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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14010 on: September 18, 2012, 08:07:59 PM »
I feel the same way about the abandonment of the Yoke device.
It is so easy to distract this thread that it is an ideal supression tactic.

A separate thread for the Dally device may be the best solution so as not to continue disruption of this thread. Until the Dally device can be linked operationally with the TK devices, it can be reasonably considered as a different device.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14011 on: September 18, 2012, 08:25:08 PM »
Since both device are similar, but yet different..  I have created new thread called "Kapanadze Cousin - DALY FREE ENERGY" for Dally related posts.

it is located here: >http://www.overunity.com/solid-state-devices/<

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14012 on: September 18, 2012, 09:37:53 PM »





 Thanks for clearing to thread to discuss and experiment on the TK devices.


 As a researcher I am always looking for credible references to the magnetic and electric fields. Recently there has been a great many references to real experiments in even outer space. It was long thought that magnetic and electric fields in space was in no way credible but as this video will discuss this idea is changing.


 [size=78%]http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09/16/electricity-hiding-behind-dark-matter/[/size]


 I know this discusses dark matter but the points we should be looking at is that there is very credible information out there that magnetic and electric fields exist everywhere. Please ig nore the fopah they make in saying electromagnetic field. I know that both can not exist without the other but I believe that magnetic fields can only be associated with matter itself whereas the electric field can exist anywhere there is a magnetic source. It is tied to the source but reaches out very far to seek other sources. Hench the filaments they talk about.


 [size=78%]http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/01/06/corona-discharges/[/size]


 This article talks about roughly the same thing as further reference.


 Now how does this relate to the TK devices. Well lets think about the statement that the electric field seeks out magnetic sources. That even includes charged particles. This seeking once completed sucks the charge along the electric pathway back to the highest source of the electric field. In extreme cases this is the spark or arc we see.


 Since the device we have been looking at (coil within the coil) has a spark gap it could be easily concluded that this action is attracting charged particles into the gap and then released into the radiator coil or thick copper coil. This is a very simple action and what tK was referring to as the simple method.


 Lets just replicate that device to see if this is the method instead of postulating about everything. We have the video to go by so it shouldn't be that hard to replicate. Yes there are some hidden parts like what in the can but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what needs to be shielded by that can. I'm thinking it is a source for the transistors timing. The shielding has to be to shield that source and keep it as pure as possible.

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« Reply #14013 on: September 18, 2012, 10:06:03 PM »
I feel the same way about the abandonment of the Yoke device.
It is so easy to distract this thread that it is an ideal supression tactic.

The yoke device is not abandoned.

The solution to eliminate health affecting emissions seems are accomplished by people.
Aleksander Romanov - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eKi7ol12c4#t=0h44m0s
Dally - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBEHOOsxT4#t=0h21m12s

All those devices got same building blocks: One signal for transformer and second signal for causing havoc and making OU conditions.
So you need to learn this bit then there will be much more convienent way to explain how all those devices work.

P.S> Also I copied my previous posts into Dally thread.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14014 on: September 18, 2012, 10:29:09 PM »



 As a side note I wanted to link this very interesting report so that you might understand the concept of the electric field better and the vastness of that field.


 [size=78%]http://www.kronos-press.com/juergens/k0801-electric-i.htm[/size]

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14015 on: September 19, 2012, 12:20:33 AM »
Since the device we have been looking at (coil within the coil) has a spark gap it could be easily concluded that this action is attracting charged particles into the gap and then released into the radiator coil or thick copper coil. This is a very simple action and what tK was referring to as the simple method.
On the other hand it could be concluded that the whole thing with the TK spark gap and the TK helical coil is fake.

In the 2004 video at 17:31 the spark is visible. At 17:54 the clamp-on ammeter shows 0.5 amps (up to 0.6 amps) while the lamps are on, so the device seems fully functional.

Then at 20:44 there is no visible spark but nevertheless all five 1000 watt lamps are brightly lit as seen before while the clamp-on ammeter shows only 0.3 amps at 21:05. Hence the conclusion can only be that the device now is not fully working. In fact the high voltage generator seems to be off, so the device consumes only around half the input power as before. Strangely this does not affect the power output to the lamps.

Now, if the spark has no vital function (as it seems) then the helical coil has no function, then the two transistors on the heat sinks have no function, then the cables on the bobbin have most likely also no function. Then the energy has to be generated by that what is left, and that is not quite much.

Holmes: "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

Free Energy from an old Sadolin can is highly improbable, but nevertheless it must be the truth. :D ::)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14016 on: September 19, 2012, 12:30:56 AM »
Since both device are similar, but yet different..  I have created new thread called "Kapanadze Cousin - DALY FREE ENERGY" for Dally related posts.
it is located here: >http://www.overunity.com/solid-state-devices/<

@27Bubba

Good move. We will follow it there. Others may want to migrate their post here to there to get it going.

