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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16408498 times)

Magluvin

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15270 on: December 11, 2012, 05:49:25 AM »
Works fine. UNZIP will not open, Download Extract Now. http://extractnow.com/

Hey Tek

That site download is not safe really. During the install it asks if you want to add a tool bar(forget the name) and I checked to not install the tool bar, but it did anyways and hijacked my fire fox. 

If when you are at the point in the installation where it asks yes or no, there seems to be a disclaimer just above the 'next' button that cannot be fully read. On purpose of course, but I guess they get away with it .

Hijacked my home page, didnt allow changing it. Other stuff as well.

Be careful with that one.

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« Reply #15271 on: December 11, 2012, 06:58:23 AM »
@Сергей В.

I tried that circuit to run a flyback and works well but provides no variable control so for me it is a waste of time.

About circuit, I am still doing tests and have more questions. hehehe

@all1

From what I can see, in the GB demo, those 5 x 1000 watt bulbs were never at 5000 watts illumination. I'd say 1/3rd. 5000 watts of light would be blinding bright even for a lumens compensating camera. So before i continue my investigations I need to ask you guys what you think.

The image below is taken from the GB video being their first lighting of the bulbs.

Then see this youtube of a 1000 watts bulb being lit and tell me if you agree if 5 of these were lit at full power, would you be able to see through those lights, all the guys in the background holding up the components. Let me know what you think either here or by PM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNyIAvKmGrs

@all2

Since TK did all this with only one "ground" wire, for me there in lies the main focus of the TK secret and there is really only a few more questions left to answer. One set of questions....

A) Is it easier to use an AC Hot and simulate an AC Neutral, or,
B) Is it easier to simulate an AC Hot and use an AC Neutral.

Either of these would be a great advancement.

Well, the 6.4 vac Hot answers this question for us and says it is easier to have an AC hot and simulate the neutral. So TK must have found a way to produce an isolated neutral that the AC hot can accept.  Also, we do not know what amperage is on that line and we also don't know if the frequency is at 60Hz. Some say that if the frequency was high the volt reading would not be accurate. So I did a quick test as follows.

I took my Frequency Generator (FG) positive and put it to my volt meter negative and the volt meter positive again to my ground rod. I set it at sine wave 60hz - 50% Duty and adjusted the FG amplitude to get a 6.4 vac reading on the volt meter. I then increased the frequency and here are the voltage readings.

60 Hz - 6.40 vac
121 Hz - 6.37 vac
180 Hz - 6.38 vac
240 Hz - 6.37 vac
400 Hz - 6.37 vac
1000 Hz - 6.37 vac
2 kHz - 6.39 vac
2.57 kHz - 6.40 vac
5 kHz - 6.40 vac
10 kHz - 6.40 vac
20 kHz - 6.36 vac
30 kHz - 6.30 vac
40 kHz - 6.25 vac
50 kHz - 6.21 vac
60 kHz - 6.17 vac
70 kHz - 6.10 vac
80 kHz - 6.10 vac
90 kHz - 6.12 vac
100 kHz - 6.21 vac
104 kHz - 6.29 vac
110 kHz - 6.38 vac
112 Khz - 6.41 vac
119 kHz - 6.48 vac
130 kHz - 6.54 vac
140 kHz - 6.57 vac
149 kHz - 6.47 vac
155 kHz - 6.20 vac
160 kHz - 5.64 vac
170 kHz - 1.32 vac
180 kHz - 1.17 vac
190 Khz - 0.966 vac
200 kHz - 0.775 vac

Go any higher and you're in the mV range.

I think you get the point here is that the voltage measurement accuracy can still occur at the higher frequencies so yes the black vested guy measured 6.4 vac, but it could have been at 60 Hz or 110 kHz and we would not know it. One wire transmission has always worked better at higher frequencies. Higher frequency feed means more peaks to chew on if you are interested in harvesting the peaks, more then if you had the same peaks at 60Hz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15272 on: December 11, 2012, 07:54:22 AM »
The proponents of 1-wire power transfer should enjoy these videos:
http://youtu.be/_cx-eOUjNPE
http://youtu.be/9tzga6qAaBA

Is there a reason those links are not from youtube.com but from youtu.be/????

