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Offline verpies

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13935 on: September 15, 2012, 05:07:02 PM »
Because output power depends of frequency and see one ATX inside and there you will see that capacitor is 1uF/400V!
Not even wrong.
The output power of this power supply depends on the transistor (2SC4106) switching frequency in the least.

It is much more dependent on the duty cycle of the waveform applied to primary winding as well as current applied to the primary.
The TL494 is not a Frequency Modulator (FM), it is a Pulse Width Modulator (PWM), which means that it accomplishes its regulating function by modulating the width of the pulses applied to the primary (a.k.a. variable duty-cycle).

The core's cross-sectional area, its permeability and saturation limit impose the engineering upper limit on the power transformation capacity of the T3 transformer.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13936 on: September 15, 2012, 06:41:32 PM »
24 сектора на 1 оборот ~ 300 кгц прерываний , движок 11000-33000 оборотов.

Плоская катушка с нее съем.

Магнитные сектора залить эпоксидной смолой, не улетели. Для безшумного режима жесткий диск от компьютера, с драйвером , от него зависит выходная мощь, чем выше частота, тем больше тока.  Драйвером можно управлять программно, с заранее заложеными параметрами скорости вращения под конкретную нагрузку (Чип памяти КАПАНАДЗЕ)



24 sectors 1 turn ~ 300 kHz interrupt engine speed 11000-33000.

Flat spool of her rent.

Magnetic sector pour epoxy resin, not gone. For noiseless mode the hard drive from the computer with the driver, it determines the output power, the higher the frequency, the greater the current. Drive can be managed programmatically advance Nasal speed parameters for a specific load (Memory chip Kapanadze)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13937 on: September 15, 2012, 06:48:23 PM »
@ALL
I have been thinking about the mention of nanofrequencies or whatever you want to call it. When you send a pulse into a loop like a mobius that frrquency becomes multiplied almost to infinity because there is always a lag that creates endless overlays of the source frequency. We have all seen these in our experiments when your scope cannptlock into a stable waveform.

Again I always try to link theories with the practical physical proofs of the device we can see thus know it must fit intothose physical limitations. Now if we know the TKc blue wire has both the shield and center line shorted at the HV+ then that could apply as a pulse point to a mobius loop that has shield going one way and center line going the other way with the load being the series connection of both thus finalizing a mobius style pulsing method.

Guys again when you discuss theories it is always crucial that it points to the physicals of the TK devices otherwise anyone can say anything and expect others to make their own links.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13937 on: September 15, 2012, 06:48:23 PM »
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13938 on: September 15, 2012, 07:33:22 PM »
 I wanted to go in depth with my theory and subsequent experimenting on the Old Tesla patents.


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-381,970-electrical-distribution


 That is a special transformer Tesla designed. If you read the text further down in the descriptions you will find this comment:


"The combination, with a core closed upon itself, inducing or primary coils wound thereon and connected up in independent pairs or sets, and induced or secondary coils wound upon or near the primary coils, of a generator of alternating currents and independent connections to the primary coils, whereby by the operation of the generator a progressive shifting of the poles of the core is effected, as set forth."

 The part where it says "and induced or secondary coils wound upon or NEAR the primary coils"

 The Generator designed by Tesla in the previously shown patent has the Secondary(Rotor) of the transformer wound near the primary. This is the premise I am running with in implementing the patent the way it should have been. Instead our current generators were bastardized and modified to suck as much current as possible. My take on this is if you have a commodity you want to design inefficiency in the units to make the commodity more valuable and increase your income from that commodity.

 In reality if we read Tesla's notes on this form of electricity you will find that it doesn't induce anything but actually is excited by the electric field. If there is a magnetic field it would only work against the generation part of this dynamic transformer. Indeed if this form of energy is static then we must apply rotational momentum to get it to supply current.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13940 on: September 16, 2012, 12:09:16 AM »
@all

I forgot to mention something about the coax. You should be able to find good coax cables made  for microphones and electric guitars that have very generous top quality shielding with a nice stranded center line to augment skin effect.

