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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 13201492 times)

Offline tagor

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14790 on: November 05, 2012, 05:27:40 PM »

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can you stop posting on this con man this is BS

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14791 on: November 05, 2012, 07:00:07 PM »
I know you have verified his claim that is why you are calling him a con man if not why talk


can somebody have an idea how to get this copper

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14792 on: November 05, 2012, 07:03:08 PM »
can somebody have idea why we can't use ordinary copper pipe ?  :o

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14792 on: November 05, 2012, 07:03:08 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14793 on: November 05, 2012, 07:03:40 PM »
Oxygen free copper is available, mostly I have seen it used for high end audio cable, also COAX cable offers this too. So could this be the cable Tariel needs for his generators?

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14794 on: November 05, 2012, 07:07:51 PM »
I think you have verified his claim that is why you are calling him a con man, if not why talk.


can somebody have any idea how to get this copper

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14795 on: November 05, 2012, 07:16:43 PM »
can somebody have idea why we can't use ordinary copper pipe ?  :o

That's a very good question.
Besides the oxygen-free copper alone isn't gonna cut it, should that have any benefit at all. And like Tinsel pointed out, the real stuff is expensive and a matter of trust to the supplier.
Without an exact circuit and not just dozens of various unrelated schematics, there is no replication possible.
What is a bit odd is why someone who has significant C.O.P. still uses the mains power to run his supposed OU device, where looping it would make the device
completely power company (or generator) independent, which is what a guy in the mountains would strive for first.
As long as the mains power is still used there is a risk of incorrect power metering due to common mode noise.  So the only real proof would be self-looping.
The guy could just drag all that power for the lamps from his power company without knowing it by just trusting a cheap power meter and not being considerate of the correct measuring procedures.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14796 on: November 05, 2012, 08:16:24 PM »
in the link below john bedini wrote :"radiant energy goes away when electrons enter the picture.Read very carefully what Tesla said about the power stations when they were DC powered ......".SM has found the idea in the writings of Tesla.Perrigo and Meyer worked at power plant at the time of  DC  ( early '900) .Kapanadze probably found the phenomenon during the tuning of DC pulsed for the production of hydrogen for his car...
http://www.icehouse.net/john1/intro.html

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14797 on: November 05, 2012, 08:51:30 PM »
That's a very good question.
Besides the oxygen-free copper alone isn't gonna cut it, should that have any benefit at all. And like Tinsel pointed out, the real stuff is expensive and a matter of trust to the supplier.
Without an exact circuit and not just dozens of various unrelated schematics, there is no replication possible.
What is a bit odd is why someone who has significant C.O.P. still uses the mains power to run his supposed OU device, where looping it would make the device
completely power company (or generator) independent, which is what a guy in the mountains would strive for first.
As long as the mains power is still used there is a risk of incorrect power metering due to common mode noise.  So the only real proof would be self-looping.
The guy could just drag all that power for the lamps from his power company without knowing it by just trusting a cheap power meter and not being considerate of the correct measuring procedures.

I found your old post and picture which is of great interest for me : http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/35586/image//
How we can arrange it with the most simple method assuming upper sinewave is from inverter 50Hz and lower is the discharge of capacitor ?  I'm looking for the simplest but reliable synchronization method.Doing it without synchronization is easy, but that's not a point here....I bet Tariel used some circuits from TV to synchronize them...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14798 on: November 05, 2012, 09:19:10 PM »
No need to make empty polemics and writings a new paradigms about oxigen free copper. The practice and experimenst are only validations of all our ideas. Remember Nikola Tesla which experimantal practice is unreachable to all of us. And from all his experiments he had got the truthful understanding on real physical processes not from pink phantasies. So experiments must be done if we are really looking for the truth.   :)

Interesting stuff is several people from independent locations, which didn't knew each other said similar informations about used oxigen free copper.
Also Kapanadze was worried about finding the proper coaxial cable. Don't tell me that in whole Georgia he coulnt find a coaxilal at all. I am sure in most undeveloped African countries you can find coaxial cables if not with easy but you will find it probably for the sure 99% success !!

