Regards
magneto_DC

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15486 on: December 24, 2012, 01:55:18 PM »
For example the confinement of charged particles (not conduction electrons) inside solid matter requires higher magnetic flux density for smaller radii (see the attached photo of electrons in gas being confined to a circle by a magnetic field).
Also, smaller radii lead to higher resonance frequencies and higher frequencies incur higher penalty from the skin-effect in conductive materials, possibly bringing the device below the break-even point (unity).
I see. Then this combined with this ...

The purpose of showing the two devices could easly be faked was to remove them
from the list of working tpu's to find a common link between the real tpu's,this is to understand how this device works,
all real tpu's have common things.
Sm is very good at hiding things so the tpu is as hard to figure out as is TK's device.
... means that there is no solid proof that the smaller SM devices are fake. It is one more time an assumption based on a video analysis that it could be a fake because of some »holes« in the video.

Now what if SM thought he has proven his big device beyond all doubt to be real, so he simply did not care for a watertight video when he presented the smaller devices?

reading for a load 120 watts is the same as no load
Yes, strange thing. But the stranger thing is that at 4:22 in the video SM points out this fact explicitly. So why should he do that if this behavior is just due to a hidden battery in the faked device?

What if this device simply does not behave like an ordinary transformer, therefore the output voltage stays constant regardless of the load (at least up to a certain point)?

Just considering all possibilities ...

Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15487 on: December 24, 2012, 05:14:25 PM »
Thanks  Khwartz, But I am very much a learner and always will be.  :) Although I am trying to make good measurements
and use correct terms I am still quite prone to mistakes and do appreciated being corrected, it would be difficult to learn if I can't accept corrections.
;) :)

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I don't have much money and my equipment is a big investment so I must take it slow and learn how not to ruin the expensive equipment.
Understand!

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One reason why I made the small Tesla coils so tame ie, 10 primary turns. This allows me to scope it without too much chance of damage.
I'm interested to move to using a Valve (vacuum tube) to run my larger coils in continuous wave mode so the small mosfet circuit was so I could learn some stuff about
feedback oscillators mainly, The road is long and I'm too old to hurry.  ;D
Looks good plan (but be careful for possible X-Rays from vacuum tube, ant way, a simple aluminium sheet is enough to make a good screen, as I could know.)

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While I'm waiting for LED's
IMO, you should be careful with LEDs if you use them as loads to evaluate the output power, Farmhand, pure linear receptors like resistors looks to me the only way to not miss interpret what is going on, with always 4 entries oscillo for amps and voltage, power factor measurements and so on.

Graphs of the evolution of each parameters in experiments, in my viewpoints are mostly efficient to help to detect, to spot any relationship and anomalous phenomenon by spotting possible the synchronism of events and very important: to log the set of your experiment.


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i'm thinking I will setup the two identical transformers as twin transmitters each with it's own oscillator but both connected by the secondary bottoms to
a big ground plane. I hope this will produce "beats", I will try first just powering one and letting the other oscillate on its own, but I think if both were powered it could be better.
I should be able to tune them so that I can change the frequency of the "Beat" I want it to be a low frequency beat less than 5 kHz I hope.
OK, Framhand, here are links that should interest you to economise time and efforts. They are the most serious and advanced E.M. Free Energy seekers I've found until now on the web; if it help you in any way, please Framhand, just let me know:

1.1 http://www.overunity.com/profile/konehead.26038/area/showposts/#.UNhlxqzg_Ak

Doug (konehead) is very familiar with F.E. seeking having personally known Hector Perez Torres for example, the inventor of the Rotovertor (dynamic device) and the Transvertor (static device). konehead is very about dynamic devices but you can PM him I think any time to get some help and advises.
1.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1SNYAoEak0
1.3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxbigmtDVPc

2.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPkavx1BZpo
Kurt (kdkinen) works on Don Smith device mainly but has try to integrate Thane Heins technology with interesting effects (that was my advise ;) ).

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48wSIsb6IeQ
Selfonlypath (I don't give his first name for personal life protection), knew Hector too. He is a true technician of electronics.


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Then I'll see what happens as far as making ground disturbances goes and other experiments.

To all, rest assured if by some chance I find something that is or even looks like OU (anomalous energy) or I think could lead to OU I will share it to the best of my ability.
I think you will enjoy (despite our very bad french accent ;) ) the vids series of Selfonlypath.

I have neither place nor time to replicate and test, so very nice if you can do yourself and report your results ;).

Note he very looks like to have now seriously achieved in the most professional way O.U. by capturing exceeding energy in plasma globe (the "ideal spark gap", form my own personal viewpoints ;) ) by his (?) "phantom diode effect".

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I couldn't afford a patent even if I had something and wanted to patent it so I'm all open source. Money is not nutritious to eat and is toxic to burn for heat, at any time it could be just paper or plastic.
;) But it can help to achieve things as an energy to produce things and to distribute them :) I do not believe that without industry, a F.E. system will have any true large diffusion but only for aficionadi  :(

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Cheers
Cheers too.

Khwartz

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15488 on: December 24, 2012, 05:49:53 PM »
To all!

IMHO, as Wattsup, I think that IF a F.E. seeker is true AND claims for humanity gift, if he is not perfectly clear and transparent with what he shows, he is a fake in himself, so his product too very very probably.

Aside to this, you have guys who do the exact opposite, having or not good results. Still IMHO, it can be only more efficient to focus on these last guys than on the first ones.