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« Reply #15273 on: December 11, 2012, 08:14:18 AM »
I don't know who posted the original video of wave forms from old AT&T archives, but this has it in it and is very informative on waves, oscillations, impedance ect.  if you don't know much on the subject you should watch it for sure..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k

I posted a newbie question a few days ago and I know that not many on this forum do experiments anymore if at all but I had a question about transference I observed when I used the single power wire off of a MOT.  I hooked just the single power wire that has a good sting to it when I touch the spark that comes off of it and I took that and hooked it up to a pancake coil that I used speaker wire to make.  When it came out on the outside wires, the one it was hooked to had little to no energy coming out of it and the unused wire had a much larger amount of energy coming from it and it would jump a lot farther from the wire to my finger than the lead wire did before I hooked it up to the pancake speaker wire coil.  Does anyone know why that is??? 

Would it be easier for TK to use light bulbs for his demonstrations because he uses single wire transmission or is there a better explanation for why he chooses to use lights instead of something else maybe what he uses can help point in the right direction.  The interference is probably why he doesn't use electronics that would go haywire near the device??
« Last Edit: December 11, 2012, 10:08:54 AM by elementSix »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15274 on: December 11, 2012, 09:11:20 AM »
@Сергей В.

I tried that circuit to run a flyback and works well but provides no variable control so for me it is a waste of time.

About circuit, I am still doing tests and have more questions. hehehe

@all1

From what I can see, in the GB demo, those 5 x 1000 watt bulbs were never at 5000 watts illumination. I'd say 1/3rd. 5000 watts of light would be blinding bright even for a lumens compensating camera. So before i continue my investigations I need to ask you guys what you think.

The image below is taken from the GB video being their first lighting of the bulbs.

Then see this youtube of a 1000 watts bulb being lit and tell me if you agree if 5 of these were lit at full power, would you be able to see through those lights, all the guys in the background holding up the components. Let me know what you think either here or by PM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNyIAvKmGrs

@all2

Since TK did all this with only one "ground" wire, for me there in lies the main focus of the TK secret and there is really only a few more questions left to answer. One set of questions....

A) Is it easier to use an AC Hot and simulate an AC Neutral, or,
B) Is it easier to simulate an AC Hot and use an AC Neutral.

Either of these would be a great advancement.


wattsup

Firstly, having studied all the videos, I would say fairly confidently that the lamps were nowhere near max brightness.

Secondly, it is far from clear that TK used only one wire in the 'green box' and 'transparent box' videos throughout the demo sessions. It is fairly clear that two wires were used for a part of the 'green box' demo - see my earlier post.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15275 on: December 11, 2012, 11:57:56 AM »
@Hoppy, I see by your comments that you think TK is a conman running a smoke and mirrors show.
How in your opinion  did TK fool the Turks given that they had the proper resistive loads,lights, electric motor and they also had the right electronic measuring equipment and electronic experts.

I would recommend Mark Dansie to
go visit TK,Mark Dansie, from hes comments about TK's device ,thinks its a joke,and has the experience
to figure out a fraud and has experts to help carry out correct tests,he shows up on overunity once in a while,he maybe interested.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15276 on: December 11, 2012, 12:11:05 PM »
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=free+energy+devicethat+use+an+iron+plate+that+used+very+high+voltage+applied+to+it+like+30%2C000+volts&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CGgQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F7679%2Fselfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F113072%2F&ei=n_vGUPSNC8XZ0QGdiICgBA&usg=AFQjCNEgYzv7MU5B-r_Ad5tbaacXIExIng&cad=rja
This is something that was on here somewhere, Its a link to William Mcfreey's description on how NMR is used in Radiant Energy devices like TK's or Steve Mark's.  Everything we talked about, fits all the side effects of TK's device(like RF interference with neighbors electronics, the black Iron powder disks on his work table in the 2004 video that is panned over 2 in the first few moments of it.  Many other things that are a tell tale sign that NMR is the name of the game and I know everyone knows that but I thought there might be some new information in these links about what can be done to achieve it...
http://www.cis.rit.edu/htbooks/nmr/chap-7/chap-7.htm
http://www.measurement.sk/Papers3/andris-2.pdf
http://intro.phys.psu.edu/class/p559/nmr_jdm.pdf

