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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407962 times)

Qwert

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15210 on: December 06, 2012, 04:17:35 AM »
@wattsup

Just to remind. Maybe proper clue for this thread.

http://www.overunity.com/7665/tpu-clues/msg205989/#msg205989

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15211 on: December 06, 2012, 07:24:15 AM »
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Kapanadze 2004 schematic by BASS776

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Name of thread is What can be found in Tin-can ?
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ферро-резонанс Андрея Мельниченко - свободная энергия [ferro-resonance Andrei Melnicenko - Free Energy]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djy5J0kiL58

Трансгенерация Мельниченко (transgenaration Melnicenko)
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15212 on: December 06, 2012, 03:35:23 PM »
@Qwert

Yes I remember. Also about the ether, my basic ideas are located here. Have not had time to advance it further. Finding OU is more important right now.
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.msg17#msg17

@all

Going back a few posts, I was mentioning about loading the cannon barrel. With what? Amps. I would say 6.4 volts wide by at a good level of amps deep. Hmmmmm. Now where can you get 6.4volts????

First of all, I would say drop everything and answer this one Green Box question. Why did the black vested guy (BVG) measure positive 6.4 volts when he put the negative probe to the water pipe and the positive probe to the radiator? Answer that and a big puzzle will be solved.

I am saying positive 6.4 volts because the meter did not show a negative sign and I cannot confirm yet if it was DC or AC. I have asked a Russian collaborator who is helping in translating required parts for me. He has also given a few good observations, but right now, if anyone has any info on the ammeter used in the GB, it will help enormously to identify and more importantly confirm the dial setting locations.

A few good observations from our Russian friend;

2004: Why does the plug going into the inverter output have two wires but one is longer then the other? Since when in our builds do we keep one wire longer then the other. Could be because they have to make sure they measure the good wire when measuring the amperage. Now if that inverter outputs 220vac it would not matter which wire you measure the amperage so why go to that trouble of differentiating them. Remember once I mentioned how overly concerned TK was when he plugs into the inverter. These are all important small technicalities that they had to deal with in the 2004 video and even the GB video since their components where all separated.

In the GB, TK held one of the inverter wires in his hand so the BVG would measure the amperage specifically on that wire,

They did not have all those hassles in the Aq2 device because it was fully integrated. But they still needed the ground wire and they took the effort to show it gave no shocks. But will 6.4 volts give you a shock? The guy testing that ground was obviously afraid of something by the way he was just brushing this fingers on the bolt. What a guy. hehehe

Green Box: The BVG and TK were measuring the voltage right at the GB outputs but before the GB operator (GBO) turned the second switch (first switch was on and fan was turning) he measured around 24 volts then TK said something to the GBO "turn it on" because he saw the BVG reading the 24 volts and the volts jumped to 200 something while the bulb lit up. So before the second switch, the output already had 24 volts. hehehe

Thanks @Sergey77.

Regardless of that, if any of you have a ground rod (not connected to the mains neutral) and a mains neutral or water pipe, try measuring the voltage between both and you will see what I mean. I measure 0.4 vdc and 0.1 vac on mine. Now use any other positive or negative energy source and put it on the negative probe while keeping the positive probe on your ground rod and try to figure out or try different methods, FG, pulsing, whatever, and try to find how he measured a positive 6.4 volts. Good luck. There is something important there it explains so much.

If it was 6.4 volts dc positive on a supposed ground wire, which is probably not the ground but a positive DC with a 6.4 vdc at a frequency like 100Khz then use the rest of the 2004 device or green box components to play with loading the barrel and discharging the cannon. The battery side runs the circuit and discharge, the 6.4vdc loads the barrel. I'll get into that further down.

This also could be why TK did not want to move the ground. He said we can make a device that can simulate the ground. Later he said we have simulated the ground. That's a good way of saying this....

On the other side of the water pipe, the side you do not see, we have made a device that connects to the mains and produces a positive output that is tapped to or replaces the AC neutral/ground line that connects to the water pipe.

That I believe is what it is. The device starts at the mains with one box that we never see, feeds the TK device off the water pipe and outputs the bulb brightness and the voltage and amp readings that we see.

Just read what @T-1000 said here:
http://laserhacker.com/forum/index.php?topic=70.msg888#msg888

It's hard to make a good bread with only one ingredient. hehehe

I think you should stop using the word reactive. Everything is reactive. Would you prefer to drink a reactive juice or real juice. Reactive Power is like saying Everything Power because everything is always reactive to one degree or another.

The way I see it up to now, the only reason a coil is useful is all due to bias change. A single coil can change, vary or return to its normal ambient bias. How fast and hard those changes occur determines how strong your secondary coil is bias changing to the load. Coils work by bias. Primary creates its greatest bias shift that echoes in the lamination and is reflected to the secondary. The load sees the secondary bias change and receives the difference. So in the end it is the secondary difference in bias change that the load can take.

