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Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze  (Read 16407058 times)

Zeitmaschine

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14266 on: October 02, 2012, 08:05:53 AM »
The following device has a lot in common with the Teriel device. 
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/autogenU1.htm
Load that page into Google Chrome and it will be translated to English for you automatically.



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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14267 on: October 02, 2012, 08:20:12 AM »
The penny just dropped. CLANG!  Kapanadze is shaking the ground! That's the resonated. Only he's doing it electronically.
Here's an experiment I did. Mains live into a 60 watt lightbulb into a 2 meter earth rod. Result? 40 watts consumed ( According to my my wattmeter ) bulb lit to 80 watt brightness. In fact the power was so high that I blew a 25 watt microwave oven light bulb in a previous experiment. (The neutral was not used - lol)
Thanks guys.

Wow, all you need to do now is trick the electricity meter  :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14268 on: October 02, 2012, 08:51:20 AM »
The following device has a lot in common with the Teriel device. 
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/autogenU1.htm
Load that page into Google Chrome and it will be translated to English for you automatically.
And seems to work on the same principle like this russian (Zatsarinin) transformer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH2TWPJiwEA
If TK has his ground cable indeed all the way through the core, this principle could apply and he would have "magically"
a current flow on his ground wire connected to the load ...
 

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14269 on: October 02, 2012, 09:05:02 AM »
The following device has a lot in common with the Teriel device. 
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/autogenU1.htm
Load that page into Google Chrome and it will be translated to English for you automatically.

look at this thread
 
http://www.overunity.com/12639/richard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity/msg338519/#msg338519

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14270 on: October 02, 2012, 11:46:45 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o&feature=related


 Hmmm...
Tesla would never have wasted the current flow charging the capacitor.  He would have used the current to charge the capacitor to drive a load by installaing a current transformer on each leg of the capacitor leads.  Then he would have flipped the capacitor over and shorted it back into the battery again using the reverse current to drive a load.  He regularly used an electrical capacitor as a spring and built highspeed mechanical oscillators to build "Earthquake machines"

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14271 on: October 02, 2012, 12:49:06 PM »

1V on 1Ω = 1A, 1V × 1A = 1W, 220V on 220Ω = 1A, 1A × 220V = 220W, 5000W ÷ 220W = 22.73, 220Ω ÷ 22.73 = 9.68Ω

Thus Kapanadze's five 1KW lamps should have a combined parallel resistance of 9.68Ω, that means the voltage source (in the tin can) should have no higher resistance than that. If the voltage source is a coil then this is not the DC resistance but the apparent resistance (impedance) at 50Hz.

So, what's next? :)

Grate work!!!

Calculate the active resistance of the secondary winding of the transformer Kapanadze in the bank.
The formula to calculate the following

where S - square of wire
L - length of the winding wires
0.0175 - resistivity of copper
For simplicity, in your case, we assume that the primary of the transformer consists of 344 turns. one volt/one turn  . Then the secondary winding consists of 220 turns on it that would be 220 ​​volts.
Suppose that the winding is wound on the transformer core with a radius equal to 25 mm. Then the length of the one turn of secondary winding will be equal to 2 * 3.14 * 0.025 = 0.05785 m
Then, the total length of the wire of the secondary winding of the transformer will be 220 * 0.05785 = 12.727 m
We assume that the secondary winding of the transformer is wound with wire 2.5 mm2 that would pass current 25 A.
Then the active resistance of the secondary winding is equal to R = 0.0175 * 12.727/2.5 = 0.09 ohms.

much less than the load active resistance ;)
Although I may be wrong

More about what you should consider: the higher the frequency the greater the Q

Ie higher the voltage on the primary winding of the transformer, means more reactive power.


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14272 on: October 02, 2012, 12:49:28 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14273 on: October 02, 2012, 01:03:44 PM »
Grate work!!!

Calculate the active resistance of the secondary winding of the transformer Kapanadze in the bank.
The formula to calculate the following

where S - square of wire
L - length of the winding wires
0.0175 - resistivity of copper
For simplicity, in your case, we assume that the primary of the transformer consists of 344 turns. one volt/one turn  . Then the secondary winding consists of 220 turns on it that would be 220 ​​volts.
Suppose that the winding is wound on the transformer core with a radius equal to 25 mm. Then the length of the one turn of secondary winding will be equal to 2 * 3.14 * 0.025 = 0.05785 m
Then, the total length of the wire of the secondary winding of the transformer will be 220 * 0.05785 = 12.727 m
We assume that the secondary winding of the transformer is wound with wire 2.5 mm2 that would pass current 25 A.
Then the active resistance of the secondary winding is equal to R = 0.0175 * 12.727/2.5 = 0.09 ohms.

much less than the load active resistance ;)
Although I may be wrong

More about what you should consider: the higher the frequency the greater the Q

Ie higher the voltage on the primary winding of the transformer, means more reactive power.
That would be the ohmic part, in the case of AC in the secondary the impedance has to be considered as well ...