I will said to you three simple Moscow Rules which can be used in any practical activities in life.

1. The first time is COINCIDENCE !!
2. The second time is MATCHING !!
3. The third time is ENEMY INTENTION !!

Remember these rules. They are very usefull in struggle for life.


Now from some other perspective - for example of physical processes in your experimensts.

1. The first time you have got some odd result in experiment. It's a COINCIDENCE !!
2. In second experiment again odd result. It's MATCHING (with fisrt) !! Right ?? Right !!
3. Well if you got in third attempt same odd result it is what ?? The LAW !! Maybe a new physical law ??

We need to learn to think on uninterruptable way with uninterruptable or infinite logic. I give you a simple example.
When we breathing we made natural inhalation of Oxigen and couple of seconds after that we made exhalation of CO2. Right ?? Right !!
Animals did it like we.
The same as Vegetation but with difference from us and animals they use for inhalation CO2 and Oxigen for exhalation. Right ?? Right !!

But what this simple example mean ?? What these processes mean in Reality ??

Well it's so simple.
In fact Oxigen is our FUTURE !! One of main reasons for continuation of our lifes. One of main sources of our life. Right ?? Right !!
In the same way we can said exactly the same for CO2 in world of Vegetation.  CO2 is main source of their life. Right ?? Right !!

For us Oxigen is the FUTURE - the life, and on the contrary  CO2 is our death. Right ?? Right !!
For Vegetation their FUTURE is for sure CO2 but our FUTURE is indubitable death for all of them.  Right ?? Right !!

So our FUTURE is for Vegetation their PAST. 
Our PAST is for Vegetation their FUTURE - THE LIFE. Right ?? Right !!

So we made inhalation of Vegetation PAST. Or we live because their PAST. And when we made exhalation of our PAST in fact we made Vegetation FUTURE !! Or they live because our PAST.  Right ?? Right !!
 
This is a very simple example of Real physical processes which control the life not only on our Planet but on many Milliard Planets in infinite Universe. And as we can see meaning of those processes are very simple and important in Protecting and Saving the Life of all Organic forms in Universe but in same time extremelly complicated in theur essences. It's like neverending story of Life and Death in our Universe (and in other Universes).

On the same way duality was presented in the whole universe on all levels of matter. Subatomic particles exist everywhere in our Universe and if we made OU Generator in Russia he will work on the same way in the Africa or everywhere in our Universe (very probably ??). So for me all these processes are like infinite running on the circle but in every new times that circle is not the same. Uninterruptable logic and Uninterruptable way of thinking desn't mean Stereotype Logic but contrary Infinite Logic or Creative Logic and it's the only one process which can help us to open hiddem doors of our reality which has infinite dimensins and new infinite LIFES !! So if you want to learn and undestand something new don't look on it with physical eyes but with mind which is in Fact our 3rd eye and given to us by she's majesty MOTHER NATURE which is only one dignified for further examinations and understanding !!

ps. In my opinion!

Regards Сергей В.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14798 on: November 05, 2012, 09:19:10 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14799 on: November 05, 2012, 09:47:52 PM »
That's a very good question.
Besides the oxygen-free copper alone isn't gonna cut it, should that have any benefit at all. And like Tinsel pointed out, the real stuff is expensive and a matter of trust to the supplier.
Without an exact circuit and not just dozens of various unrelated schematics, there is no replication possible.
What is a bit odd is why someone who has significant C.O.P. still uses the mains power to run his supposed OU device, where looping it would make the device
completely power company (or generator) independent, which is what a guy in the mountains would strive for first.
As long as the mains power is still used there is a risk of incorrect power metering due to common mode noise.  So the only real proof would be self-looping.
The guy could just drag all that power for the lamps from his power company without knowing it by just trusting a cheap power meter and not being considerate of the correct measuring procedures.
How true what you have stated! My friend.