So all the bulb wants to see after all the hoopla and hehawing is a bias change. Whether it comes from a mains to a primary to a secondary, the bulb does not care. All the bulb wants is a coil that undergoes bias change so it can shine the difference. A coil is x mass of copper regardless of how you wine it and dine it or wind it or layer it. Same copper from the mains, same in the primary, same in the secondary so again the bulb does not care.

So what if there is no primary or secondary. What if there is only one output coil that can undergo the bias changes itself, without needing any primary to impart or impress or transfer anything. If the coil atoms could change their bias with a little help, then it will perform the same task as when it is biased by another coil. How can you do that? Well you put a constant "pre-bias" of 6.4 volts on the coil that holds the atoms in a particular vector. Then you create a strong enough discharge in the coil that will instantly shift the atom vectors to a new position. When that discharge is over, the 6.4 bias will spring back the atoms to the original held vector point. You just produced great bias change without using the coupling effect.

This can happen much faster with a pre-bias then if there is not because in regular dc pulsing when it is over or off, it is the very light Earth bias that realigns the vectors and this is done much more weakly and slowly then a direct pre-bias. It's like cranking up a spring. Now, in AC the bias is swinging from high to low and is in the zero state (weak Earth bias) for a very brief moment but regardless it is going in and out of the zero state so gradually that you cannot expect any more to happen but if you want control, AC is your answer.  But what if you pre-bias the AC neutral. Hmmmmmmm.

But DC pulsed coils have a dark secret. They are only half useful and have always been. When you pulse a coil dc only half of it can really do work. I think Tesla new this and this is one reason he discovered AC. But he then realized AC also suffers as much as DC from what I am calling Half Coil Syndrome. I don't think he was 100% happy with his AC but it was the lesser of two commercial evils.

To make the total of the coil work, you would have to also change the other side of the coil pulse, meaning both sides of the coil must pulse and then receive a pre-bias when it goes off. So you would have to actually pulse two voltages in a coil successively from each side. I don't think TK got up to that level of complexity so we do have some room to better what he did once we figure it out. This applies to all other coiling ideas as well. I will develop this last method in the coming months.

The cannon barrel is the TKc. Regardless of how it is wound, it is just copper mass. In the Aq2 TK did not have to hide the ground trajectory because it gets lost in the hidden parts of the device, so his TKc can be one simple wound coil having good copper mass. In the 2004 the water pipe "supposed" ground is going to one side of the load and to one side of the TKc so he has to make it disappear into an illusion if he wants to maintain the same level of secrecy.

Let's stop here for a second to state that as far as all my experience with coils can confirm, there is no possibility for the two coils in the 2004 TKc to have any coupling ability above10 watts to maybe up to a big 50 watts maximum. You will never have 1000 watts of coupling happening between these two coils in the 2004 or GB TKc. So why the hell did he wind it that way? I any case it cannot be used for coupling because each of the two TKc coil wire ends are gong to load. For coupling usage, only the two wires from one coil would have to go to load. So the TKc is not for coupling effect. hehehe

The TKc simply needs the copper mass and he wound the 2004 TKc in that way as an excuse to send the water pipe ground to the white TKc wire and load but the white wire was then switched to the orange going inside the tin can. He made the coil to hide the fact that he is sending the water pipe, not to the tin can metal itself but to the orange wire going inside the tin can. I would say the TKc is only there to provide copper mass and so he can switch the wire midway under and hide the switching of the wires under the second and third layers. Why, because if he removed the TKc, you will see the water pipe supposed ground wire is going to the orange wire going inside the tin can and this will give away the fact that the water pipe is not carrying a ground, but a positive potential. That's why the fat guy pulled the probe out of the BVG's hand. hehehe

Out of the box all right.

Again I'm not saying TK did not get OU, but he had a little more help then we think and even then, if you add what he is hiding in his ground wire, he is still producing OU and we will remain light years away from finding out how he did it if we do not consider the ground as an energy source and not a ground.

Yes the plot thickens indeed.
I just got a PM from @Sergey77 as follows;

QUOTE
Hello wattsup!

Their conversation on the video, translated into Russian:
7:55 Six and four-tenths or 6.4.
7:58 volts or millivolts?
8:00 Volts
8:03 constant or variable?
8:05 Variable.
8:15 If I take the dipstick in the arm, and then probably will stress?
8:22 Six volt nothing
Judging by their facial expression, also showed 6 volts. They really measure alternating current at 200 volts scale.

I myself bought the exact same unit. Look at it in a larger size can be here: http://www.chipdip.ru/product/m266c.aspx

Then they again check whether the 6 volts when the install.
16:52 Let's see changed is the potential stray current when the installation.
17:32 virtually unchanged

Good luck to you! If you need something to write!
UNQUOTE

Man oh man. Now that we have the ammeter model we will have to go back and re look at the measures and how they really were taken. The fat guy says "six volt nothing". I measured 0.1 volt on my set-up that is identical. Their 6.4 vac is 64 times greater then mine. That is not nothing.