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15277 on: December 11, 2012, 12:39:56 PM »
@Hoppy, I see by your comments that you think TK is a conman running a smoke and mirrors show.
How in your opinion  did TK fool the Turks given that they had the proper resistive loads,lights, electric motor and they also had the right electronic measuring equipment and electronic experts.

I would recommend Mark Dansie to
go visit TK,Mark Dansie, from hes comments about TK's device ,thinks its a joke,and has the experience
to figure out a fraud and has experts to help carry out correct tests,he shows up on overunity once in a while,he maybe interested.

What test equipment did the Turks use and are the test results available as I've not seen any?

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« Reply #15278 on: December 11, 2012, 12:56:46 PM »

    I just can see the switch animated.  The rest I sort of animate using imagination.  One more analogy would be a transformer.  This would utilize a low velocity high amperage current to produce a high velocity low amperage current.  I am sure we have all seen how an old mill was driven using a water wheel.  (grist mill)  By gearing the massive water wheel  to a high pressure piston pump it is possible to pump water to a heighth well above the mountain top feeding the river turning the water wheel.  The piston pump picksup water from a pond down stream from the mill race and pumps it to a point up stream of the water wheel.  As long as the pond level is maintained at a lower level than the mountaintop lake the system will self-run.  (This would be in practice impossible due to losses in the valving gearing etc.)  Now invision the system and it is raining.  The pond level will remain low as long as no rain bypasses the turbine raceway even though the magnitude of the currents increases.  The piston pump output needs to not return the water upstream but completely out of the system at a rate determined by the rain inches per hour.   Otherwise the pond fills up and the water wheel stops spinning as the system drowns.
Thank you very much for looks tobme, very interesting new analogy, sparks.

Regards, Khwartz.

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« Reply #15279 on: December 11, 2012, 02:09:02 PM »

    I just can see the switch animated.  The rest I sort of animate using imagination.  One more analogy would be a transformer.  This would utilize a low velocity high amperage current to produce a high velocity low amperage current.  I am sure we have all seen how an old mill was driven using a water wheel.  (grist mill)  By gearing the massive water wheel  to a high pressure piston pump it is possible to pump water to a heighth well above the mountain top feeding the river turning the water wheel.  The piston pump picksup water from a pond down stream from the mill race and pumps it to a point up stream of the water wheel.  As long as the pond level is maintained at a lower level than the mountaintop lake the system will self-run.  (This would be in practice impossible due to losses in the valving gearing etc.)  Now invision the system and it is raining.  The pond level will remain low as long as no rain bypasses the turbine raceway even though the magnitude of the currents increases.  The piston pump output needs to not return the water upstream but completely out of the system at a rate determined by the rain inches per hour.   Otherwise the pond fills up and the water wheel stops spinning as the system drowns.

I can't help to perceive the statement "low velocity high amperage current" as an oxymoron in regards to the current definition I = dQ/dt. But maybe i missed the point here.
You look at an (for some reason) unproportionally high density of charge carriers moving through an area, but doing so with relatively low speed compared to a low charge densitiy moving through an area at a high speed?