No True RMS meters, no Reactive Volt Amp measurement, this is what I see everywhere, and so, nobody could know "there is something" or "not"; what a waste of time and ENERGY (!).

And yes, COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU: unless selfloop, completely unplug of any power supply, hard to be sure there is any overunity :/

I just wish our experimenters will get with time more and more "professionalism", so we could have some hope to go somewhere...

But I've found one YouTube who looks to care. I will post you just after a link toward his chanel.

Cheer, Khwartz.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14800 on: November 05, 2012, 09:55:55 PM »
Here the name of one of his vid: "Rotoverter Load Input Test". His nickname his PMMG4HYBRID. Regards.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14801 on: November 05, 2012, 10:52:58 PM »
I found your old post and picture which is of great interest for me : http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/35586/image//
How we can arrange it with the most simple method assuming upper sinewave is from inverter 50Hz and lower is the discharge of capacitor ?  I'm looking for the simplest but reliable synchronization method.Doing it without synchronization is easy, but that's not a point here....I bet Tariel used some circuits from TV to synchronize them...

Yep anybody worked with vertical and horizontal sync ????

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14802 on: November 05, 2012, 11:00:09 PM »
How true what you have stated! My friend.

No True RMS meters, no Reactive Volt Amp measurement, this is what I see everywhere, and so, nobody could know "there is something" or "not"; what a waste of time and ENERGY (!).

And yes, COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU: unless selfloop, completely unplug of any power supply, hard to be sure there is any overunity :/

I just wish our experimenters will get with time more and more "professionalism", so we could have some hope to go somewhere...

But I've found one YouTube who looks to care. I will post you just after a link toward his chanel.

Cheer, Khwartz.

Regarde ben, si l'entrée est @ 120-130 W ( 220 V ) pis a la sortie j'ai 2000 W alimenté steady, je m'en fous comment c'est fait entre les 2, pour du chauffage c'est suffisant, le probleme avec le site, y a trop de penseur pas de faiseur..... that's it.  Cé ben simple pour 120 W en entrée tu as 2200 W en sortie peu importe le voltage a la sortie ( peut etre pas @ 4000 V ) mais cé quand meme 2200 W de chauffage.... cé pas dure a comprendre.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14803 on: November 06, 2012, 12:15:28 AM »
So experiments must be done if we are really looking for the truth.   :)
Then how about using 1000 ampere diodes for locomotives like Stepanov to make experiments for the truth? :D

Here the question would be, why 4 diodes (like Kapanadze)? Are these diodes connected as diode bridge to get DC from AC or are they connected in parallel, so they are suitable for 4000 amps of current? Or are they connected in some other way? What would be the most logical assumption? Either they are connected as ordinary diode bridge or the number 4 must have here a different but fundamental meaning!? (Stepanov needs surely no DC for a phony high voltage spark oscillator)

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And yes, a thyristor on such a heat sink looks almost the same ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14804 on: November 06, 2012, 12:36:25 AM »
Tu as raison, si c'est bien du 130 VA en entrée, déjà, et non des Watts, car problème  c'est que tu peux avoir 130 Watts et 2000 VA en entrée, surtout avec l'utilisation de condensateurs ou d'inductances.

Cela dit, si c'était pour moi que tu parlais de théoricien et pas assez de praticien, sache quand même que l'électricité c'est une de mes spécialité professionnelles, non pas seulement en tant que théoricien, mais en tant que le gars que l'on appelle lorsque tout le monde "sèche" lors d'un dépannage sur site.

Et à propos, avec tes expérimentations, combien de personnes as-tu concrètement aidées à améliorer leur vie ? Combien as-tu sacrifié d ton temps cette année, sur le terrain, comme cette année pour moi aux Philippines, pour se faire?...

Ce n'est pas parce que ton interlocuteur se concentre sur des points essentiels de méthodologie indispensables pour arriver à un minimum de crédibilité, mais surtout d'efficacité, que celui-ci n'est pas capable de faire autre chose que de la théorie ... ;)


 

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