So the exercise is to remove the Earth ground from your circuit diagrams and replace that point with a 6.4 volts AC hot. That really changes the playing field. This will provide a constant dual pre-bias floating from the positive peak to the negative peak. Mix that with the impulses from the regular device and bingo, you get the results as we see them. Anyways you guys try it out and let me know. I will also do the same and report back soon enough. hehehe

wattsup

As usual, sorry for a long post.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15213 on: December 06, 2012, 05:41:19 PM »
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Kapanadze 2004 schematic by BASS776]

Thats great, I see a little of what he talks about.  Meinchenko is great too, I was wondering why he couldn't scale up his E-CORES..
That guy on realstrannik knows his stuff and looks like the Russian have beat the Americans yet again....




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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15214 on: December 06, 2012, 05:50:16 PM »
The only way we'll Know if they hit the nail on the head is if they all go missing...  I hope so..  Just fukin around,  I hope this is it because we only have about 1 month till they crash the market..

Hey Khawartz that Ghost light lasersaber circuit disappeared from everywhere I couldn't find it, do you have it or can someone post it on here.  Thanks
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 03:13:48 AM by elementSix »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15215 on: December 06, 2012, 06:10:30 PM »
@Wottsup,

IMO you have certainly reached one important conclusion and that is that the 'earth wire' is not in fact a true earth but is carrying a voltage at some potential. Let's go one step further and consider that he has a powerful low voltage AC / DC PSU (possibly battery backed with heavy duty lead acid 6V cells) run from the grid and hidden / buried somewhere. The PSU could then have been wired to the water pipe (that is in some way insulated from ground) which in turn connects to what has previously assumed to be an earth wire connected to the water pipe to feed the supply to the device. The other side of the PSU is connected to true ground through a well watered earth rod or radiator. A corresponding but hidden earth connection at the device end then provides a return to complete the circuit. the low voltage is then chopped and transformed at the device into high voltage to light the lamps. The hidden PSU would likely be located as close as possible to the device to minimise the ground distance. In the case of aqua2, the PSU outputting a much higher voltage, would likely be hidden in a pit beneath the 'earth' rod, which just leaves the method of return to be solved. IMO it would not be possible to use just one wire and in some way switch potentials at the device to allow electrons / Zippons to run up and down the wire as it were to create a flow of current, as suggested by Zeitmaschine.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15216 on: December 06, 2012, 08:29:41 PM »
@wattsup

"As usual, sorry for a long post." 

It is not long at all, It is very informative and well written. I'm enjoying it.  :D

Thanks for your effort. 8)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15217 on: December 06, 2012, 10:52:28 PM »
elementSix  wrote:

" That guy on realstrannik knows his stuff and looks like the Russian have beat the Americans yet again "

Thats because they don't have soap opers's and Honey Boo Boo.


Oh, that Hap-er I mean Hoppy

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15218 on: December 07, 2012, 01:20:34 AM »
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Сергей !

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Try downloading it. 
If you try to open it you will get an error: "Unexpected end of archive".

My downloaded file size is 973 949 bytes so it is not a failed download.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15219 on: December 07, 2012, 03:42:04 AM »
Сергей !

The attached Inogda GIFS.rar file is corrupted.
Try downloading it. 
If you try to open it you will get an error: "Unexpected end of archive".

My downloaded file size is 973 949 bytes so it is not a failed download.
Works fine. UNZIP will not open, Download Extract Now. http://extractnow.com/

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15220 on: December 07, 2012, 04:05:18 AM »
Сергей !

The attached Inogda GIFS.rar file is corrupted.
Try downloading it. 
If you try to open it you will get an error: "Unexpected end of archive".

My downloaded file size is 973 949 bytes so it is not a failed download.

Strange. I just downloaded and extracted with 7-zip, all gif's are happily working fine for me.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15221 on: December 07, 2012, 04:29:19 AM »
Has anyone ever tried this patent application for TPU like energy generator>????
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2008/0129397.html

Its got some good info on resonant circuit used with an Antenna and a ground, so you can pull the energy from them both or just the ground..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15222 on: December 07, 2012, 10:32:14 AM »
Shield and tap this radiation. By simple use of CT ,B-field from avalanche current could be tapped. Also, avalanche electrons go to the load, for example coil.
This is an example:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0188278.html
Regards,
Pix
I guess that we could mimick what is happening in the Nature, above our heads, and create Runaway Electrons expotential rise in the spark discharge :-).
http://nlpc.stanford.edu/nleht/Science/about/gurevich05phystoday.pdf
All we need is to discharge small capacitor, charged to a proper voltage , and  encapsulate it inside a proper means to capture an outcome.
Regards,
Pix

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15223 on: December 07, 2012, 11:16:21 AM »
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Why do you assume I use Unzip?
RAR files are natively created by WinRAR on Windows and rar/unrar on Linux and I would not try to use any non-native app.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #15224 on: December 07, 2012, 11:18:05 AM »
Strange. I just downloaded and extracted with 7-zip, all gif's are happily working fine for me.
What is you downloaded file size? With 1 byte accuracy...