All those devices got same building blocks: One signal for transformer and second signal for causing havoc and making OU conditions.
So you need to learn this bit then there will be much more convienent way to explain how all those devices work.
P.S> Also I copied my previous posts into Dally thread.

@T-1000

I am really happy to read the word "havoc". Seems like I have used this word since 5 years now and at least someone else is using it. So you are saying there are two signals. So if we look at the Aq2 unit, let's try to extrapolate.

1) One signal to drive the transformer. This would be the signal sent to the triple transformer primary that feeds the HV+ to the TKc.

2) One signal to create the havoc causing OU conditions. If this is to be considered in the physicality of the Aq2 device, the only place there is room for a second signal is the two other triple transformer coils but knowing which end is used for the signal will be the difficult part. Given that all three transformers have their mid-range coils in parallel and given the HV- of the output coil is going to those parallel coils, this is a good way to create the havoc as I had referred to in one of my past posts.

But those two transformer HV+ lines are going to the coily coils (CoCo) where we know the center coil is grounded on one end and the other end we do not see. It is possible that one line of the center coil is going to the CoCo and/or also inside the TKc pipe to connect to the coax. It is too bad the @a.king21 group never looked inside the TKc pipe. They could have a small spark gap inside there as I have found that at certain frequencies, a spark gap enables lighting of the output bulb. But this is all preliminary.

Also, I have done some tests with two HV flyback on the coax build and have not been able to create the havoc condition as yet but will be trying more methods tonight. The only thing is I always am trying to respect the limitations of the Aq2 build and potential connection methods. Right now I am concentrating on the TKc as seen wound with one coax line as we know it. I am trying to see what makes it tick.

I will make a youtube soon to show some of this.

Also, if you can find anyone in Russia that has the specs for the triple transformer, this would be the greatest help in advancing our understanding as it would enable us to make a much tighter set of working principles that we could then work to recreate on the bench as isolated trials.

@Zeitmaschine

Just saw you post. I will look at it and investigate.

wattsup


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14017 on: September 19, 2012, 12:49:22 AM »
@Zeitmaschine
,very correct,the coils,hv,spark gap and ground do nothing its to hid the real device
and pretend its a Tesla invention.This forum is going into chaos
as it is going with,its a Tesla invention are you blind,its a fraud can't you see,
this is just like TK's device,its magic,the blind leading the blind.You have already seen the real component,the strange transformer,
can you cross the bridge,"how can the wire of a transformer that can at most pass 1 amp,pass 9 amps and not burn up".
If you can't pass this then you go in a circle,as is happening here.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14018 on: September 19, 2012, 05:35:43 AM »
On the other hand it could be concluded that the whole thing with the TK spark gap and the TK helical coil is fake.

In the 2004 video at 17:31 the spark is visible. At 17:54 the clamp-on ammeter shows 0.5 amps (up to 0.6 amps) while the lamps are on, so the device seems fully functional.

Then at 20:44 there is no visible spark but nevertheless all five 1000 watt lamps are brightly lit as seen before while the clamp-on ammeter shows only 0.3 amps at 21:05. Hence the conclusion can only be that the device now is not fully working. In fact the high voltage generator seems to be off, so the device consumes only around half the input power as before. Strangely this does not affect the power output to the lamps.

Now, if the spark has no vital function (as it seems) then the helical coil has no function, then the two transistors on the heat sinks have no function, then the cables on the bobbin have most likely also no function. Then the energy has to be generated by that what is left, and that is not quite much.

Holmes: "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

Free Energy from an old Sadolin can is highly improbable, but nevertheless it must be the truth. :D ::)


 What it is, is this. What is the frame rate off the camera showing the video? Duh 30 hz max. In fact the video was processed by youtube and you think this is the whole truth. Listen buddy if you don't know about frame rates and how they mess with frequency visuals then you are a moron at best proving absolutely nothing on your assumption and lame attempts to discredit this process.


 Has everyone gone bananas? The first thing is that the video is already poor quality and then to boot you go through the compression of youtube which also messes with the frame rates and quality further. You have proved nothing in your assumptions absolutely nothing.


 Why do I have to bring up the most obvious things because you think everyone is so idiotic like you? Why exactly do you think we see video smearing stripes coming from leds when captured by a newer video camera? Do you actually think the smearing stripe is really there?


 What is fake is the obvious attempt of some of the members to discredit this device by fraud. You are frauding the rest of us by even suggesting that what you have shown is proof.