If I remember correctly there is a brand name like Canare that you can find on ebay with original blue or orange colors.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13941 on: September 16, 2012, 12:10:25 AM »
IN 900 W OUT  2.3 KW FREE ENERGY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting! Loop it back and make a self-runner! 8)

Let's hope for a moment the measurements are true then what could be the physical basis for this?

Take a look at the image below (courtesy wikipedia) showing the coil of an induction cooker and then take a look at this patent stating:

»5. A cooker heating system according to claim 1, wherein the bundled conductor is made of several of the single conductors twisted to form a litz.«

and

»6. A cooker heating system according to claim 5, the bundled conductor being a litz consisting of five to nine strands, each strand including five to nine single conductors insulated electrically against each other.«

Then take a look at the statement from my previous post and compare: »The inventive method for generating energy by means of ... two or more radiators of electromagnetic waves operating synchronously into one load.«

What does this imply? Are the »five to nine strands, each strand including five to nine single conductors« which the induction coil consists of the »two or more radiators of electromagnetic waves«? And if so, then the cooking vessel or the pick-up coil is the »one load«?

Now the question: What could this have to do with the Kapanadze 2004 setup?

 ??? :)

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13942 on: September 16, 2012, 02:46:30 AM »
Itsu, watsup:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-244.html#post208715

 http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/ - Dally blog web page for those who are interested.
 
 "Ну и теперь по теме , то есть по установке:
 Ð’ установке два генератора , один генератор раскачивает преобразователь на ферритовом трансформаторе для питания генератора наносекундных импульсов и соответственно для подачи напряжения на катушку, далее катушка: состоит из кластикового каркаса и содержит 3 обмотки, одна обмотка - провод приблизительно 0,25- 0,3мм (точно скажу только когда разберу ее с точными замерами, когда-то мотал мини Теслу, потом она обрастала дополнительными обмотками в ходе экспериментов ). Далее поверх нее обмотка проводом 0,65мм (назовем ее резонансная , она подключена только на конденсаторы 1,5мкф Ñ… 400в). Далее обмотка коаксиалом 50ом( ранее применялся в компьютерных сетях) получается бифиляр - конец обмотки закорочен - нагружен на генератор наносекундных импульсов.
 ÐÑƒ и сверху намотана обмотка для съема.
 
 ÐžÐ±Ð¼Ð¾Ñ‚ка съема нагружена на диодный мост, после диодного моста стоят конденсаторы (Обязательно не полярные! Полярные не выдерживают и прошивают или за несколько секунд надуваются!)
 ÐŸÐ¾ÑÐ»Ðµ выпрямителя я нагрузил лампой 20 Ð’Ñ‚ ну и соответственно блок питания для самозапитки.
 ÐÐ¾ еще, у меня блок питания заработал только из четырех один, причем старый АТ. Один не заработал вообще, два быстро вышли из строя.
 
 Ð”иодный мост между конденсаторами и катушкой обязателен! Без него нет стабильности работы! Если кто то будет меня учить схемотехнике - я знаю, что в блоке питания стоит свой диодный мост, но так работает намного лучше."
 
 Here is translation

 "And now about circuit:
 The device has two generators. One generator excites inverter for powering up second generator of nanosecond pulses and powers up main coil. Next - the coils. The coils is winded on plastic core material and contain 3 windings:
 First with wire about 0,25-0,3mm (will say exact measurements when I will unwind coils. It is ex-Tesla coil with additional windings added in later experiments). Next coil is on top of first is resonant coil with wire diameter 0,65mm (will call it resonant coil because it has connected only capacitor with capacity 1,5 micro farrads x 400V). Next coil is 50 Ohm coaxial cable (earler it was used as computers network cable) - it becomes bifilar because one end is shorted and second end is connected into generator of nanosecond pulses.  And the last coil on top is secondary for load.
 