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« Reply #15280 on: December 11, 2012, 05:19:53 PM »
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=free+energy+devicethat+use+an+iron+plate+that+used+very+high+voltage+applied+to+it+like+30%2C000+volts&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CGgQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F7679%2Fselfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F113072%2F&ei=n_vGUPSNC8XZ0QGdiICgBA&usg=AFQjCNEgYzv7MU5B-r_Ad5tbaacXIExIng&cad=rja
This is something that was on here somewhere, Its a link to William Mcfreey's description on how NMR is used in Radiant Energy devices like TK's or Steve Mark's.  Everything we talked about, fits all the side effects of TK's device(like RF interference with neighbors electronics, the black Iron powder disks on his work table in the 2004 video that is panned over 2 in the first few moments of it.  Many other things that are a tell tale sign that NMR is the name of the game and I know everyone knows that but I thought there might be some new information in these links about what can be done to achieve it...
http://www.cis.rit.edu/htbooks/nmr/chap-7/chap-7.htm
http://www.measurement.sk/Papers3/andris-2.pdf
http://intro.phys.psu.edu/class/p559/nmr_jdm.pdf

Interesting read. IT also provides some guidance on design and tuning. Worth some effort IMO as this is not very far from where most of us are at in coil design

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« Reply #15281 on: December 11, 2012, 05:39:13 PM »
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=free+energy+devicethat+use+an+iron+plate+that+used+very+high+voltage+applied+to+it+like+30%2C000+volts&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CGgQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F7679%2Fselfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze%2Fdlattach%2Fattach%2F113072%2F&ei=n_vGUPSNC8XZ0QGdiICgBA&usg=AFQjCNEgYzv7MU5B-r_Ad5tbaacXIExIng&cad=rja
This is something that was on here somewhere, Its a link to William Mcfreey's description on how NMR is used in Radiant Energy devices like TK's or Steve Mark's.  Everything we talked about, fits all the side effects of TK's device(like RF interference with neighbors electronics, the black Iron powder disks on his work table in the 2004 video that is panned over 2 in the first few moments of it.  Many other things that are a tell tale sign that NMR is the name of the game and I know everyone knows that but I thought there might be some new information in these links about what can be done to achieve it...
...
The link above points to an old document of McFreey.
The up-to-date version can be downloaded from the PJKBook download page.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15282 on: December 11, 2012, 05:53:08 PM »
Hey Tek

That site download is not safe really. During the install it asks if you want to add a tool bar(forget the name) and I checked to not install the tool bar, but it did anyways and hijacked my fire fox. 

If when you are at the point in the installation where it asks yes or no, there seems to be a disclaimer just above the 'next' button that cannot be fully read. On purpose of course, but I guess they get away with it .

Hijacked my home page, didnt allow changing it. Other stuff as well.

Be careful with that one.

Mags
Thanks Mags, that may explain  some glitches I have with Fire Fox.

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« Reply #15283 on: December 11, 2012, 07:00:52 PM »
my thoughts are we need to know what gain medium to use before we can figure out how to excite it.

perhaps an easier gain medium to excite is barium or barium titanate. hutchison's new video shows
what he is doing with his barium tube: http://youtu.be/BQ4TuAEpQJM this link comes from sterling's site.

take care.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15284 on: December 11, 2012, 07:40:39 PM »
I'm pretty sure there is nothing cosmic about TK's concoctions.  ;D

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/12/06/double-layers-in-laboratory-and-cosmic-plasmas/

This is the first time I´ve seen an explanation of the very large being mirrored in the very small scale power generation. It relates directly to what Tesla observed in the early (sometimes lethal!) DC generators and to his choice to investigate and develop negative or natural (cold) electricity over the infinitely more finite positive, hot man-made, call it simply AC power gen., and why? Because this type of circuit is embedded in the earth, solar, cosmic circuit or transfer of electrical energies which powers the universe.  This we know is accessed by asynchronous resonance plus a few tricks a rare but increasing few are learning.

It seems to me you are looking for FREE ENERGY but in fact you doesn't want to find HER !!

Reg. Сергей В.

@all
Isn´t the reason we are participating in this forum research because we want OU and are therefore researching on this basis and not because we want to prove TK has a mains AC cable hidden up his arse?  What´s the quickest way to catch a white rabbit, not by chasing the fox surely?