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14274 on: October 02, 2012, 02:45:59 PM »
Tesla would never have wasted the current flow charging the capacitor.  He would have used the current to charge the capacitor to drive a load by installaing a current transformer on each leg of the capacitor leads.  Then he would have flipped the capacitor over and shorted it back into the battery again using the reverse current to drive a load.  He regularly used an electrical capacitor as a spring and built highspeed mechanical oscillators to build "Earthquake machines"


 What are you talking about? I showed a bifilar coil being energized with zero current driving a loaded coil/ferrite in the core.


 If you were talking about The other Hmmm... Then I would have to agree. Anyways a battery doesn't put out negative or positive electrons. Think of the wire as a static surface. The positive gets sucked to one end when in circuit. This is exactly how a cap works to. The positive electrons in the metal plates get moved to one side and the lack of electrons on the other side of that plate.


 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Electrostatic_induction.svg/440px-Electrostatic_induction.svg.png

 Current is the charges contained in the material. The electrostatic voltage must be present for current or charges to move. Charges that are moving is called current and can and will have a magnetic or sympathetic movement of charges outside the body(magnetic).

 This is exactly what is happening and why we are missing part of the puzzle. we have ignored the electric and only concentrated on the magnetic.

 In most of our traditional circuits we have to complete the path or close loop the device to get it to work. But my example of what is going on completely explains this young mans experiment with the bifilar coil and load.

 again replicate this yourself and see.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o&feature=related

 Now even in his description he mistakenly says they are magnetically coupled which they are not because there is zero current flow in the bifilar coil. This is an electrostatic capacitance coupling. A very different beast all together. But as you have seen it can and will drive a magnetic load (wire closed looped plus magnetic ferrite core closed looped to a load). If there is no current in the bifilar coil then there is zero magnetic field.

 If we take this one step further we could put the open coils into a toroid and drive this to infinity if one wanted. No current would be used from the source and yet I believe it can power larger loads. I will be working on this concept since it already shows OU type action and a perfect separation of the source to load.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2012, 03:49:02 PM by jbignes5 »

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14275 on: October 02, 2012, 04:13:57 PM »

 What are you talking about? I showed a bifilar coil being energized with zero current driving a loaded coil/ferrite in the core.


 If you were talking about The other Hmmm... Then I would have to agree. Anyways a battery doesn't put out negative or positive electrons. Think of the wire as a static surface. The positive gets sucked to one end when in circuit. This is exactly how a cap works to. The positive electrons in the metal plates get moved to one side and the lack of electrons on the other side of that plate.


 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Electrostatic_induction.svg/440px-Electrostatic_induction.svg.png

 Current is the charges contained in the material. The electrostatic voltage must be present for current or charges to move. Charges that are moving is called current and can and will have a magnetic or sympathetic movement of charges outside the body(magnetic).

 This is exactly what is happening and why we are missing part of the puzzle. we have ignored the electric and only concentrated on the magnetic.

 In most of our traditional circuits we have to complete the path or close loop the device to get it to work. But my example of what is going on completely explains this young mans experiment with the bifilar coil and load.

 again replicate this yourself and see.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o&feature=related

 Now even in his description he mistakenly says they are magnetically coupled which they are not because there is zero current flow in the bifilar coil. This is an electrostatic capacitance coupling. A very different beast all together. But as you have seen it can and will drive a magnetic load (wire closed looped plus magnetic ferrite core closed looped to a load). If there is no current in the bifilar coil then there is zero magnetic field.

 If we take this one step further we could put the open coils into a toroid and drive this to infinity if one wanted. No current would be used from the source and yet I believe it can power larger loads. I will be working on this concept since it already shows OU type action and a perfect separation of the source to load.

@JBigness : Highly interesting video. I had tried bifilar coils connected this way also, but at way lower frequencies basically during the muller motor experiments. So the injected frequency was never equal to the natural resonance frequency of the coil and at that time unfortunately showed no effect..
Luckily YT-user lyudkasvk had better luck. This would indeed be a proof of concept of the ideas you have been presenting.

If this effect is of a pure capacitive nature, i wonder if the ferrite could be omitted and you would get the same effect.
The ferrite's function would be merely to increase the inductance of the pickup coil and increase the magnetic coupling.
But exactly that should be negligible in a capacitive transformer. Except of course for some reason there is
a magnetic field formed anyway.
I hope you will be able to shed light on this in your experiments and wish you good luck with it.