 The secondary coil is loaded to diode bridge and after diod bridge there are capacitors (must be unipolar! polar are not lasting long and get broken over few seconds!)
 After diode bridge I did connected load of 20W and computer ATX power supply for self running circuit.
 But additionally, only one from 4 power supply started to work and it was old AT PS. One did not worked at all and 3 blew up.
 
 The diode bridge between capacitors and secondary coil is a must! Without it there is no stability in working circuit! If somoeone would try to teach me about circuits - I already know about diodes bridge in power suply but wit additional diode bridge it works better."

Good luck!

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13943 on: September 16, 2012, 07:50:01 AM »
Hi Antanas,
 
May we have a little more info on the grin box ?
 
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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13944 on: September 16, 2012, 08:01:03 AM »
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Coil Data:

About Coax. Coax is an original 50 om impedance, old Computer Local Area Network LAN coax. I give a specification for 50 Om RG58, coz it have the same impedance of 50 om, but i am sure you can use 75 om coax from TV sets for the first time experiments.

About 1st coil. The first coil was wounded long time ago and originally was a secundar of Dally's Tesla Coil experiment. Wire is according to him 0,25mm - 0.3mm magnet wire. I think you can use a smaller diameter than 0.25mm. Second coil or resonance coil is 0.65mm. Also i think you can use 0.6 mm as you have done.

And last 4th coil is from special avionic wire. The lenght is shorten coz Dally haven't got a wire for a full winding lenght so he have extended this wire with ordinary electric PVC wire. He was trimmed the lenght and he don't know exactly lenght of load coil. It's between 70-80 turns. This need to be checked but you can make here more turns till the end of plastic PVC water pipe. Put a more windings and later when trimming you always can cut remain of wire. This coils need to be very well isolated coz under this coil is HV coax bifilar coil. Use PTFE for isolation in several layers between coax and this coil. Later when you pump more HV pulses in Coax, isolation need to undergo more than 10kV HV peak nano pulses.  I think you don't need to keep exactly 1:1 specifications, coz this is research project and you always need "FREE SPACE" for your moves. Once when the principle was known and understood to you, you can make evertyhing you want !!


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How about that toroid? is that a standard component from something? 


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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13945 on: September 16, 2012, 11:08:38 AM »
May we have a little more info on the grin box ?
The difference between "grin box" and "green box" is illustrated below.

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13947 on: September 16, 2012, 12:22:29 PM »


 In reality if we read Tesla's notes on this form of electricity you will find that it doesn't induce anything but actually is excited by the electric field. If there is a magnetic field it would only work against the generation part of this dynamic transformer. Indeed if this form of energy is static then we must apply rotational momentum to get it to supply current.

@jbignes5
You are looking at TK from the right angle IMHO.
A STRONG indicator that TK is not interested in a strong magnetic field in the core was pointed out by me a year ago here : http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg299695/#msg299695

In the aquarium device V1 he uses a brass core in his "somehow"-filar coil. Brass is commonly non-magnetic .
It even reduces the inductance @ high frequencies.
His transformers are likely to work on an electric field basis somehow as you are pointing out.
Chances are that there is no transformation going on at all between the 2 coils.
The so-called TK coil could just be a current amplifier which is exactly the effect a coil with a NEGATIVE inductance would have.
The brass core together with the CORRECT winding technique could theoretically achieve that and maybe TK has put it into action.
The "primary" coil-cap oriented upwards would just have the task to create a surrounding electric background field to enforce the right flow of positively charged to negatively charged "charge carriers".
Keep it up.

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« Reply #13948 on: September 16, 2012, 02:28:56 PM »
Itsu, watsup:

 Here is translation

 "And now about circuit:


Thanks a lot for this info T-1000, so it means that even the creator of this device is not sure about the used wires of his coil.