Any way, O.U. devices do exist and work, but not all inventors are interesting to lose all the benefit of their costly researches both financially and in time often taken on personal life. For me, it is even a negative principle to not mostly rewards those who could help others lives while producing devices and services that really help the Community and anyone to survive and we would do much better while creating an international independent foundation free energy sponsoring sustained by all free energy seekers.

Cheers, Khwartz.

FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15489 on: December 24, 2012, 07:32:23 PM »
MUSTAFA FREE ENERGY SCHEMATIC ....

www.freeenergylt.narod2.ru/anonimus_free_energy/

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tc 270 transformer ....

www.vprl.ru/index/transformatory_ts_270/0-83

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йа нимогу сам ето сделат .
ниумейу хоросо англыски ....
спасибо...

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people help to translate the audio mp3  file englix ..
ya nimogu himself UTB sdelat.
niumeyu Khoros anglyski ....
thank you ...
« Last Edit: December 24, 2012, 11:21:43 PM by FreeEnergyInfo »

Sergey77

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15490 on: December 24, 2012, 07:59:36 PM »
MUSTAFA FREE ENERGY SCHEMATIC ....

FreeEnergyInfo Здравствуйте!
 Я в курсе событий про установку Мустафы, я слушал эту аудио запись все 4 часа, я видел на вашей странице на ютубе слова Мустафы где он рассказывает суть генератора, думаю 21 декабря это и есть конец "платного" света а 22.12.2012 наступило начало свободной энергии!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AL74zKXB0C0 

 Постарайтесь перевести эту запись, это будет лучшее доказательство, люди должны понять принцип как это работает, разобраться в сути, а голые схемы как правило ничего не дают, вот когда смысл для всех будет ясен, тогда и схема понадобится!!!!!!!
 С Уважением Сергей!!!!!!!!!!!

FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15491 on: December 24, 2012, 08:31:17 PM »
FreeEnergyInfo Здравствуйте!
 Я в курсе событий про установку Мустафы, я слушал эту аудио запись все 4 часа, я видел на вашей странице на ютубе слова Мустафы где он рассказывает суть генератора, думаю 21 декабря это и есть конец "платного" света а 22.12.2012 наступило начало свободной энергии!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AL74zKXB0C0 

 Постарайтесь перевести эту запись, это будет лучшее доказательство, люди должны понять принцип как это работает, разобраться в сути, а голые схемы как правило ничего не дают, вот когда смысл для всех будет ясен, тогда и схема понадобится!!!!!!!
 С Уважением Сергей!!!!!!!!!!!

ok ...
soryyyy minimum englis spek ...

Farmhand

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15492 on: December 24, 2012, 09:07:01 PM »
MUSTAFA FREE ENERGY SCHEMATIC ....

www.freeenergylt.narod2.ru/anonimus_free_energy/

This looks like a device fairly easy to replicate, but what are the claims ?

is he claiming 200 Watts continuous input and 2.5 Kw continuous output ?

Strange claim, is anyone trying this out ?

IF this is true it is simple and exactly what is wanted in general.
There should be no hesitation from those who believe, replicate it, measure it accurately, video tape it,
share it and use it for some time to reduce the energy bill.

Free energy/OU claim, authenticate and verify it or put it to bed.
Anyone can draw a drawing and write numbers on it, if it's a claim of OU there needs to be at least some evidence.
I don't see even a shred of evidence. And I don't see how it could do what is claimed.

Cheers

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15493 on: December 24, 2012, 09:55:37 PM »
It FreeEnergyInfo above what I meant! There are many who give the scheme without any explanation how it works. People are desperate and they do not see the point in collecting other people's unproven assumptions, people are used to it and do not pay attention to such schemes. So I think that people should first find out the information and understand the operation!
When I saw this pattern, it did not give me anything new, but when I found out the nature of the work, my opinion has changed, in my experiments I have observed this effect but I could not think that this is the free energy, as sure that many people get the same thing .
Mustafa said that his entire team from different countries have repeated this experiment ..... and I believe him! As I read it a year realstrannik posts on this person that really works and does not assume!
 We must try to somehow put your record on the English language, and for this we need a person who knows English and Russian, and more versed in electronics that would not lose the meaning of words.
 I could type the text of this account on a computer, but I think that the translator will distort the meaning of the writing, because when I translate English words through an interpreter, it is not quite understand the meaning.

TheCell

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15494 on: December 24, 2012, 10:08:00 PM »
@FreeEnergyInfo

Input frequency is 50 Hz and the thyristor pulses every halfwave , then the thyristor
pulses with 100 Hz not 25 Hz.
When Voltage is zero , what sense makes it , to dump into cap.

Other question:
What Type of ferrite-core tiger use in his device ?
What is his favorite schematic?

Another question:
Aldis Masteiko uses this bifilar pancake coil on an induction heater.
Has anyone testet it and measured input and output power?

Thanks.


Входная частота 50 Гц и тиристор импульсы каждой полуволны, то тиристор
импульсов 100 Гц, а не 25 Гц.
Когда напряжение равно нулю, то какой смысл делает это, чтобы сбрасывать в конденсатором.

Другой вопрос:
Какой тип ферритовых сердечниках тигра использовать в своем устройстве?
Что является его любимой схеме?

Другой вопрос:
Алдис Мастейко использует эту бифилярными блин катушку индукционного нагревателя.
Кто-нибудь testet его и измеренной входной и выходной мощности?

Спасибо.