Edit: The issue with the DC amp-meter on an AC signal-gen lead is a weak spot in the presentation, but it still does not refute that there is a seemingly anomalous transformation going on.

@Collapsingfield also has a good point just looking at it as an AC cap that is charged an discharged while exhibiting an inductance being coiled.
A proper AC current measurement will show if there is something to it eventually.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14276 on: October 02, 2012, 04:22:37 PM »
@JBigness, there is magnetic action as well. It is almost the same as a coaxial coil drived at the two ends, braid one side, core wire the other side. This "capacitor" has distributed inductance and capitance too. Current has to flow at the filling and discharging of this special "capacitor". And certainly there is a resonance freq of the  distributed LC system.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14277 on: October 02, 2012, 05:16:52 PM »



 I agree That there is magnetic interaction but only after the electric field has been established. As for the inductance and capacitance they are moot because they cancel each other out. Hence why there is zero current flowing in the bifilar coil. I also agree that current will flow but it seems to be it is negligible current to fill that capacitor and probably is compensated for by the inductance before it is canceled out by the capacitance.


 It's funny but I think this new type of capacitor only needs a potential difference that is oscillating to setup a oscillation within the cap coil.


 The points about the ferrite rod could be explained by the conversion of the bifilar coil into the electric field. This is the very same concept I think that should run the Tesla Motor/generator. Somehow this concept is used in that design.


 I am starting tests atm so time will tell and it should bring about a much different style of motor generator as well. As for the discharging of the cap portion I'm not to sure that it does discharge at all. It seems to me they are swapping the charges back and forth in the manner I stated by the electrostatic laws. Only the ends change polarity and that is compounded by the coiling of the bifilar and enhanced by the capacitance.


 Like I said time will tell..

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14278 on: October 02, 2012, 05:38:02 PM »

 What are you talking about? I showed a bifilar coil being energized with zero current driving a loaded coil/ferrite in the core.


 If you were talking about The other Hmmm... Then I would have to agree. Anyways a battery doesn't put out negative or positive electrons. Think of the wire as a static surface. The positive gets sucked to one end when in circuit. This is exactly how a cap works to. The positive electrons in the metal plates get moved to one side and the lack of electrons on the other side of that plate.


 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Electrostatic_induction.svg/440px-Electrostatic_induction.svg.png

 Current is the charges contained in the material. The electrostatic voltage must be present for current or charges to move. Charges that are moving is called current and can and will have a magnetic or sympathetic movement of charges outside the body(magnetic).

 This is exactly what is happening and why we are missing part of the puzzle. we have ignored the electric and only concentrated on the magnetic.

 In most of our traditional circuits we have to complete the path or close loop the device to get it to work. But my example of what is going on completely explains this young mans experiment with the bifilar coil and load.

 again replicate this yourself and see.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI1CPBSm-o&feature=related

 Now even in his description he mistakenly says they are magnetically coupled which they are not because there is zero current flow in the bifilar coil. This is an electrostatic capacitance coupling. A very different beast all together. But as you have seen it can and will drive a magnetic load (wire closed looped plus magnetic ferrite core closed looped to a load). If there is no current in the bifilar coil then there is zero magnetic field.

 If we take this one step further we could put the open coils into a toroid and drive this to infinity if one wanted. No current would be used from the source and yet I believe it can power larger loads. I will be working on this concept since it already shows OU type action and a perfect separation of the source to load.
Jbigness it was the other hmmmm :)
 
      I know an electric field can do work and the way to have it do work without decreasing the intensity of the accelerating force field.  I just bought a microwave and will be cannibalizing it to replicate an experiment I did awhile ago.  The last one I recorded temperature drop of the feed gas  that showed an efficiency of about 20percent in converting thermal energy into electrical energy.  I didn't have much time then and less now but I'll try to squeeze it in and upload the experiment for review by you all.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14279 on: October 03, 2012, 12:59:59 AM »
QUOTE from jbignes5:      Hmmm...

I checked out the you-tube video that you posted and applied it to the SR193 (two transformer test that I showed on page 954 (Reply 14167) with much better results.  TEST Results of Post Reply 14167:
1. When the HV pulse occurred, the light would get brighter, but T1's core would saturate, and the input current would go from 45ma to 480ma.
2. Two 15 uf capacitors on T1s primary was necessary for the effect to occur.
3. The maximum wattage light bulb that could be lit to 100% was (4 watts).

Below is an attachment showing the preliminary test results with transformer T1 wired smiler to the bifilar coil shown in the you-tube video that you referenced to in your post.