Well, i finished my main coil and did some measurements/testing, including HV puls testing on the coax.
Here is the data on MY coil:

Cardboard former 5cm od

L1 690t, 0.4mm, 3.3mH, 14.5 Ohm, selfresonant (so no cap) on 2.4Mhz   (magnet wire)
L2 380t, 0.6mm, 1.5mH,  0.5 Ohm, resonance with 600nF cap on 5.071Khz (magnet wire)
L3  41t, 75 Ohm coax (tv) foam pe isolation, velocity 78%, 1 end shorted
L4  64t, stranded HV, 72uH, 0.8 Ohm, selfresonant (so no cap) on 4.8Mhz (Belden 24Kv HV cable)

Video of the testing here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utkIltw6WrU&feature=youtu.be

Great questions from d3x0r: "How about that toroid? is that a standard component from something?"

I also am looking for data on that toroid, like diameter, type/make, number of windings (4?), number of turns, wire used etc.

Anyway, parts are on order for the Main generator and for the pulser, it will take a while for them to arrive.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
« Reply #13949 on: September 16, 2012, 03:31:55 PM »
@jbignes5
You are looking at TK from the right angle IMHO.
A STRONG indicator that TK is not interested in a strong magnetic field in the core was pointed out by me a year ago here : http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg299695/#msg299695

In the aquarium device V1 he uses a brass core in his "somehow"-filar coil. Brass is commonly non-magnetic .
It even reduces the inductance @ high frequencies.
His transformers are likely to work on an electric field basis somehow as you are pointing out.
Chances are that there is no transformation going on at all between the 2 coils.
The so-called TK coil could just be a current amplifier which is exactly the effect a coil with a NEGATIVE inductance would have.
The brass core together with the CORRECT winding technique could theoretically achieve that and maybe TK has put it into action.
The "primary" coil-cap oriented upwards would just have the task to create a surrounding electric background field to enforce the right flow of positively charged to negatively charged "charge carriers".
Keep it up.


 Yeah I have to agree that his coils do not have a core of anything that reats to magnetic fields. If you look at most of the videos you will see brass as a rigid metallic core. I'm thinking he wants metallic core because of the electric field and not magnetic. In the electric field two metals show incredible effects. Aluminum is very explosive and tends to amplify the electric portion and copper gets so agitated that it will melt if the stimulated charges do not get taken off. This agitation can be likened to AC. This has never been so prominent in experiments except for the Slayer Exciter. I have seen ranges of 20-25 feet away from the exciter that leds will light up brightly with the proper diode half bridge Commonly called an Avramenko plug attached to each led leg.


 As to weather there is a positive charge or negative that remains to be seen. In my honest opinion there is only one charge. There is a balance point that makes it positive or negative when compared to the background charge levels. So lets say a charge has a balanced charge that equals the background. This would make the charge neutral. But add charge to the charge and it becomes positive. Take away charge and it becomes negative but it is always positive charge. It just appears to be negative when compared to the background. You could think of it like the surface of water. Scoop out some water and it has a divit for a split second then balances to the main body. Drip some water in and it has a bulge for a split second but again balances out to the background surface. But it is always water. That is not the best analogy but it is the closest I can think of.


 What I really think TK is doing is only using the thick copper as a radiator of the electric field. The gap is only there to allow a build up of this electric field before it discharges and allows the field to flow around the heavy copper coil. Just like in many other experiments with extremely high voltages corona discharges illuminate the paths of this electric field and we get to see the pathways of that electric field. These fields are always present even if we can not see them through that illumination of the higher voltages. The spark we see is actually charges accelerated along the pathway to light speeds. This causes the illumination. This accelerating does not stop at light speeds either because if light is to know where to travel something must have made a connection way before light moves or in this case charges. I hope that is understandable.
 The premise behind TK's device is to stimulate the drive coil into agitation by the use of the electric field that surrounds the drive coil. When the drive coil is agitated it acts very much like AC. The high part of the agitation being the high part of the AC signal and the Bemf being the lower half of the AC signal. Half of the AC wave form is supplied by the Bemf. I bet if someone was to scope the device it would show a sudo ac wave(deformed). Of course light bulbs don't show wave forms and pretty much will work with and deformation of the AC signal.

 

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