 Let me show you something ok...


 Rather poor quality video with time laps at the end to show the sounds of sparks but almost no ignition of the water on the video end:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bMZ_pD-Jug


 So please stop with trying to say the spark ends after a point. It doesn't. It just isn't within the frame rate of the camera that was capturing it and of course then you add youtube compression and processing as well..


 If you think this is a fraud then *points at the forum main link* You know where to go... Stop with this constant bashing and leave the research to the ones who think it is very credible.


 P.S. I'm sorry for using words like moron and stupid but I am getting very tired of all this junk science you guys fling and say it is credible proof. It proves NOTHING.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14019 on: September 19, 2012, 05:48:54 AM »
@Zeitmaschine

I am verifying what you just posted but I have one major problem.

My 2004 video only goes up to 14:16 so I don't know where you got video up to the 17:?? mark.

Could you please point me to the youtube of the one you are using.

@cheappower2012

We are all here for the truth so don't go around calling people blind. Blind is when someone refuses to be open to all the possibilities. Every time a @member reports any anomaly you just pounce and post this stuff but it is nothing new. Bring us some facts.

We are not all absolute authorities on what a wire can or cannot handle. There is a question of frequency. At 60Hz, yes, that wire should toast, but at higher frequencies, neither I nor you are any authority to just dismiss something as an impossibility without hard facts. So I invite you to plan and do a comparison study of the same energy through a wire, one at 60Hz and another at 5kHz and another at 10kHz and show us the facts. Then, if you are right, you can spread your gospel.

@jbignes5

No need to  lose your cool, since @Zeitmaschine brings in a good observation that needs to be clarified without jumping to conclusions. Yes the videos are crap and that is the reality. What else is new.

wattsup

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14020 on: September 19, 2012, 07:43:54 AM »
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« Reply #14022 on: September 19, 2012, 01:20:09 PM »
Has everyone gone bananas? The first thing is that the video is already poor quality and then to boot you go through the compression of youtube which also messes with the frame rates and quality further. You have proved nothing in your assumptions absolutely nothing.
What has the frame rate of the video to do with the readings of the ammeter which are clearly visible? ??? ???

In fact during the second run there is a transformer (in a black box below the table) connected in parallel in ADDITION to the lamps which loads the car battery (back loop).  But instead of drawing higher amps the amps consumed by the device go even down. Strangely also the amps at the output. During the second run (back loop) the meter shows 24.0 amps (at 21:26), during the first run (without back loop) it shows 25.1 amps (at 18:22). Could this mean that the interaction with the additional inductance of the back loop transformer makes the device supply less amps?

Maybe Kapanadze could provide us kindly with a higher res video inclusive translation. :)

My 2004 video only goes up to 14:16 so I don't know where you got video up to the 17:?? mark.
The link is in my post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14023 on: September 19, 2012, 02:56:38 PM »
What has the frame rate of the video to do with the readings of the ammeter which are clearly visible? ??? ???

In fact during the second run there is a transformer (in a black box below the table) connected in parallel in ADDITION to the lamps which loads the car battery (back loop).  But instead of drawing higher amps the amps consumed by the device go even down. Strangely also the amps at the output. During the second run (back loop) the meter shows 24.0 amps (at 21:26), during the first run (without back loop) it shows 25.1 amps (at 18:22). Could this mean that the interaction with the additional inductance of the back loop transformer makes the device supply less amps?
Maybe Kapanadze could provide us kindly with a higher res video inclusive translation. :)
The link is in my post. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE
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@Zeitmaschine

Thanks for the link. I don't know why but I tried downloading the video with my Naevius converter but it says there is an error although I can see it on youtube.

The black transformer output is connected to the battery so it is feeding back some or all of the battery expended energy back to the battery. Again I will have to look closer at this tonight.

@Сергей В.

Thank you very much for that great web site. The dual transformer you show is close but we need to find the exact triple model.

I am putting up a close up of the triple transformer model number that is in russian.
Can you please type the model number in a post so we can copy and paste the russian characters to do a direct search.

@all

Also I am putting up again the ohms values given by @Bernhard. Can any EEer look at these values and try to extrapolate any comparable input to output values of step up ratios. This would be the minimal info required if we cannot find the exact model spec.

wattsup

PS: Let's just get back to work on the TK devices but of course we need to work together with thanks.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #14024 on: September 19, 2012, 04:13:03 PM »





 I do apologize for my response but lets try to figure this out instead of just assuming it's a fraud.


 Let me show you a credible replication.


 [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=atlnVNy0IDE[/size]


 Very nice replication at that. And like I have said before it is a ground loop method. As explained in this video.